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Re: sandpaper test


alain pilon
 

I think you are overthinking it.?

You are listing a bunch of variables without knowing if they actually have an impact or not on the end result. For example, you?cite using variable pressure. Unless one of the papers behaves completely differently when the pressure changes during sanding (which I doubt), this variable would be irrelevant since the controlled experiment?would?use the same pressure variation for all of them. The stock removal would change from the constant pressure vs variable pressure tests, but only in absolute values, not relative. Testing without dust extraction is useless since it would?not represent real life usage.?

Regarding pricing, you can easily get the data and put your own price and see how it changes the results.?

My point is, even if the experience isn't?perfect in the sense that it represents a best case?scenario, it has one of the most important criteria for experimentation: it is reproducible. So anyone (with a robot) can replicate it with its own set of parameters and create a new set of results to add to the knowledge base.

Just like Patrick Sullivan research on glue (), I think this kind of work is improving the craft by transforming guesses into facts.?




On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 10:38 AM marty shultz <azmartys@...> wrote:
Having spent some of my career designing and running experiments I can see flaws in his experimental process. I thought about running my own test.? I'd like to see additional factors like: Grain (open vs closed grain),? Hardness, With/without vacuum extraction, Force (heavy vs light), and say 5 additional professional sandpaper types. I'd like to measure how the paper does when sanding glue joints.? Does it clog up fast???

To run a 1/4 fraction factorial experiment with five factors and four randomized replicates would take 32 trials.? But that only tests two different sandpaper types and would take 16 hours of? sanding time.??I would spend more time testing than I'd spend sanding all my projects in a year.? ??

While imperfect, the robot likely applies constant force which would be a big factor in stock removal.? Maintaining constant pressure is something I would have difficulty doing in my shop.? ?

I read a lot of reviews after I posted the link and some people are having problems keeping the sandpaper on the sander.? They complain that the look and loop isn't satisfactory.? It may require a new backer pad.? I'm going to try Xtract a try and see how it works for me. I'll post my anecdotal thoughts later.?

Other people have said his prices aren't the same as they get.? The author commented that he bought 50 packs and used the price on his receipt.? Maybe he didn't shop for the best prices like us penny pinchers do :)??

Cheers,

Marty

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