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Hope everyone is doing well today after the storms ran across the country. Dennis


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

Brad,

Thank you for the pics.


Steve and Brad,

As I recall my '68 vert (early Jan '68 build date) had 4 of those front seat "tower" spacers (3rd & 4th pics), 2 on the back of each bucket seat. When I put the interior back in I didn't reinstall the "tower" spacers which slightly and nicely reclined and lowered the seats. For me, making it easier to get in and more comfortable. YMMV.


Steve,

Brad's underside pics show the stiffening plate bolted in place how an where it should be. Which the pics I sent you showed it uninstalled out of the car and the pics of the original stiffening plate & a original mounting bolt (total of 6 are used) with measurements. This due to me needing to make spacers so the stiffening plate would clear the larger diameter 2008 Crown Vic PI (Police Interceptor) aluminum driveshaft I retrofitted in.

David from WNY
On Sunday, January 26, 2025 at 01:23:55 AM EST, Steve W via groups.io <fords65273@...> wrote:


Between the two emails, those pictures are exactly what I need! Thanks so much.?

Steve


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brad Turner via groups.io <bturner@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2025 6:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Question on seat brackets
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Top 2 back holes in middle have little stands that bucket seats are on. Looks like there is a flat reinforcement piece on 2 middle bolts under car. Can see image for it in undercoating. Screwdrivers though floor shows where holes come through.


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

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Between the two emails, those pictures are exactly what I need! Thanks so much.?

Steve


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brad Turner via groups.io <bturner@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2025 6:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Question on seat brackets
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Top 2 back holes in middle have little stands that bucket seats are on. Looks like there is a flat reinforcement piece on 2 middle bolts under car. Can see image for it in undercoating. Screwdrivers though floor shows where holes come through.


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

Top 2 back holes in middle have little stands that bucket seats are on. Looks like there is a flat reinforcement piece on 2 middle bolts under car. Can see image for it in undercoating. Screwdrivers though floor shows where holes come through.


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

Get you pictures Saturday?


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

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Brad,
? Thanks. Here's a pic of my floor pan. The box #A is where the outer rear seat mount for a bench seat, and probably bucket seat, is?located. Mine's rusted away. David Hadley has sent pictures of the underside of his car, showing just a hole for the inner seat bracket bolt along the transmission tunnel for bucket seats, and believes there is a removable spacer on top (boxes B & C). If you could verify if anything is welded to the floor in locations B & C, or if it's just a spacer on the bolt, I'd appreciate it.

Steve


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brad Turner via groups.io <bturner@...>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 8:20 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Question on seat brackets
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I currently have a 68 Torino convertible on my hoist. Bucket seats and interior removed. If you still need some pictures of floor I can send you some. Original floor in excellent condition. Just let me know what pictures you need.?


Re: Question on seat brackets

 

I currently have a 68 Torino convertible on my hoist. Bucket seats and interior removed. If you still need some pictures of floor I can send you some. Original floor in excellent condition. Just let me know what pictures you need.?


Re: An Epic Event

 

Can I send you my chickens? ?Three frozen eggs today ! ? They might really enjoy Florida.
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 17:15 -0500, jay Rush via groups.io wrote:
You guys need to come to central Florida, it made it up to 50 today
Jay?

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025, 4:47?PM Linc via <linc=[email protected]> wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, it has been zero degrees the last two days.


Re: An Epic Event

 

I'm envious. However, they're saying 65° by Sunday.? But 12" today.






Re: An Epic Event

 

You guys need to come to central Florida, it made it up to 50 today
Jay?

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025, 4:47?PM Linc via <linc=[email protected]> wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, it has been zero degrees the last two days.
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 20:49 +0000, g kampen via wrote:
Lol! I can see how you guys get tired of it. It's only been 8 hours and I'm over it. My dog LOVES it though. I've been playing with him out there.








On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 2:39 PM, Linc
<linc@...> wrote:
That's a Wednesday in Michigan....
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 18:41 +0000, g kampen via wrote:








Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via
<fords65273=[email protected]> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
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I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?


