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Re: Selecting a dust collector
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi to a fellow engineer ? ? My saw has the riving knife hood which I heavily modified to increase airflow but it still doesn¡¯t get all the dust, especially if cutting a small amount off so the teeth are not fully buried in the wood.? I suspect the overarm guard would help as you can get more airflow.? I have a 6¡± duct to the saw which splits off to a 4¡± hard duct over the saw which connects to a 3¡± flex hose connected to my modified dust shroud.? The overhead duct branches off to a 5¡± duct to the saw which connects to the 120mm port on the side of the machine. ? I strongly recommend the Oneida Smart collectors but I am biased as this innovation was my idea and I worked with the founder of Oneida to commercialize it. ?I just shared the idea at a woodworking show and we communicated back and forth for about a year.? I don¡¯t have any financial interest in it but they did upgrade my system with a new fan motor and control system. ? Basically the more air a fan moves the higher the load on the motor.? Run a collector with no pipe and most motors will overheat in less than a minute.? When the inlet is clogged the motor spins faster and the sound pitch rises but the motor current is at it¡¯s lowest.? The idea was to use a VFD to automatically adjust the motor rpm to keep the current at like 95% of full load rated amps.? There is a max speed cap to keep the fan rpm under max rated current.? So when my collector which has a 7¡± inlet is connected to my wide belt sander with 7¡± duct it runs at 60hz and rated rpm.? When connected to a machine with a small actual machine port at the cutting location it speeds up until I hit 95% of FLA.? This resulted in about 2X more cfm on all machines with small ports. ? The first free step is to modify any machine you can to maximize the passage air flows through. ? Biil Pentz¡¯s stuff is accurate but sadly most people take too simple of conclusions away.? Bill started with 4¡± duct and found that cfm was much higher if you use 6¡±? So now people thing you should run 8¡± or larger mains and 6¡± drops to machines with tiny air passages.? The reality is that you need to maximize the port.? Then use Bill¡¯s spreadsheet to estimate the pressure you will have at that port, and then optimize the duct run to keep velocity over 3500 ft per min.? I¡¯ve used Bill¡¯ sheet to model my last shop and measured at every machine and his model is really good. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of sjglaser1
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FOG] Selecting a dust collector ? Hi Joe, ? I am new to the forum and so appreciate the technical input. I am a severe asthmatic and? good/great? dust collection?is? of?paramount importance to me.? Also my wife hates the dust if it migrates from the shop to the house. ? Regarding your Felder KF700SP, does your 5 HP Oneida variable speed collector capture all the dust/fine particles from your Overarm and cabinet? ? I have a Felder K700S ordered with an ETA of April, 24 and had the same concern regarding the cabinet restriction? ~4" section.?? I may sell my 3 hp Laguna HEPA DC and upgrade to the Oneida. ? Any other recommendations? ? (I don't tell folks this but I too am a mechanical engineer- retired with? a PE license?in Alaska. Many engineers give us a bad?rep because some can behave like they know it all!? As you know the PE just means we "know stuff" and I learned long ago that you never know it all. Good engineers continually learn and help others to grow.) ? I value your input thanks. ? ? ? On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:33?AM Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
Modifying a Felder blade guard to improve dust collection.docx
Modifying a Felder blade guard to improve dust collection.docx
dust collection.docx
dust collection.docx
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