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Re: sliding table saw: parallel fence vs 2nd crosscut fence?

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Colum All Messages By This Member #138136 开云体育 Hi All, Was reading this and reflecting on an issue i am having with the outrigger fence. I have now checked 4 different fence extrusions from Felder, having access to their showroom and Maintenace team, and have struggled to get one that is straight. The most recent one has a .2-.3mm bow, at best. A question to the group, how can one get consistent square cuts for fine furniture production, I?make a lot of boxes of various lengths and need the saw to produce square cuts rather than having to take shavings with a shoulder plane.? Currently i am getting 0.03 over 250mm on a setup usings Davids method with a 400x250 precision square but then when i go to 600/900, it varies significantly. Any ideas would be appreciated.? On the short cross cut, i have now completely moved away and use either the parallel rip fence or F&F set-ups. Thanks Colum toggle quoted message Show quoted text From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> Sent:?Friday, November 15, 2024 10:39 AM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:?Re: [FOG] sliding table saw: parallel fence vs 2nd crosscut fence? #k700s ? Consider yourself on of the lucky ones. ?Some people, like yourself, have a short crosscut fence setup that will come off and go back on and register square to the travel of the sliding table. ?However, the majority of users do not experience this. ?Typical variations are ±2°. Why some and not others? ?I have no idea. ?What I do know is that Felder corporate say the short crosscut fence setup works well and consistently registers to 90° properly. ?At least two Felder showrooms in the USA have been unable to get the standard setup to register consistently, and actually installed my upgrade kit to resolve the issues. ? In terms of short fence use, I almost always use the shortcut crosscut ?fence on the shaper for counter-profiling operations, and rarely use it on the saw where I prefer the outrigger fence or an EGL. You din’t say how you were checking alignment with your “8-inch engineers square”, but?demonstrates the quickest and most accurate method. ?My preference for this is a square that is at least 300mm on a side. ?There have been numerous posts before (and in the message archive) about various squares that are suitable for this type of alignment. ?I mention two squares that I consider ideal in my list of recommended tools for self-commissioning Felder machines which you can find at. David Best DBestWorkshop@... https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/ https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best On Nov 14, 2024, at 8:53?PM, Bryce Comer via groups.io <bryce@...> wrote: Ok, i have to ask; What kind of tolerences are you expecting to achieve with the short crosscut fence? I have been using one on a fairly regular basis for particular jobs on the saw and spindle moulder/shaper for years and never had an issue with the accuracy. I have to make sure when i attach the fence that i snug the kip lever in the channel up to almost tight before pulling the fence hard against the pivoting stop while tightening that kip lever, then go back and do a final tighten on the first kip lever. One thing for sure is that it is a bit of a pain to attach, having to run it down the P channel to install it. After seeing this post a week or so ago, i wondered if i was not paying enough attention to its accuracy so actually went and put it on, took it off, and did that multiple times to check for square. Every time it was spot on. Now, i am only checking with an 8" engineers square, but every time it was perfectly square checking with that. I'm curious as to what accuracy folks here are aiming for, and how you measure it. Obviously anything less than perfectly square will be more noticeable the longer the cut being made, but surely you would then be using the outrigger if making cuts of that length. I do mostly use the outrigger on my machine, but find the short fence very helpful in certain circumstances. Maybe i am just not pushing its limits whenever i employ it? I would like to know what kind of inaccuracy people get with it, and how they measure it. I dunno, maybe i need to go buy myself a blue and white striped apron. :) Regards, Bryce -- https://www.brycecomerwoodworks.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdrRaAZd_pOa7wwbdNPUEw

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