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Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育I am just happy I didn’t bore you all with details.? Being a scientist, I can tend to do that.? Fortunately, we all have similar interests.? ? As to a new career, I am still attempting to retire from my current one.? I have got it down to 3 days a week so far. ? Gary in SoCal ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor ? Another email I'll save for reference. Thank you?for the great report. ? Steve ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> ? I wanted to give another update on my new fuel sending unit.? Even though the gage read close to what I wanted with the tank full and 5 gallons in the tank, I found it was not very linear.? It would drop down fast initially and then slow
down after 3/8 tank or so.? I was not comfortable with that, so I decided to take my old sending unit apart to see what was going on in there. |
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 3:14 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor ?
I wanted to give another update on my new fuel sending unit.? Even though the gage read close to what I wanted with the tank full and 5 gallons in the tank, I found it was not very linear.? It would drop down fast initially and then slow down after 3/8
tank or so.? I was not comfortable with that, so I decided to take my old sending unit apart to see what was going on in there.
I found the metal strip that slides across the wire winding was worn through and the end was just barely hanging on. I removed the hanging piece and bent the metal strip so it would contact in a different area.? I then made sure it had pressure against the wire windings.? I tested the ohm readout and it functioned very smooth and transitioned through the ohm range very uniform.? I had tested the repaired float and filter by soaking in gasoline for a week.? They both passed but I did not like the looks of the filter.? I figured out how to remove the filters from both the old and new sending units and swapped them.? I thought about swapping the floats but decided to try the old float first, at least for a while. With the gasoline drained from the tank I installed the old sending unit and was getting a reading over E on the fuel gage.? I adjusted the float position by bending the float arm until I could get a reading of slightly below E.? I then tightened the sending unit lock ring and put in 5 gallons of gas.? The gage read just below 1/4.? I then added another 2 gallons and got a gage reading of just over 1/4.? When I filled it up the gage read slightly over F, which is what I am used to seeing.? After driving about 10 miles the gage was on F.? I think it should continue to work well. ? I will continue to observe the gage reading when the tank is full to determine if the float is soaking up fuel.? I can always swap the float from the new sending unit if needed. |
Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Good Job Sir ! --============================================================ I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know? ============================================================ On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 15:14 -0700, Gary Wittman wrote: I wanted to give another update on my new fuel sending unit.? Even though the gage read close to what I wanted with the tank full and 5 gallons in the tank, I found it was not very linear.? It would drop down fast initially and then slow down after 3/8 tank or so.? I was not comfortable with that, so I decided to take my old sending unit apart to see what was going on in there. |
Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Gary,What a great write-up. Pete from the Loops . On 2020-03-24 3:14 p.m., Gary Wittman
wrote:
I wanted to give another update on my new fuel sending unit.? Even though the gage read close to what I wanted with the tank full and 5 gallons in the tank, I found it was not very linear.? It would drop down fast initially and then slow down after 3/8 tank or so.? I was not comfortable with that, so I decided to take my old sending unit apart to see what was going on in there. |
Re: Fuel level sensor
Thanks for the update Gary. Please keep us informed. You just might have stumbled upon a new career! --
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Re: Fuel level sensor
I wanted to give another update on my new fuel sending unit.? Even though the gage read close to what I wanted with the tank full and 5 gallons in the tank, I found it was not very linear.? It would drop down fast initially and then slow down after 3/8 tank or so.? I was not comfortable with that, so I decided to take my old sending unit apart to see what was going on in there.
