Re: Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
Garry,
Also IIRC I think the Midland one has a larger nipple vs the smaller Bendix. All you need to do is go into Auto Zone, Napa, Car Quest with your broken Booster Check Valve to make sure you get the correct size. See the below link for a general valve.
https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-traction-control/power-brake-booster-check-valve
NOTE: I was able to carefully twist & pull out the valve from the original hose out from under the factory crimp clamp & install the new valve the same way. Depending on how new your hose is you might be able to carefully & slightly uncrimp the clamp so you can slide out the valve & slide in the new one & then recrimp it.
Also depending on where & how it broke it might be possible to repair it with JB Weld. IF it was one of the nipples that broke off you could slide some metal tubing up the center for added support & then JB Weld the nipple, tubing & the valve all together.
David from WNY
On Thursday, November 26, 2020, 01:12:41 PM EST, D. Hadley via groups.io <dhadley390@...> wrote:
Gary,
Can you email me/us pics of the part & all it's pieces?
You can also check with The Ram Man in TX. A few years ago I called them & bought a reaction disk/diaphragm (a rubber disk with metal fingers molded into it) for the inside of the Midland booster on my 68 Torino GT. He was the ONLY one who would sell me the part & the reason being is I knew what the part was & I knew it was the cause of my problem as I described it all & my diagnosis. With the help of the 68 Shop manual & a Chilltons manual and some searching online I had all the info I needed as back in the day you could buy a booster rebuild kit for the Banded Midland boosters, so I was able to locate the name of the part I needed. He sent it out right away. I installed it & all was fine, but later had other issues unrelated to the to the part I got & the booster failed (the original rubber billows blew). I was in a very tight time crunch as in days & hours to make the trip to an FCA meet when the booster fully failed & couldn't source a booster, I saw he had Bendix one listed on Ebay with the bracket (NOTE to all the mounting bracket IS different & is Matched to the booster brand used), I called him direct & bough the assembly from him & he shipped it right out. I got it just in time (a matter of hours) & was able to convert my Torino from the original Midland over to a Bendix booster. I had to swap both booster, bracket & I think the linkage but can't remember.
http://therammaninc.com/
(817) 429-0105
7200 Winters St, Fort Worth, TX 76120, United States
David from WNY
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 07:52:19 PM EST, Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> wrote:
Thanks Bernie.? I will give him a call to see if he would sell just the check valve.? He should at least know which check valve will fit my booster. ? ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bernie Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 3:49 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve ? You could always call Booster Dewey.? He would know and most likely would have one in stock, since his business is rebuilding boosters. Phone number?? (503) 238-8882 ? ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? The check valve broke on my brake booster.? I have found out both Bendix and Midland boosters were used on 68 and 69 Fairlanes.? After a little search it appears mine is a Midland, but I have not found a Midland check valve specifically for a 69 Fairlane.? The Midland check valves for a 61-71 Thunderbird look like mine and 67-68 Cougars also look the same as mine. ?
Does anyone know if either of these Midland check valves will fit my Midland booster?
Gary in SoCal
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving and one quick question
Dave,
No hurry. I would very much appreciate it but can't ask you go go through the trouble.?
Bob in PA
On Thursday, November 26, 2020, 12:38:01 PM EST, D. Hadley via groups.io <dhadley390@...> wrote:
Happy Turkey Day to all!!!
Bob to answer your question. I am guessing you want to know size & if it is a machine or sheet metal screw?
IF you are not in too much of a hurry, I can try to get to one of my cars this weekend to pull off the pad & pull one of the screws, take a few pics of it with measurements & email you the pics.
David from WNY
On Thursday, November 26, 2020, 11:53:15 AM EST, Bob Duncan via groups.io <breathe_ezr@...> wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I hope everyone is able to have a good holiday.
I do have a quick question. What is the screw thread that holds the turn signal came into the steering column? I accidentally threw mine away.??
Bob in PA
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Re: Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
Gary,
Can you email me/us pics of the part & all it's pieces?
