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Re: Used KF700 year 200 price check


 

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Patrick,

Thanks for clarification. I am familiar with that routine but you had written ¡°Having to take off the outrigger?for a 81" rip is beyond annoying¡± which is indeed a bigger deal than removing xcut fence.

I actually think removing xcut fence on my KF is really easy (2 kip levers) but the key is to have a place nearby to stow it, while off of machine.

Imran?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote:

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Yes, that is correct. If your offcut rip is greater than 1/4-1/2" then it will hit the crosscut fence and prohibit you from continuing the rip. One, a longer sliding table would allow you to rip off the table, which is safer and with better results. Two, even if you want to rip conventionally on the rip fence, you cant do it with the crosscut fence in place. Inconvenient, less safe, and generally, not ideal.?

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 9:53 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Patrick,

¡°?Having to take off the outrigger for a 81" rip is beyond annoying¡±

I don¡¯t have outrigger on my KF but do on K975. By above, did you mean removing xcut fence from the outrigger for doing long rips using the rip fence?

Imran

On Mar 5, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Patrick Kane <pwk5017@...> wrote:

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I have a 2005 KF700 with an 80" slide, and i would encourage you to wait for an 8'+ table IF this is your sole table saw. I didnt mind the shorter sliding table as much when i had a cabinet saw, but it's?a shortcoming as my only saw now. Having to take off the outrigger for a 81" rip is beyond annoying.?

Patrick

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 9:33 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Stephen,

I have a 2002 KF700, 3KW, 3ph with 78 or 80¡± slider. It is a well made machine and if no rust should clean to near new as the finish is really good.

What do you mean by missing a few accessory items? Does it have an outrigger?

I can still get parts for my machine, so imagine you can as well for 2000. Go to felder eshop for a general lookup but a call to felder is best. If you can get the S/N they will provide you with repair history if any was done. You should confirm availability of any specific parts/accessories that you know you will be getting.

I am pretty sure you can still get shaper spindles so if your tooling is 1.25¡± or 30mm you should be able to reuse it. There are other spindle sizes as well including a router spindle. I assume your machine is compatible with a router spindle but a modification may be needed to use small dia router bits though.

Price actually seems really good to me for dirty but otherwise functional machine. If you have any specific questions please ask.

There is a 2005 KF700 SP, single phase 5HP with a 9¡¯ slider, power feeder and many accessories in MI but I believe asking price is more than triple. If interested let me know.

Imran

On Mar 5, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Stephen Zielke <tseelkah@...> wrote:

?Hello - I've been reading a few posts and topics to research the ins and outs of used Felder machinery (I own all kinds of brands, almost always used, incl. a Hammer A31, Minimax, Rojek and Powermatic). I've found a locally available used KF700, year 2000. I would call it's condition "fair" - it's been sitting for 2 years unused, and is on it's 3rd owner. Covered in dust inside and out. It would be a step up to a format slider from my 1990's era Rojek KPF300, with its solid guide rail and small cast iron outrigger table and simple shaper.

Pro's - tilting and reverse shaper functions would be new to me (Rojek is vertical and forward only), format slider, both motors and power functions operate, slider rolls well, everything is nominally flat, the shaper spindle and saw arbor both run true with no wobble (like maybe 1/1000). No rust, just fair amount of scratches and dust.

Con's - missing a few accessory items, older F mount and non X-roll table era, only one spindle, no shaper parts except the basic fence, and the whopper, 3 phase 5.5 KW (7.5hp) - this last one involves $1300 to purchase a RPC since I have single phase. 40-50 amp breaker will use half my shop power. Only 80" slider, I have been searching for 98"+ for about a year (to replace the 60" Rojek, to have more sheet good processing capacity). I find several local 10' sliders? - without the shaper function - on Craigslist each month, but the 8' size seems to be a unicorn.

The $3500 seems like an almost fair price for a "needs TLC" machine, although the RPC means it's closer to $5k before selling the Rojek. That's still under half price compared to new.

Thoughts on this price, for this era of machine - just about right, or too high?

thanks.

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