Hey Marty,
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On Fri, 2023-09-22 at 00:26 +0000, Marty Burke via groups.io wrote: Thanks Linc This is a reprint of the article from Old Cars. Has a couple more in depth photos
On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 7:15 PM, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
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On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 7:15 PM, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
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Great video of Kingsport! ?Love the trash can rolling by ?! ? Christine Thomas 515-321-5775
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On Sep 8, 2023, at 3:48 PM, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote:
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Someone at the show remarked to me how
the trash can sounded like one of our big engines, so I told this
to the maintenance guy and asked him to roll it past me.? You can
see from the expression on his face at the end that he enjoyed the
joke, too.
Tony
On 9/8/2023 4:25 PM, Linc wrote:
The rolling trash can coming into frame was fantastic..
?sounded like a rumbly car and
then wasn't ! ?Most excellent !
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On Fri, 2023-09-08 at 12:10 -0400, Tony Avak wrote:
YouTube videos are posted to
Facebook all the time but since I don't use Facebook myself I
can't tell you how to do it.? Maybe someone else in our group
can help?
Tony
On 9/8/2023 11:57 AM, Marty Burke
via groups.io wrote:
Tony
That is awesome! Do you know if we can post this on the
Facebook site? Those non members need to see what they are
missing?
Incredible video, thanks for all the hardwork!
Marty
On Friday,
September 8, 2023, 10:18 AM, Tony Avak <avakar@...>
wrote:
Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I
made from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our
overall show:
Here is a video just about our visit to
Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren,
Marty and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
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1968 Ford Fairlane?
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Someone at the show remarked to me how
the trash can sounded like one of our big engines, so I told this
to the maintenance guy and asked him to roll it past me.? You can
see from the expression on his face at the end that he enjoyed the
joke, too.
Tony
On 9/8/2023 4:25 PM, Linc wrote:
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The rolling trash can coming into frame was fantastic..
?sounded like a rumbly car and
then wasn't ! ?Most excellent !
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On Fri, 2023-09-08 at 12:10 -0400, Tony Avak wrote:
YouTube videos are posted to
Facebook all the time but since I don't use Facebook myself I
can't tell you how to do it.? Maybe someone else in our group
can help?
Tony
On 9/8/2023 11:57 AM, Marty Burke
via groups.io wrote:
Tony
That is awesome! Do you know if we can post this on the
Facebook site? Those non members need to see what they are
missing?
Incredible video, thanks for all the hardwork!
Marty
On Friday,
September 8, 2023, 10:18 AM, Tony Avak <avakar@...>
wrote:
Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I
made from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our
overall show:
Here is a video just about our visit to
Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren,
Marty and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
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On Fri, 2023-09-08 at 12:10 -0400, Tony Avak wrote: YouTube videos are posted to Facebook all the time but since I don't use Facebook myself I can't tell you how to do it.? Maybe someone else in our group can help? Tony
On 9/8/2023 11:57 AM, Marty Burke via groups.io wrote:
Tony That is awesome! Do you know if we can post this on the Facebook site? Those non members need to see what they are missing? Incredible video, thanks for all the hardwork! Marty
On Friday, September 8, 2023, 10:18 AM, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote: Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I made from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our overall show:
Here is a video just about our visit to Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren, Marty and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
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YouTube videos are posted to Facebook
all the time but since I don't use Facebook myself I can't tell
you how to do it.? Maybe someone else in our group can help?
Tony
On 9/8/2023 11:57 AM, Marty Burke via
groups.io wrote:
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Tony
That is awesome! Do you know if we can post this on the
Facebook site? Those non members need to see what they are
missing?
Incredible video, thanks for all the hardwork!
Marty
On Friday,
September 8, 2023, 10:18 AM, Tony Avak
<avakar@...> wrote:
Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I made
from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our overall
show:
Here is a video just about our visit to
Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren, Marty
and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
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Tony That is awesome! Do you know if we can post this on the Facebook site? Those non members need to see what they are missing? Incredible video, thanks for all the hardwork!