You can also check with The Ram Man in TX. A few years ago I called them & bought a reaction disk/diaphragm (a rubber disk with metal fingers molded into it) for the inside of the Midland booster on my 68 Torino GT. He was the ONLY one who would sell me the part & the reason being is I knew what the part was & I knew it was the cause of my problem as I described it all & my diagnosis. With the help of the 68 Shop manual & a Chilltons manual and some searching online I had all the info I needed as back in the day you could buy a booster rebuild kit for the Banded Midland boosters, so I was able to locate the name of the part I needed. He sent it out right away. I installed it & all was fine, but later had other issues unrelated to the to the part I got & the booster failed (the original rubber billows blew). I was in a very tight time crunch as in days & hours to make the trip to an FCA meet when the booster fully failed & couldn't source a booster, I saw he had Bendix one listed on Ebay with the bracket (NOTE to all the mounting bracket IS different & is Matched to the booster brand used), I called him direct & bough the assembly from him & he shipped it right out. I got it just in time (a matter of hours) & was able to convert my Torino from the original Midland over to a Bendix booster. I had to swap both booster, bracket & I think the linkage but can't remember.
http://therammaninc.com/
(817) 429-0105
7200 Winters St, Fort Worth, TX 76120, United States
David from WNY
On Wednesday, November 25, 2020, 07:52:19 PM EST, Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> wrote:
Thanks Bernie.? I will give him a call to see if he would sell just the check valve.? He should at least know which check valve will fit my booster. ? ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bernie Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 3:49 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve ? You could always call Booster Dewey.? He would know and most likely would have one in stock, since his business is rebuilding boosters. Phone number?? (503) 238-8882 ? ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? The check valve broke on my brake booster.? I have found out both Bendix and Midland boosters were used on 68 and 69 Fairlanes.? After a little search it appears mine is a Midland, but I have not found a Midland check valve specifically for a 69 Fairlane.? The Midland check valves for a 61-71 Thunderbird look like mine and 67-68 Cougars also look the same as mine. ?
Does anyone know if either of these Midland check valves will fit my Midland booster?
Gary in SoCal
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving and one quick question
Happy Turkey Day to all!!!
Bob to answer your question. I am guessing you want to know size & if it is a machine or sheet metal screw?
IF you are not in too much of a hurry, I can try to get to one of my cars this weekend to pull off the pad & pull one of the screws, take a few pics of it with measurements & email you the pics.
David from WNY
On Thursday, November 26, 2020, 11:53:15 AM EST, Bob Duncan via groups.io <breathe_ezr@...> wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I hope everyone is able to have a good holiday.
I do have a quick question. What is the screw thread that holds the turn signal came into the steering column? I accidentally threw mine away.??
Bob in PA
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Happy Thanksgiving and one quick question
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I hope everyone is able to have a good holiday.
I do have a quick question. What is the screw thread that holds the turn signal came into the steering column? I accidentally threw mine away.??
Bob in PA
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Re: Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
Thanks Bernie.? I will give him a call to see if he would sell just the check valve.? He should at least know which check valve will fit my booster.
?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]>
On Behalf Of Bernie
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 3:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
?
You could always call Booster Dewey.? He would know and most likely would have one in stock, since his business is rebuilding boosters.
Phone number?? (503) 238-8882
?
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Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
The check valve broke on my brake booster.? I have found out both Bendix and Midland boosters were used on 68 and 69 Fairlanes.? After a little search it appears mine is a Midland, but I have not found a Midland check valve specifically
for a 69 Fairlane.? The Midland check valves for a 61-71 Thunderbird look like mine and 67-68 Cougars also look the same as mine. ?
Does anyone know if either of these Midland check valves will fit my Midland booster?
Gary in SoCal
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Re: Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
You could always call Booster Dewey.? He would know and most likely would have one in stock, since his business is rebuilding boosters. Phone number?? (503) 238-8882 ? ? ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Gary WittmanSent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 3:47 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [fairlaneregistry] Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve ? The check valve broke on my brake booster.? I have found out both Bendix and Midland boosters were used on 68 and 69 Fairlanes.? After a little search it appears mine is a Midland, but I have not found a Midland check valve specifically for a 69 Fairlane.? The Midland check valves for a 61-71 Thunderbird look like mine and 67-68 Cougars also look the same as mine. ?
Does anyone know if either of these Midland check valves will fit my Midland booster?