Re: An Epic Event

 

Same here in cleveland.5 to -5 with wind chills -25-30 below. Dennis


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025, 4:47?PM Linc via <linc=[email protected]> wrote:
If it makes you feel any better, it has been zero degrees the last two days.
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 20:49 +0000, g kampen via wrote:
Lol! I can see how you guys get tired of it. It's only been 8 hours and I'm over it. My dog LOVES it though. I've been playing with him out there.








On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 2:39 PM, Linc
<linc@...> wrote:
That's a Wednesday in Michigan....
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 18:41 +0000, g kampen via wrote:








Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via
<fords65273=[email protected]> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?


Re: An Epic Event

 

If it makes you feel any better, it has been zero degrees the last two days.
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 20:49 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:
Lol! I can see how you guys get tired of it. It's only been 8 hours and I'm over it. My dog LOVES it though. I've been playing with him out there.








On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 2:39 PM, Linc
<linc@...> wrote:
That's a Wednesday in Michigan....
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 18:41 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:








Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via groups.io
<fords65273@...> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?


Re: An Epic Event

 

Lol! I can see how you guys get tired of it. It's only been 8 hours and I'm over it. My dog LOVES it though. I've been playing with him out there.







On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 2:39 PM, Linc
<linc@...> wrote:
That's a Wednesday in Michigan....
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 18:41 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:








Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via groups.io
<fords65273@...> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?


Re: An Epic Event

 

That's a Wednesday in Michigan....
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 18:41 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:








Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.


On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via groups.io
<fords65273@...> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?


Re: An Epic Event

 









Well, we've got a little bit more than 1/2". And the weatherman says it's not going to stop 'til 5 or 6pm.

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 10:11 AM, Steve W via groups.io
<fords65273@...> wrote:
Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 13:21 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:
Snow in N. O.!!!?
City is closed.
? Greg



Re: An Epic Event

 

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Up here, we laugh at your snow closures (and possibly are a little jealous). ?


Steve


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 7:22 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] An Epic Event
?
I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 13:21 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:
Snow in N. O.!!!?
City is closed.
? Greg



Re: An Epic Event

 

I was in Dallas years ago when they closed the city and airport for 1/2" of snow.?
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On Tue, 2025-01-21 at 13:21 +0000, g kampen via groups.io wrote:
Snow in N. O.!!!?
City is closed.
? Greg



An Epic Event

 

Snow in N. O.!!!?
City is closed.
? Greg



Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again

 

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In a way, I'm glad I got floor pans that need modified. I have extra material to make up the 3/16" gap!

Steve


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of D. Hadley via groups.io <dhadley390@...>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 6:59 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
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It's coming along nicely!!!

Yes on the floor pans needing to be modified to fit convertibles. When the shop was replacing the floor pans on my convertible they told me I got the wrong pans. I told them NOPE, those were the ONLY pans available and they would need to cut them to fit. Oh the joys of having a convertible... lol

David from WNY




On Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 07:39:25 PM EST, Steve W via groups.io <fords65273@...> wrote:


I have some update pics of my project; in case anyone is interested. I have the inner rockers welded in and a damaged left A pillar replaced. I found out the guy that made the rocker parts, made them about 3/16" undersized on the side where the floors connect, so I have some creative sheet metal work to do on the floors. That's ok, because the floor pans are for a coupe and have to be massaged for a convertible anyway. After I get all the floor structure welded, and some additional brackets made, I can start on cowl repair and installing floors.

Steve


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent:?Monday, August 21, 2023 4:45 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [fairlaneregistry] '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
?
Hello Steve,

First I have to say that you are awefully ambitious to do that work wthout ?a 'spot welder' if that
means you don't have a 'welder' at all. If you just mean you don't have a dedicated spot welder,
then you don't need that. Pop some holes with a drill or punch in your new panel and then fill
them with a mig welder. That is how the majority of the world does it.