On Friday, September 8, 2023, 10:18 AM, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote: Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I made from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our overall show:
Here is a video just about our visit to Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren, Marty and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
|
Yesterday Jim Reese uploaded the videos I made from our national meet in
Kingsport TN.? Here is my video of our overall show:
Here is a video just about our visit to Bristol:
And here is the video I made of Warren, Marty and Doug reviewing the new
reproduction dash pad for our '68-'69 cars:
Enjoy,
Tony
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
The actual Kioti part number is T4682-43313, and two different dealers have said it's no longer available, even in Korea. Apparently, there are 3 different versions, because Kioti was having warranty issues with it. The second version had an arm coming off
the cover on top, instead of a flat plate, and the third version, I guess, looks completely different. I found a place called All States Ag Parts that says they have a reproduction, but they don't show a picture, you have to call them to talk about it, and
it's a holiday weekend. It's my first task for tomorrow.
Steve
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Excuse me I see the part no. After I read your post again.
Thanks, Linc! It's a 2006 Kioti DK45S, and the part is the bevel gear case, part 16 on the attached manual page.
Steve?
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What kind of tractor and what parts do you need.? PIctures might help.? There are two large
used tractor places near me.
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On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 14:28 +0000, Steve W wrote:
David,
? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying
to find used somewhere.
Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in"
and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed,
I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
Excuse me I see the part no. After I read your post again.
Thanks, Linc! It's a 2006 Kioti DK45S, and the part is the bevel gear case, part 16 on the attached manual page.
Steve?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Get
What kind of tractor and what parts do you need.? PIctures might help.? There are two large
used tractor places near me.
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On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 14:28 +0000, Steve W wrote:
David,
? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying
to find used somewhere.
Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in"
and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed,
I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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My son and I have the same tractor. Ours is a 2007. We have several dealers in our area, I could check with them if you have the part no. We love the tractor. Our only major repair has been replacing the plastic fuel tank. .Jay?
Thanks, Linc! It's a 2006 Kioti DK45S, and the part is the bevel gear case, part 16 on the attached manual page.
Steve?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Get
What kind of tractor and what parts do you need.? PIctures might help.? There are two large
used tractor places near me.
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On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 14:28 +0000, Steve W wrote:
David,
? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying
to find used somewhere.
Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in"
and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed,
I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W < fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
Thanks, Linc! It's a 2006 Kioti DK45S, and the part is the bevel gear case, part 16 on the attached manual page.
Steve?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
Get
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What kind of tractor and what parts do you need. ?PIctures might help. ?There are two large
used tractor places near me.
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On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 14:28 +0000, Steve W wrote:
David,
? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying
to find used somewhere.
Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in"
and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed,
I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
What kind of tractor and what parts do you need. ?PIctures might help. ?There are two large used tractor places near me. --
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On Sun, 2023-09-03 at 14:28 +0000, Steve W wrote: David, ? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying to find used somewhere.
Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in" and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed, I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
David, ? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side. ? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
David,
? It was $600 for both sides, $300 per side. I'll send pics as I get further, but it got temporarily moved to the back burner. I broke the front end on my tractor, and even though it's only 17 years old, the dealer doesn't stock parts anymore, so I'm trying
to find used somewhere.
Steve
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Show quoted text
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in"
and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed,
I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
Steve,
Thank you for the update and pics. I too was thinking the same as you were and expecting a "drop-in" replacement, not a "some assembly required" sub structures/pieces puzzle prior to "dropping-in". And yes I know most replacement panels aren't 100% "drop-in" and are likely going to need fitment which can include cutting/grinding as needed before welding in place.
Was that $600 total for both sides or was it $600 each side? IF $600 total, that isn't to bad, not great but not all that bad either. I wasn't really too sure what to expect on price, and now to find out "some pre-assembly assembly required" is still needed, I don't know, maybe a touch/bit high. But as you said, you need these to return structural integrity back to the chassis.
Please keep sending us pics of the "some assembly required" in process and then as you progress to and including the final installation stages.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:52:22 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
David, ? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side. ? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
I have outer rocker that are the same, you have to make the ends work. ?If anyone ever wants them I will not be using them.? --
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On Mon, 2023-08-28 at 14:52 +0000, Steve W wrote: David, ? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side. ? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
David,
? I got the parts back, and it wasn't quite what I expected. I thought I would get "reproductions" but it turned out they are functional copies. They were also a little more expensive than I thought, at $600 for both sides, and as you can see, some assembly
required. I'll also need to trim the lower front of the front box piece so it will contour to the firewall. I'm ok with it for my use, as these parts aren't available anywhere and I just want to get the car structurally sound and back on the road. I haven't
done a test fit yet because I still need to do some cleanup and repair, but they seem to measure out ok.