Gary in SoCal
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Cobra Brake Booster Check Valve
The check valve broke on my brake booster.? I have found out both Bendix and Midland boosters were used on 68 and 69 Fairlanes.? After a little search it appears mine is a Midland, but I have not found a Midland check valve specifically for a 69 Fairlane.? The Midland check valves for a 61-71 Thunderbird look like mine and 67-68 Cougars also look the same as mine. ?
Does anyone know if either of these Midland check valves will fit my Midland booster?
Gary in SoCal
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Of course, I should have recognized him from that angle. lol
OK, I think it was a message to someone who didn't make
it there. Who was it?
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:30 p.m., Dennis
Bregitzer wrote:
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No. That's lloyd in front of me. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 9:27
PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...>
wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. That pic was a message to
Lllllloooooyyyyyyyddddddd wasn't it?
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 5:57 p.m., Dennis Bregitzer wrote:
That guy in the middle is nothing but
sexy....... Hope everyone is doing well during this
time. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27,
2020, 6:58 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...>
wrote:
Linc,
I can recognize my best profile in the pic. LOL.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:59 a.m., Linc wrote:
Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
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I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
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No. That's lloyd in front of me. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 9:27 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong. That pic was a message to
Lllllloooooyyyyyyyddddddd wasn't it?
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 5:57 p.m., Dennis
Bregitzer wrote:
That guy in the middle is nothing but sexy.......
Hope everyone is doing well during this time. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:58 PM
Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
Linc,
I can recognize my best profile in the pic. LOL.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:59 a.m., Linc wrote:
Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
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I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
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Correct me if I'm wrong. That pic was a message to
Lllllloooooyyyyyyyddddddd wasn't it?
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 5:57 p.m., Dennis
Bregitzer wrote:
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That guy in the middle is nothing but sexy.......
Hope everyone is doing well during this time. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:58 PM
Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
Linc,
I can recognize my best profile in the pic. LOL.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:59 a.m., Linc wrote:
Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
============================================================
I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
============================================================
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That guy in the middle is nothing but sexy....... Hope everyone is doing well during this time. Dennis
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 6:58 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
Linc,
I can recognize my best profile in the pic. LOL.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:59 a.m., Linc wrote:
Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
============================================================
I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
============================================================
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Linc,
I can recognize my best profile in the pic. LOL.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-27 6:59 a.m., Linc wrote:
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Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
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I thought it said "gassy fella's"
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 09:59:43 AM EDT, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
============================================================
I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
============================================================
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Hello Yall ! ! !
Circa 2006 and a group of glassy fella's
--
============================================================
I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?
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Re: Really clean 'dega for sale
Hey Gang,
Apparently, with this forum, we are able to send pics, attachments,
etc.
Isn't that an interesting improvement.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2020-10-02 4:09 p.m., Dennis
Bregitzer wrote:
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I have a blue one that I took to Nationals in
2010. You may have seen it.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 2:46 PM
Chris Scheers < chris@...>
wrote:
At 09:29 PM
10/1/2020, MTate via wrote:
>I actually have a Maisto die cast model of the
>69 Dega and it is.more spot on. Even has the
>correct wheels and tires, not the Magnum alloys in the
auction.
Some trivia:
I talked to the guy at Ford who consulted with Maisto on the
model.
This was probably 15 years ago and I can't
remember his name just now.? It is in my notes
somewhere, but they are a horrible mess.
He claimed that the Maisto model was done based
on the Ford drawings and documentation of a
Talladega.? He also told me that this
documentation was later lost in a dispute with a vendor.?
<sigh>
He had also worked on the Talladega in 1969 and
told me that the workers at Ford hated the car
because any one with the skills was called in on
a Saturday to relead the fenders that had not
been done correctly by the vendor. (H&M?)
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Chris Scheers <chris@...>
>Date: 10/1/20 12:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for
sale
>
>At 06:49 AM 9/30/2020, D. Hadley via wrote:
>
> >Very Nice Dega. Sadly I don't have enough pocket
change for this
> >one.... Dave it's all yours for the taking, LOL.
> >
> >Seriously though & to get some banter going with
the group, all you
> >Dega experts here,
> >
> >1) What if anything is wrong with this car?
