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Re: Electrical Problem with CF731 Pro


 

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Hi Greg,

Thanks for the details. I do not know the internal design of selector switch so thought may be the old knob is slipping around TDC and the contacts are mid movement position therefore nothing starts. This likely is not the case since the full assembly had been replaced.

Like Brian mentioned, on/off switches can go along with the relay that turns the motors on but that was not my first thought based upon what you shared.

My thought is that you have a short in saw circuit and therefore as soon as it is selected an internal breaker is activated which resets upon power down/up.

I would disconnect saw from selector switch and see if anything changes. Look into Annu¡¯s recent posts. He shares how he was able to easily isolate all motors.

Hope this helps.

Imran?

On Jan 20, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Greg Goldin <goldinarch@...> wrote:

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Hi Imran,

I power off the main switch, then move the selector dial to the machines that do start, and then power back on.? So long as the selector remains on either J/P (or horizontal mortiser) or Shaper (forward or reverse), it starts and runs fine, and I can toggle between forward/reverse in that setting.? Second it goes through TDC/table saw, it's kaput.

And, yes, the selector came with a new knob. That was probably $695 for the knob, $5 for the selector!

What would the knob have to do with this?? By the way, changing the selector switch changed nothing.? Same fail, different switch.

Thanks!

Greg

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 6:56 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:
Greg,

How do you revive it once no machine starts?

Did the selector switch come with a new knob?

Imran

On Jan 19, 2021, at 9:45 PM, goldinarch@... wrote:

?Hello.? I've been experiencing exasperating problems with the start function on my machine. I can now probably write a book about this, but suffice to say that when the selector switch is set to Table Saw, the machine fails to start.? I've worked quite a bit with Phillip Dingus at Felder.? He's been a champion, but we've failed to figure out what is happening.? I sprung for a whopping $700 to buy a new selector switch, which I meticulously installed, terminal for terminal, wire for wire, with zero effect.? The machine will start when set to J/P and Shaper, in forward or reverse, but any time the selector passes through TDC (which is the Table Saw), no machine will subsequently start.? I am wondering if there is anyone in the group who is sufficiently wise in the ways of electrical engineering to help me through the wiring diagram to perhaps pinpoint what is going wrong.? I have also traced every single wire in the machine, and compared the "as-is" wiring to the wiring diagram furnished by Felder.? There are some anomalies, but the machine worked flawlessly as wired for 19-1/2 years, so...go figure.? Any ideas of where to turn?? Thanks!? Greg



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