I found the metal strip that slides across the wire winding was worn through and the end was just barely hanging on. I removed the hanging piece and bent the metal strip so it would contact in a different area.? I then made sure it had pressure against the wire windings.? I tested the ohm readout and it functioned very smooth and transitioned through the ohm range very uniform.? I had tested the repaired float and filter by soaking in gasoline for a week.? They both passed but I did not like the looks of the filter.? I figured out how to remove the filters from both the old and new sending units and swapped them.? I thought about swapping the floats but decided to try the old float first, at least for a while. With the gasoline drained from the tank I installed the old sending unit and was getting a reading over E on the fuel gage.? I adjusted the float position by bending the float arm until I could get a reading of slightly below E.? I then tightened the sending unit lock ring and put in 5 gallons of gas.? The gage read just below 1/4.? I then added another 2 gallons and got a gage reading of just over 1/4.? When I filled it up the gage read slightly over F, which is what I am used to seeing.? After driving about 10 miles the gage was on F.? I think it should continue to work well. ? I will continue to observe the gage reading when the tank is full to determine if the float is soaking up fuel.? I can always swap the float from the new sending unit if needed. |
Re: Price for hood
Donald,
Let me check compatibility and figure out a price and I'll let you know.?? Thanks! Bob in PA ---------------------------- Bob,
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I have a pair of hood hinges I took off over 20 years ago (need cleaning)from a 70 Torino, make me an offer and pay shipping and they are yours. i am locate in Houston, TX
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Re: Price for hood
开云体育There has not been a lot of traffic on either group since most people have migrated to facebook. These groups seem to mainly support those of us who have no desire for the social media platforms. I am replying using both groups on this message. --============================================================ I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know? ============================================================ On Sat, 2020-03-21 at 03:03 +0000, Steve W fords65273@... [fairlaneregistry] wrote:
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Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST
开云体育?I was at that auction and that was a VERY NICE convertible well worth the price. I was at the auction on Thursday, the day after that Torino was sold, and prices paid were crazy for some vehicles. There were truly some bargains to be had and others sold for way more than they were worth. A nice thing about that auction is none of the auction vehicles can be removed from the grounds until after the event is over. So anyone on the grounds can see all the cars in the auction before and after they sell. Once they have been they the auction the selling price is listed on sold sign. On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
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Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST
开云体育I was at that auction and that was a VERY NICE convertible well worth the price.I was at the auction on Thursday, the day after that Torino was sold, and prices paid were crazy for some vehicles. There were truly some bargains to be had and others sold for way more than they were worth. A nice thing about that auction is none of the auction vehicles can be removed from the grounds until after the event is over. So anyone on the grounds can see all the cars in the auction before and after they sell. Once they have been they the auction the selling price is listed on sold sign. On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote:
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Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Almost forgot to also remind you to test fit your gas cap before you get rid of your old tank and install the new.? My original fits but is so tight it wants to tear the gasket when I get to to fully engaged position.?Llllloooyyd? -------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Duncan via Groups.Io" <breathe_ezr@...> Date: 1/16/20 7:09 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Great tip!? Thank you!? Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 05:17:12 PM EST, LLLLllllloooyyydd via Groups.Io <heintz58@...> wrote:
Bob, When I recently installed a new Spectra tank I found that my ground strap was not contacting the tank when the mounting screw holes were aligned. Be sure to check that before you apply sealer and screw the new tank down. Good luck! Llllloooyyd? -------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Duncan via Groups.Io" <breathe_ezr@...> Date: 1/15/20 12:57 PM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor I've got to put in a new tank and sending unit so this is definitely helpful to me. Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 02:30:18 PM EST, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out. -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at.? It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay).? Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place.? I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little.? The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress.? After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank.? The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit.? I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit.? The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it.? After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line.? I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line.? I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up.? I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it.? So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons.? The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit.? I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float.? As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked.? I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works.? I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see.? Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal.? Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: >My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along >the length of the float.? The wire has a clip looking device >that keeps the float from sliding off the wire.?? It looks like the >float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that. >I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like >they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the >hook. >The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like >mine.? They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending >units and have for 30 years.? This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428 >CJ engine.? It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with >insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable >resistor.? Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation. > >Gary in SoCal > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >Of Chris Scheers >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > >Interesting.? I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and >those floats appear to be compatible with it. > >The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into. > >Is yours different? > >I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models. > > >At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: > > >Chris, > > > >I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine.? They > >work with a newer style sending unit.? I have found a new sending > >unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original > >sending unit.? I will probably order that one. > > > >Gary in SoCal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > >Behalf Of Chris Scheers > >Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > > > >At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote: > > > > >I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the > > >tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling > > >apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised. > > >The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. > > >I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and > > >used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. > > >I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I > > >hope the fuel does not cause them to relax.? I also put one zip tie > > >loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there. > > >The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some > > >of the outer skin was broken off at the edge.? The foam underneath > > >appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there.? I > > >applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little > > >overlap onto the intact skin.? I felt this would help to keep the > > >foam from deteriorating more.? Of course the best thing to do would > > >be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves. > > >I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in > > >case my repair does not work.? My fuel gage was reading just under > > >1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons.? I will see if the gage > > >changes after the