>
>1) The tires/wheels are wrong.? They should be 14" sport
rims with
>argent paint and a plain cap.
>
>2) The underside should be painted with red primer, not
black.
>
>3) I'm pretty sure that the nose of the differential
should also be
>red primer, but I could be wrong on that.
>
>4) I'm pretty sure that the trunk mat should be speckled,
not
>plaid.? Did Ford's get plaid mats?? I thought that was
Mercury
>only.? There should not be a cover on the spare.
>
>5) Did Ford's ever get a hood blanket?
>
>6) (Very minor nit.)? The flat black paint does not look
flat
>enough.? That could be the lighting.? At least they
attempted to mak�?? e
>it flat.? I've seen too many Dega's with glossy hoods.? I
accept that
>it is extremely difficult to get a truly flat paint these
days.
>
>Note: The head rests are the correct molded ones, which
many Dega
>restorations get wrong.? They are very nice and I am
jealous of
>them.? (If anyone has nice molded 1969 head rests that
they need to
>get rid of, please contact me.)
>
>Overall, it is a very nice looking car.
>
>I suspect that while the asking price is probably where
the market
>should be, I don't think the market is there yet.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.
Voice: 817-237-3360? ? ? ? ? ? Internet: chris@...
? ?Fax: 817-237-3074
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Re: Really clean 'dega for sale
I have a blue one that I took to Nationals in 2010. You may have seen it.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2020, 2:46 PM Chris Scheers < chris@...> wrote: At 09:29 PM 10/1/2020, MTate via wrote:
>I actually have a Maisto die cast model of the
>69 Dega and it is.more spot on. Even has the
>correct wheels and tires, not the Magnum alloys in the auction.
Some trivia:
I talked to the guy at Ford who consulted with Maisto on the model.
This was probably 15 years ago and I can't
remember his name just now.? It is in my notes
somewhere, but they are a horrible mess.
He claimed that the Maisto model was done based
on the Ford drawings and documentation of a
Talladega.? He also told me that this
documentation was later lost in a dispute with a vendor.? <sigh>
He had also worked on the Talladega in 1969 and
told me that the workers at Ford hated the car
because any one with the skills was called in on
a Saturday to relead the fenders that had not
been done correctly by the vendor. (H&M?)
>-------- Original message --------
>From: Chris Scheers <chris@...>
>Date: 10/1/20 12:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
>
>At 06:49 AM 9/30/2020, D. Hadley via wrote:
>
> >Very Nice Dega. Sadly I don't have enough pocket change for this
> >one.... Dave it's all yours for the taking, LOL.
> >
> >Seriously though & to get some banter going with the group, all you
> >Dega experts here,
> >
> >1) What if anything is wrong with this car?
>
>1) The tires/wheels are wrong.? They should be 14" sport rims with
>argent paint and a plain cap.
>
>2) The underside should be painted with red primer, not black.
>
>3) I'm pretty sure that the nose of the differential should also be
>red primer, but I could be wrong on that.
>
>4) I'm pretty sure that the trunk mat should be speckled, not
>plaid.? Did Ford's get plaid mats?? I thought that was Mercury
>only.? There should not be a cover on the spare.
>
>5) Did Ford's ever get a hood blanket?
>
>6) (Very minor nit.)? The flat black paint does not look flat
>enough.? That could be the lighting.? At least they attempted to mak�?? e
>it flat.? I've seen too many Dega's with glossy hoods.? I accept that
>it is extremely difficult to get a truly flat paint these days.
>
>Note: The head rests are the correct molded ones, which many Dega
>restorations get wrong.? They are very nice and I am jealous of
>them.? (If anyone has nice molded 1969 head rests that they need to
>get rid of, please contact me.)
>
>Overall, it is a very nice looking car.
>
>I suspect that while the asking price is probably where the market
>should be, I don't think the market is there yet.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.
Voice: 817-237-3360? ? ? ? ? ? Internet: chris@...