Steve
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I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body
styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally
that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it
was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural
adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
I currently to my knowledge don't need any. BUT would be interested in "in progress" and "final pics", price as well as what years these theoretically would/should/could fit (I am guessing at least '68 & '69 for fit/use) as well as other possible body styles/types other than the convertible these MIGHT be able to be fitted to with maybe some mods/tweeks. It is one of those things that IF price is right and have the spare funds it wouldn't hurt to have spares on hand for one of those just incase times.
David from WNY.
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 01:56:37 AM EDT, Steve W <fords65273@...> wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side. ? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?
Steve
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Re: Mustang brake upgrade
Yeah, I know. I've never had issues with them either. Just know some don't like them. I just had to do something to fix the problem. They were cheaper and easier to use than going with longer studs.?
Will Denver, CO
On Aug 21, 2023 2:58 PM, jay Rush <jrush69gt@...> wrote: We are not doing a booster at this point.
Will, Nothing wrong with spacers when done right. I had to use spacers on my '68 Torino because the new NON-concourse control arm ball joint domes burried themselves into the tire sidewall preventing wheel spin. Wheel spacers and longer wheel studs fixed that problem. I have been running the spacers for years with no problems.
Jay, A word of WARNING. IF your friend chooses to install a factory booster setup, they MUST also make sure they get the matching booster bracket and linkage. A Midland Booster MUST have the MATCHING Midland specific mounting brackets and linkage. A Bendix Booster MUST have the MATCHING Bendix specific mounting brackets and linkage. The bolt pattern spacing is different between the Midland and Bendix boosters by about an inch. The advantage of getting the Bendix booster is (at least the last time I checked) it is available over the counter at local auto parts stores (they may need to order it in) without a core (though a core charge might be required). Where as the Midland booster MUST be sent out to be rebuilt and a core IS required.
This said, I DON'T know IF the Booster Brackets and linkage are interchangeable between Fairlanes/Torinos and Mustangs/Cougars OR full size cars for that matter.
David from WNY
On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 11:54:41 AM EDT, Will < wl1968@...> wrote:
These ones came with no centers, got them from Summit Racing. Bought the red Ford crest centers from Autokrafters. I think they use 2 tabs that tighten with a nut. When I'd tighten the lug nuts, the centers would get knocked off. Couldn't change the dust cap because of the end of the spindle. Had no choice but to use spacers.?
Will? Denver, CO On Aug 21, 2023 9:19 AM, Linc < linc@...> wrote: Interesting, all my Magnum 500's have bolt in centers.? Have not run those in many years.? --
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On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 09:00 -0600, Will wrote: Yeah, it helped I was working at NAPA at the time too. Saved money with my discount. I did have a minor issue with my wheels. I'm running magnum 500's and the dust cap would knock off the center cap. I ended up using spacers for clearance. I know, not the best option, but it helped fix the problem.?
Will Denver, CO On Aug 21, 2023 8:41 AM, Linc < linc@...> wrote: Hey Will,
That is a great option, and Rock Auto will have ll the parts new.? I found a Granada in the pick a part a few years ago and took all the parts for my wagon, but they would not fin the the wheels that I wanted to use.? I am not certain how many of these can still be found in junk yards, but a great budget option for sure.? --
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On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 08:26 -0600, Will wrote: Jay, not sure what kind of budget your friend has, I didn't have much of one at the time. I found out Granada disc brakes and the spindles will fit on Mustangs and Fairlanes. That's what I ended up doing on my 68 Fairlane. It was a non power drum brake car too, didn't go with a? booster. Had to use Granada tie rod ends and switched master to a Maverick one. The best decision I ever made on the car. I was looking at the disc brake kits out there, but saved about $400 doing it the way I did.
Will Denver, CO On Aug 21, 2023 8:13 AM, jay Rush < jrush69gt@...> wrote: I know some of you are Mustang gurus and that the answer would be the same for the fairlane. I have a friend with a 69 Mustang V8 with non power shoe brakes. He would like to add at least front disc brakes to improve braking. What vendor would you recommend and would you also add power booster?
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