repair. > > > > > >Not all epoxies are gasoline safe.? Some will deteriorate. > > > >New brass floats are available.? Here are a couple. > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dennis-2Dcar > >pe > >nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D927 > >5- > >2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b > >7j > >XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE& > >m= > >cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngx > >Qu > >gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e= > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_B > >ra > >ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcs > >x- > >5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp > >gn > >VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0h > >H0 > >FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7 > >yq > >9E&e= > > > >There are also plastic ones in the after market.? I don't have any > >experience with them. > > > >I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline.? Please > let me know. > > > >I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away.? They tend to > >fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system. > > > >Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline > >filter between the hard line and the fuel pump.? There are some clear > >ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump. > > > >I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but > >some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360??????????? Internet: chris@... ?? Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: Fuel level sensor
Great tip!? Thank you!? Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 05:17:12 PM EST, LLLLllllloooyyydd via Groups.Io <heintz58@...> wrote:
Bob, When I recently installed a new Spectra tank I found that my ground strap was not contacting the tank when the mounting screw holes were aligned. Be sure to check that before you apply sealer and screw the new tank down. Good luck! Llllloooyyd? -------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Duncan via Groups.Io" <breathe_ezr@...> Date: 1/15/20 12:57 PM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor I've got to put in a new tank and sending unit so this is definitely helpful to me. Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 02:30:18 PM EST, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out. -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at.? It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay).? Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place.? I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little.? The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress.? After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank.? The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit.? I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit.? The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it.? After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line.? I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line.? I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up.? I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it.? So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons.? The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit.? I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float.? As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked.? I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works.? I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see.? Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal.? Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: >My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along >the length of the float.? The wire has a clip looking device >that keeps the float from sliding off the wire.?? It looks like the >float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that. >I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like >they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the >hook. >The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like >mine.? They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending >units and have for 30 years.? This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428 >CJ engine.? It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with >insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable >resistor.? Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation. > >Gary in SoCal > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >Of Chris Scheers >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > >Interesting.? I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and >those floats appear to be compatible with it. > >The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into. > >Is yours different? > >I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models. > > >At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: > > >Chris, > > > >I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine.? They > >work with a newer style sending unit.? I have found a new sending > >unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original > >sending unit.? I will probably order that one. > > > >Gary in SoCal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > >Behalf Of Chris Scheers > >Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > > > >At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote: > > > > >I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the > > >tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling > > >apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised. > > >The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. > > >I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and > > >used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. > > >I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I > > >hope the fuel does not cause them to relax.? I also put one zip tie > > >loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there. > > >The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some > > >of the outer skin was broken off at the edge.? The foam underneath > > >appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there.? I > > >applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little > > >overlap onto the intact skin.? I felt this would help to keep the > > >foam from deteriorating more.? Of course the best thing to do would > > >be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves. > > >I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in > > >case my repair does not work.? My fuel gage was reading just under > > >1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons.? I will see if the gage > > >changes after the repair. > > > > > >Not all epoxies are gasoline safe.? Some will deteriorate. > > > >New brass floats are available.? Here are a couple. > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dennis-2Dcar > >pe > >nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D927 > >5- > >2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b > >7j > >XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE& > >m= > >cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngx > >Qu > >gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e= > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_B > >ra > >ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcs > >x- > >5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp > >gn > >VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0h > >H0 > >FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7 > >yq > >9E&e= > > > >There are also plastic ones in the after market.? I don't have any > >experience with them. > > > >I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline.? Please > let me know. > > > >I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away.? They tend to > >fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system. > > > >Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline > >filter between the hard line and the fuel pump.? There are some clear > >ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump. > > > >I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but > >some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360??????????? Internet: chris@... ?? Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Bob, When I recently installed a new Spectra tank I found that my ground strap was not contacting the tank when the mounting screw holes were aligned. Be sure to check that before you apply sealer and screw the new tank down.Good luck! Llllloooyyd? -------- Original message -------- From: "Bob Duncan via Groups.Io" <breathe_ezr@...> Date: 1/15/20 12:57 PM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor I've got to put in a new tank and sending unit so this is definitely helpful to me. Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 02:30:18 PM EST, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out. -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at.? It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay).? Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place.? I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little.? The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress.? After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank.? The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit.? I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit.? The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it.? After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line.? I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line.? I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up.? I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it.? So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons.? The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit.? I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float.? As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked.? I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works.? I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see.? Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal.? Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: >My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along >the length of the float.? The wire has a clip looking device >that keeps the float from sliding off the wire.?? It looks like the >float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that. >I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like >they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the >hook. >The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like >mine.? They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending >units and have for 30 years.? This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428 >CJ engine.? It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with >insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable >resistor.? Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation. > >Gary in SoCal > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >Of Chris Scheers >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > >Interesting.? I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and >those floats appear to be compatible with it. > >The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into. > >Is yours different? > >I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models. > > >At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: > > >Chris, > > > >I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine.? They > >work with a newer style sending unit.? I have found a new sending > >unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original > >sending unit.? I will probably order that one. > > > >Gary in SoCal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > >Behalf Of Chris Scheers > >Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > > > >At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote: > > > > >I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the > > >tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling > > >apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised. > > >The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. > > >I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and > > >used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. > > >I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I > > >hope the fuel does not cause them to relax.? I also put one zip tie > > >loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there. > > >The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some > > >of the outer skin was broken off at the edge.? The foam underneath > > >appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there.? I > > >applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little > > >overlap onto the intact skin.? I felt this would help to keep the > > >foam from deteriorating more.? Of course the best thing to do would > > >be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves. > > >I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in > > >case my repair does not work.? My fuel gage was reading just under > > >1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons.? I will see if the gage > > >changes after the repair. > > > > > >Not all epoxies are gasoline safe.? Some will deteriorate. > > > >New brass floats are available.? Here are a couple. > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dennis-2Dcar > >pe > >nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D927 > >5- > >2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b > >7j > >XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE& > >m= > >cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngx > >Qu > >gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e= > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_B > >ra > >ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcs > >x- > >5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp > >gn > >VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0h > >H0 > >FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7 > >yq > >9E&e= > > > >There are also plastic ones in the after market.? I don't have any > >experience with them. > > > >I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline.? Please > let me know. > > > >I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away.? They tend to > >fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system. > > > >Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline > >filter between the hard line and the fuel pump.? There are some clear > >ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump. > > > >I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but > >some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360??????????? Internet: chris@... ?? Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Happy to share and help whenever I can. ? Gary in SoCal ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Bob Duncan via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor ? I've got to put in a new tank and sending unit so this is definitely helpful to me. ? Bob in PA ? On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 02:30:18 PM EST, Linc <linc@...> wrote: ? ? Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out. ? -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor ? This is a follow up on what I did so far about my fuel level sensor.? I ordered one on eBay that is said to be an ACP brand and
has the part number C7OZ-9275-B.? It was the one that looked closest to the one that was in my tank.? After much discussion and search, I came to believe the old one in my tank was the original from the factory or at least an OEM replacement. |
Re: Fuel level sensor
I've got to put in a new tank and sending unit so this is definitely helpful to me. Bob in PA
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020, 02:30:18 PM EST, Linc <linc@...> wrote:
Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out. -------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at.? It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay).? Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place.? I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little.? The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress.? After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank.? The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit.? I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit.? The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it.? After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line.? I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line.? I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up.? I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it.? So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons.? The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit.? I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float.? As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked.? I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works.? I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see.? Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal.? Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: >My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along >the length of the float.? The wire has a clip looking device >that keeps the float from sliding off the wire.?? It looks like the >float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that. >I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like >they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the >hook. >The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like >mine.? They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending >units and have for 30 years.? This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428 >CJ engine.? It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with >insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable >resistor.? Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation. > >Gary in SoCal > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >Of Chris Scheers >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > >Interesting.? I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and >those floats appear to be compatible with it. > >The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into. > >Is yours different? > >I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models. > > >At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: > > >Chris, > > > >I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine.? They > >work with a newer style sending unit.? I have found a new sending > >unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original > >sending unit.? I will probably order that one. > > > >Gary in SoCal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > >Behalf Of Chris Scheers > >Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > > > >At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote: > > > > >I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the > > >tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling > > >apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised. > > >The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. > > >I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and > > >used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. > > >I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I > > >hope the fuel does not cause them to relax.? I also put one zip tie > > >loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there. > > >The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some > > >of the outer skin was broken off at the edge.? The foam underneath > > >appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there.? I > > >applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little > > >overlap onto the intact skin.? I felt this would help to keep the > > >foam from deteriorating more.? Of course the best thing to do would > > >be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves. > > >I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in > > >case my repair does not work.? My fuel gage was reading just under > > >1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons.? I will see if the gage > > >changes after the repair. > > > > > >Not all epoxies are gasoline safe.? Some will deteriorate. > > > >New brass floats are available.? Here are a couple. > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dennis-2Dcar > >pe > >nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D927 > >5- > >2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b > >7j > >XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE& > >m= > >cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngx > >Qu > >gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e= > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_B > >ra > >ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcs > >x- > >5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp > >gn > >VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0h > >H0 > >FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7 > >yq > >9E&e= > > > >There are also plastic ones in the after market.? I don't have any > >experience with them. > > > >I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline.? Please > let me know. > > > >I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away.? They tend to > >fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system. > > > >Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline > >filter between the hard line and the fuel pump.? There are some clear > >ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump. > > > >I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but > >some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360??????????? Internet: chris@... ?? Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: Fuel level sensor
开云体育Hey there Gary, thank you for the detailed write-up and your process. I'm sure this will help others should they run into the same situation. Again, thank you for sharing. Let us know how your test of repair turns out.-------- Original message -------- From: Gary Wittman <gary.wittman@...> Date: 1/15/20 1:52 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at.? It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay).? Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place.? I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little.? The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress.? After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank.? The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit.? I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit.? The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it.? After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line.? I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line.? I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up.? I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it.? So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons.? The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit.? I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float.? As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked.? I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works.? I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see.? Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal.? Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: >My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along >the length of the float.? The wire has a clip looking device >that keeps the float from sliding off the wire.?? It looks like the >float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that. >I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like >they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the >hook. >The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like >mine.? They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending >units and have for 30 years.? This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428 >CJ engine.? It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with >insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable >resistor.? Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation. > >Gary in SoCal > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >Of Chris Scheers >Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > >Interesting.? I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and >those floats appear to be compatible with it. > >The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into. > >Is yours different? > >I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models. > > >At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: > > >Chris, > > > >I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine.? They > >work with a newer style sending unit.? I have found a new sending > >unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original > >sending unit.? I will probably order that one. > > > >Gary in SoCal > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On > >Behalf Of Chris Scheers > >Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor > > > >At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote: > > > > >I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the > > >tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling > > >apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised. > > >The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. > > >I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and > > >used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. > > >I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I > > >hope the fuel does not cause them to relax.? I also put one zip tie > > >loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there. > > >The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some > > >of the outer skin was broken off at the edge.? The foam underneath > > >appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there.? I > > >applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little > > >overlap onto the intact skin.? I felt this would help to keep the > > >foam from deteriorating more.? Of course the best thing to do would > > >be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves. > > >I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in > > >case my repair does not work.? My fuel gage was reading just under > > >1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons.? I will see if the gage > > >changes after the repair. > > > > > >Not all epoxies are gasoline safe.? Some will deteriorate. > > > >New brass floats are available.? Here are a couple. > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dennis-2Dcar > >pe > >nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D927 > >5- > >2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b > >7j > >XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE& > >m= > >cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngx > >Qu > >gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e= > > > >https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.amazon.com_B > >ra > >ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcs > >x- > >5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdp > >gn > >VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0h > >H0 > >FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7 > >yq > >9E&e= > > > >There are also plastic ones in the after market.? I don't have any > >experience with them. > > > >I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline.? Please > let me know. > > > >I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away.? They tend to > >fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system. > > > >Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline > >filter between the hard line and the fuel pump.? There are some clear > >ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump. > > > >I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but > >some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360??????????? Internet: chris@... ?? Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: Fuel level sensor
This is a follow up on what I did so far about my fuel level sensor. I ordered one on eBay that is said to be an ACP brand and has the part number C7OZ-9275-B. It was the one that looked closest to the one that was in my tank. After much discussion and search, I came to believe the old one in my tank was the original from the factory or at least an OEM replacement.