? ?Fax: 817-237-3074
|
Re: Really clean 'dega for sale
At 09:29 PM 10/1/2020, MTate via groups.io wrote: I actually have a Maisto die cast model of the 69 Dega and it is.more spot on. Even has the correct wheels and tires, not the Magnum alloys in the auction. Some trivia: I talked to the guy at Ford who consulted with Maisto on the model. This was probably 15 years ago and I can't remember his name just now. It is in my notes somewhere, but they are a horrible mess. He claimed that the Maisto model was done based on the Ford drawings and documentation of a Talladega. He also told me that this documentation was later lost in a dispute with a vendor. <sigh> He had also worked on the Talladega in 1969 and told me that the workers at Ford hated the car because any one with the skills was called in on a Saturday to relead the fenders that had not been done correctly by the vendor. (H&M?) -------- Original message --------
From: Chris Scheers <chris@...>
Date: 10/1/20 12:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
At 06:49 AM 9/30/2020, D. Hadley via groups.io wrote:
Very Nice Dega. Sadly I don't have enough pocket change for this
one.... Dave it's all yours for the taking, LOL.
Seriously though & to get some banter going with the group, all you
Dega experts here,
1) What if anything is wrong with this car? 1) The tires/wheels are wrong. They should be 14" sport rims with
argent paint and a plain cap.
2) The underside should be painted with red primer, not black.
3) I'm pretty sure that the nose of the differential should also be
red primer, but I could be wrong on that.
4) I'm pretty sure that the trunk mat should be speckled, not
plaid. Did Ford's get plaid mats? I thought that was Mercury
only. There should not be a cover on the spare.
5) Did Ford's ever get a hood blanket?
6) (Very minor nit.) The flat black paint does not look flat
enough. That could be the lighting. At least they attempted to mak??? e
it flat. I've seen too many Dega's with glossy hoods. I accept that
it is extremely difficult to get a truly flat paint these days.
Note: The head rests are the correct molded ones, which many Dega
restorations get wrong. They are very nice and I am jealous of
them. (If anyone has nice molded 1969 head rests that they need to
get rid of, please contact me.)
Overall, it is a very nice looking car.
I suspect that while the asking price is probably where the market
should be, I don't think the market is there yet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360 Internet: chris@... Fax: 817-237-3074
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
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On Oct 2, 2020 9:37 AM, Carl Sharp <carl.sharp.c9mm@...> wrote:
Ha-ha!? I must be sitting on a gold mine.? I have at least 6 of the Presidential Blue, 2 of the Wimbledon White and 2 of the Royal Maroon ones, plus 3 or 4 of
the Gold ones that never were¡
?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of LLLLllllloooyyydd via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
?
We now know a car dealer in Michigan that might be able to get you guys like $15k for those Maisto Degas once he has rotisserie restored them!? ;-o
LLLLLLlllllllllloooooooyyyyyddd
In a message dated 10/1/2020 10:11:05 PM Mountain Standard Time,
avakar@... writes:
I've got the Maisto Dega model too, mine is in blue but a quick check of
eBay shows they also made it in maroon and even a "Special Edition" gold.
Tony
On 10/1/2020 10:29 PM, MTate via groups.io wrote:
> I actually have a Maisto die cast model of the 69 Dega and it is.more
> spot on. Even has the correct wheels and tires, not the Magnum alloys
> in the auction.
>
> Marty in FL
>
>
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
Ha-ha!? I must be sitting on a gold mine.? I have at least 6 of the Presidential Blue, 2 of the Wimbledon White and 2 of the Royal Maroon ones, plus 3 or 4 of
the Gold ones that never were¡
?
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of LLLLllllloooyyydd via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [fairlaneregistry] Really clean 'dega for sale
?
We now know a car dealer in Michigan that might be able to get you guys like $15k for those Maisto Degas once he has rotisserie restored them!? ;-o
LLLLLLlllllllllloooooooyyyyyddd
In a message dated 10/1/2020 10:11:05 PM Mountain Standard Time,
avakar@... writes:
I've got the Maisto Dega model too, mine is in blue but a quick check of
eBay shows they also made it in maroon and even a "Special Edition" gold.
Tony
On 10/1/2020 10:29 PM, MTate via groups.io wrote:
> I actually have a Maisto die cast model of the 69 Dega and it is.more
> spot on. Even has the correct wheels and tires, not the Magnum alloys
> in the auction.
>
> Marty in FL
>
>
>
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Linc