As for panel bonding, nope Nope NOPE.. Not this guy. ?The are great and they work wonderful
for some amount of time, but they were never designed to last long term. ?In 2010 a shop that
was fixing my F350 told me my one bed side was going to have to be replaced. I knew their reputation
and told them "Sure, do it at long as you weld it 100%" ?They welded the top edge and the front
edge but used panel bond everywhere else and I was not happy. Five years later the back of the?
panel started flapping in the wind while driving. ?I had to scrape it all out, clay it up, and the spot
weld while doing heat mitigation to save the paint. ?To years later the filler panel that goes?
between the bed and bed site, that the tailgate hangs on, let go and my tailgate fell and hung
from the cables. Damaged my bedsite and tailgate.

Just weld it. ?That is where I stand.

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On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 05:56 +0000, Steve W wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?

Steve


Re: '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again

 

It's coming along nicely!!!

Yes on the floor pans needing to be modified to fit convertibles. When the shop was replacing the floor pans on my convertible they told me I got the wrong pans. I told them NOPE, those were the ONLY pans available and they would need to cut them to fit. Oh the joys of having a convertible... lol

David from WNY




On Thursday, January 16, 2025 at 07:39:25 PM EST, Steve W via groups.io <fords65273@...> wrote:


I have some update pics of my project; in case anyone is interested. I have the inner rockers welded in and a damaged left A pillar replaced. I found out the guy that made the rocker parts, made them about 3/16" undersized on the side where the floors connect, so I have some creative sheet metal work to do on the floors. That's ok, because the floor pans are for a coupe and have to be massaged for a convertible anyway. After I get all the floor structure welded, and some additional brackets made, I can start on cowl repair and installing floors.

Steve


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linc <linc@...>
Sent:?Monday, August 21, 2023 4:45 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [fairlaneregistry] '69 Fairlane sheet metal, again
?
Hello Steve,

First I have to say that you are awefully ambitious to do that work wthout ?a 'spot welder' if that
means you don't have a 'welder' at all. If you just mean you don't have a dedicated spot welder,
then you don't need that. Pop some holes with a drill or punch in your new panel and then fill
them with a mig welder. That is how the majority of the world does it.

As for panel bonding, nope Nope NOPE.. Not this guy. ?The are great and they work wonderful
for some amount of time, but they were never designed to last long term. ?In 2010 a shop that
was fixing my F350 told me my one bed side was going to have to be replaced. I knew their reputation
and told them "Sure, do it at long as you weld it 100%" ?They welded the top edge and the front
edge but used panel bond everywhere else and I was not happy. Five years later the back of the?
panel started flapping in the wind while driving. ?I had to scrape it all out, clay it up, and the spot
weld while doing heat mitigation to save the paint. ?To years later the filler panel that goes?
between the bed and bed site, that the tailgate hangs on, let go and my tailgate fell and hung
from the cables. Damaged my bedsite and tailgate.

Just weld it. ?That is where I stand.
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============================================================ ?I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?============================================================

On Mon, 2023-08-21 at 05:56 +0000, Steve W wrote:
? I asked quite some time ago about inner rocker availability for a convertible, and thought I'd revisit the subject. I called several suppliers, and not only are they not making the inner rocker pieces, but have no plans to do so. I finally found someone locally that will reproduce the metal for me, but have to bring him the original pieces to use as templates. Well, most of it is gone, but I've finally got all three pieces on one side out and will drop them off tomorrow. I had to weld bracing on to one because it was just the outside edge, and broken apart in several places. The shop is going to duplicate one set, then do a mirror image for the other side.
? I have two questions. First, if my custom made repops work out, does anyone else need any? I can ask the shop if they want to do a limited run if there is interest. Second, since I don't own a spot welder, I was thinking of using one of the new structural adhesives for putting the new pieces back in. Has anyone had any experience with them, pro's/con's, and does anyone see any reason it wouldn't work as well as spot welding?

Steve