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The new one did not look exactly like they show on eBay but seemed to have the best features of all the units I looked at. It is made of stainless steel, has a black wire (instead of yellow) going from the variable resistor to the wire connector, and the stops on the variable resistor for the float rod are the gate type instead of the tab type (as shown on eBay). Otherwise it looks the same. One thing I didn't like about it was it was difficult to keep the seal in place when installing it in the tank and it was difficult to see if it was in position once the sending unit was in place. I did finally get it in place only to discover the lock ring would not engage without compressing the seal a little. The seal was stiff enough that it was difficult to compress. After struggling with it for a while I did get the locking ring engaged and was able to rotate it to the locked position. I checked the ohm resistance from empty through full positions before I installed it in the tank. The transition was smooth throughout the range and had similar ohm values as the old sending unit. I drained very close to 4 gallons out of the tank before removing the old sending unit. The fuel gage was reading just under 1/4 with the fuel in it. After installing the new sending unit, I checked the fuel gage with no fuel in it and it was exactly on the E line. I dumped in the 4 gallons and the gage was reading just a hair over the E line. I then drove to the gas station I like to fill up. I estimated I still had about 3 gallons left in the tank when I filled up and was able to put 17 gallons in it. So, I learned my tank does hold 20 gallons. The gage read just barely under F after filling. So, I am pretty close to what I like reading on the fuel gage with this new sending unit. I am thinking the problem I had when I ran out of gas, while I thought I had plenty of reserve fuel left in it, was due to the float. As I explained before, the skin on the float was partially deteriorated, but the foam inside appeared to be close cell and still should have worked. I am now thinking the foam may still have gotten partially soaked with fuel and lost part of its buoyancy or is lost enough of the foam to allow it to sit lower in the fuel or a combination of both. I still plan to put fuel in a gallon can and place the old sending unit in there to see if my fix on the float and screen works. I will also observe how the float functions. Gary in SoCal. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Scheers Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor Ah, I see. Looking at pictures it appears that the wagon and Ranchero use the brass float while the cars use the black float the looks and feels like it was carved out of charcoal. Does that sound right? At 04:04 PM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote: My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360 Internet: chris@... Fax: 817-237-3074 |
Re: 1968 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST
开云体育Honestly more than I expected. I would have figured around $12k --============================================================ I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know? ============================================================ On Tue, 2020-01-14 at 00:35 +0000, D. Hadley via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: 1968 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST
Well it went for a lot less than we figured. 8H43Y153663 $14,850.00 Looks like someone got a good deal. At least on the face of it based on the very limited # of pics. David from WNY On Monday, January 13, 2020, 7:13:25 PM EST, D. Hadley via Groups.Io <dhadley390@...> wrote: @ Dave It will be interesting. It does look like a clean car. At least in the few pics shown. @ Chuck, Hi how ya doing. Not sure on the Pace Car, would have been nice IF they had posted pics of the Data Plate. They did list the vin which is below Barrett Jackson '68 Torino GT # 68 on the block today. 8H43Y153663 On Monday, January 13, 2020, 6:12:41 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote: My best guess is that it will bring 22,000 |
Re: 68/69 Torino to be on Barrett Jackson Auction. Streaming starts 2PM EST
@ Dave It will be interesting. It does look like a clean car. At least in the few pics shown. @ Chuck, Hi how ya doing. Not sure on the Pace Car, would have been nice IF they had posted pics of the Data Plate. They did list the vin which is below Barrett Jackson '68 Torino GT # 68 on the block today. 8H43Y153663 On Monday, January 13, 2020, 6:12:41 PM EST, Dave Buchanan via Groups.Io <nytrkrdave@...> wrote: My best guess is that it will bring 22,000 |