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Re: Felder K975 arbor bearing


 

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The special castle nut socket/wrench and the 2 pin wrench will be the most expensive part of the job.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: "david@... via groups.io" <david@...>
Date: 2020-07-27 8:19 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder K975 arbor bearing

I¡¯ve been down this spindle bearing path before. ? At least in my experience, the bearings were pressed on with a slight interference fit. ?You could use a bearing heater to expand new bearings enough to go onto the spindle, but getting the old ones off required an arbor press. ? Yours may be different, but just be aware that it may not be as simple as pulling off the retaining collars.

David Best

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On Jul 27, 2020, at 5:14 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

There are two bearings in the 1 1/4" shaper spindle. I do not think you can use a grease gun to pump the grease into it, cause there is no zerk.

I think the top bearing can be removed after unscrewing the ring above it, the bottom bearing can be removed by removing the cap below it.

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James


On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 11:45 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
There should be two small zerks.? I was remembering shields but maybe those bearings are open on one side.? A shielded won't get much help from outside greasing.? If you don't have the zerks, the bearings for sure are shielded.? If shielded on one side only, it is sometimes easier to find ZZ and remove one rather than specify Z.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:10 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder K975 arbor bearing
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there should be a small hole with a ball. i cannot recall if there is one or two per bearing. IIRC, only one pump is recommended. cannot remember the frequency. if you give it more grease, it is not the end of the world. just bunch of cleaning as it is flung out once spinning.

imran?

On Jul 26, 2020, at 7:31 PM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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David,

This is the 1 1/4" spindle on 2017 KF700.? I have no clue how to lubricate this bearing.

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James

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:57 PM David Kumm <davekumm@...> wrote:
The shaper bearings at least are shielded, not sealed.? Sealed have a lower speed limit so shielded or open are needed when a larger, higher load bearing are needed at high speed.? That is why industrial shapers often used precision open bearings in oil.? The oil and the higher precision allowed large high load bearings to run at much higher speeds than standard grease bearings with contact seals could operate.? The lubrication system needed came at a high cost though.? There is always a compromise.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of James Zhu <james.zhu2@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 10:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Felder K975 arbor bearing
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I never did any maintenance on my KF700 and AD741 for 3+ years.?

So I bought grease and tried to lubricate the bearings, then I found out all the bearings on shaper spindle, saw and AD741 are sealed.?

Only maintenance needed is to lubricate the height adjustment spindle for the planer table, shaper and saw blade.

It is very difficult to get access to the saw height adjustment spindle, I bought the Felder spindle fluid, spray fluid on the small portion of the spindle I can see.

James

On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 8:11 AM Randy Child via <strongman_one=[email protected]> wrote:
I don't think the previous owner ever performed a single maintenance procedure on the saw..The belts were also replaced because the original belts (15 year old) were still on it and cracking, so I replaced the main belt and scoring belt. I upgraded the blade brake circuit board to the newer and better circuit board and had the digital read-out for blade height and blade angle calibrated to read correctly.? I am proud to say that the saw is now 100% restored and everything works as it should.

On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 05:03:56 AM PDT, jmkserv@... <jmkserv@...> wrote:


Looks like lack of proper lubrication over time did them in. At least with the new setup you won't have to worry about maintenance. Like Mac stated earlier about sealed bearings, expected life span of at least 10 years with normal use.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: "Randy Child via " <strongman_one=[email protected]>
Date: 2020-07-25 7:38 a.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FOG] Felder K975 arbor bearing

The main blade arbor bearings went out on my K975 and had a new, improved version put in by the Felder tech Jason.? The bearings on the new arbor shaft are a lot beefier and sealed, unlike the bearings on the original shaft, which were not sealed.? The bearing really got burned up as you can see from the pictures.? It didn't take long really to get the old arbor out, maybe 30 minutes.? The new arbor and how it's designed will allow me to swap out the bearings much easier than the old style and I won't need a tech to do it either, that's the beauty of the new design.? I forgot to take pictures of the new arbor, but will ask Felder to send me a few







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