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Re: Shaper cutters to replace router bits #shapertools

 

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Brandon,

I would never give up my router table even though I have a Profil 45 shaper. ?For simple operations, the router table is far quicker to set up. ?However, part of its simplicity is that it¡¯s not part of the shaper. ?A router spindle for the shaper sounds on par with a shaper cutter in terms of setup time and fussing around. I do like the convenience of having the router table set up for edge-easing, leaving the shaper set up for more complex profile operations.

That said, if you wanted a round-over cutter for the shaper, Whitehill makes an indexable stepped cutter with 2-6mm radii, but check the cavity depth of your shaper to ensure this cutter will fully lower into the spindle hole:



I have a Freud Industrial round-over indexable shaper cutter that I just love. ?According to the Freud Industrial catalog it is still available. ?You can download their catalog here: ?

The cutter I have is the TP31M - it will cut 8-17.5mm radius concave or convex profiles for edging work. ?It¡¯s a 160mm diameter cutter with a 35mm arbor hole that I have a dedicated top-hat bushing pair to shim it down to 30mm. ?The inserts are HSS and easily sharpened, duplicated or made into other radii at a good sharpening shop.

Here are some photos:

Freud Rounding Cutter - 1.jpeg

Freud Rounding Cutter - 2.jpeg

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On May 20, 2023, at 3:45 PM, Brandon Nickel <brandon.nickel@...> wrote:

Ok, time to tap the group knowledge. I've got a Felder KF700, 1.25" spindle that I acquired but haven't used the shaper yet.

I recently attended Alpine Workshop with a few great new friends. It was a great learning experience, but somehow I never got around to asking the following question, so here it goes:

I would like to use the shaper to replace my existing router table, mostly to regain that floor space. I could spend $1k to buy the high speed router spindle, but that seems pretty drastic, especially given the disadvantages of bits vs cutters.?

If you had to choose between spending $1k on a high speed spindle or putting that money towards cutters that do similar jobs, what would you choose? Most of my router bits are pretty standard round overs and beads. My shaper came with cope and stick, panel-raising, and chamfer cutters, so I have already "replaced" those.

Looking at Amana's carbide-tipped cutters, I could buy their whole line of round overs and rub collars for under $1k. Or would insert cutters be better? If so, which head and cutters do you recommend?

I got to use the asking Rangate products at Alpine Workshop, but I'm not sure that $2k for their multi purpose cutter is the most cost effective choice for a hobbyist workshop. But, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,
Brandon

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