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Sliding door lock

Douglas Peterson
 

So late last year the vacuum assisted door locks stopped working on the slider door behind the passenger seat. ?I cannot get it to lock manually either. ?Any ideas on where to start? ?Thanks
 

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A common issue is that the interior door panel is misaligned and binds the lock button. ?The symptom typically looks like the door tries to lock, but bounces back to unlocked. ?

However, if there's no movement at all then the lock mechanism itself may be failing or there's an electrical connection issue.

FYI there's no "vacuum" assist that I can see - it's just motors and gears.

Here's a picture of the interior of the slider locking mechanism, showing the motor and gears



On Jul 12, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Douglas Peterson via <dpeterson253@...> wrote:

So late last year the vacuum assisted door locks stopped working on the slider door behind the passenger seat. ?I cannot get it to lock manually either. ?Any ideas on where to start? ?Thanks

 

Locks are electric, not vacuum. Pull the door card and git to it. Small white plastic clips
get brittle, levers disconnect, the electric pins (4) can get corroded.

Be careful pulling the door card off.

Ch
Douglas Peterson
 

thanks

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 10:33:32 AM MDT, Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@...> wrote:


Locks are electric, not vacuum.? Pull the door card and git to it.?
Small white plastic clips
get brittle, levers disconnect, the electric pins (4) can get corroded.

Be careful pulling the door card off.

Ch
 

I had the door lock binding with door panel scenario as mentioned in message #2. Re-glued the door panel clips/fasteners and solved the issue.


mike
2001 EVC
98,000
 

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Another common issue that I have heard about in the wiring harness between the van body and the driver’s door. Over time wires in that harness can get brittle and break.
Garry
1995, 5spd, 179,000kms.

A common issue is that the interior door panel is misaligned and binds the lock button. ?The symptom typically looks like the door tries to lock, but bounces back to unlocked. ?

However, if there's no movement at all then the lock mechanism itself may be failing or there's an electrical connection issue.

FYI there's no "vacuum" assist that I can see - it's just motors and gears.

Here's a picture of the interior of the slider locking mechanism, showing the motor and gears



On Jul 12, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Douglas Peterson via??<dpeterson253@...> wrote:

So late last year the vacuum assisted door locks stopped working on the slider door behind the passenger seat. ?I cannot get it to lock manually either. ?Any ideas on where to start? ?Thanks
Douglas Peterson
 

thanks for all the reply's. ?here in Boise it has been 90+ degrees every day, 16 days of 100+ so far this summer. ?when i lock doors with key there is a defenate click, so i will check the alignment first. ?thanks again

On Saturday, July 24, 2021, 08:49:03 PM MDT, Garry Penner via groups.io <garrypenner@...> wrote:


Another common issue that I have heard about in the wiring harness between the van body and the driver’s door. Over time wires in that harness can get brittle and break.
Garry
1995, 5spd, 179,000kms.

A common issue is that the interior door panel is misaligned and binds the lock button. ?The symptom typically looks like the door tries to lock, but bounces back to unlocked. ?

However, if there's no movement at all then the lock mechanism itself may be failing or there's an electrical connection issue.

FYI there's no "vacuum" assist that I can see - it's just motors and gears.

Here's a picture of the interior of the slider locking mechanism, showing the motor and gears



On Jul 12, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Douglas Peterson via??<dpeterson253@...> wrote:

So late last year the vacuum assisted door locks stopped working on the slider door behind the passenger seat. ?I cannot get it to lock manually either. ?Any ideas on where to start? ?Thanks
Douglas Peterson
 

Is there a video on how to remove the door panel anywhere? ?Following the Groups suggestions it appears all is working, lock moves up and down, it just wont lock.

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 08:59:59 PM MDT, Douglas Peterson via groups.io <dpeterson253@...> wrote:


thanks

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 10:33:32 AM MDT, Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@...> wrote:


Locks are electric, not vacuum.? Pull the door card and git to it.?
Small white plastic clips
get brittle, levers disconnect, the electric pins (4) can get corroded.

Be careful pulling the door card off.

Ch
 

The sliding door is held on with a number of plastic press-to-fit connectors. One side is glued to the door panel, the other side connects to holes in the metal of the door. ?Removal is simply putting something thin between the panel and the metal and prying outward. ?

On my van, the glue holding one side came loose on about 75% of the pieces, and I had to glue them back on. ?Use a really strong glue or epoxy. ?I found a hot glue gun was not strong enough. ?

You can see 4 of the connectors in this picture, all of them came un-stuck:




On Aug 16, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Douglas Peterson via <dpeterson253@...> wrote:

Is there a video on how to remove the door panel anywhere? ?Following the Groups suggestions it appears all is working, lock moves up and?down, it just wont lock.

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 08:59:59 PM MDT, Douglas Peterson via <dpeterson253@...> wrote:


thanks

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 10:33:32 AM MDT, Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@...> wrote:


Locks are electric, not vacuum. ?Pull the door card and git to it. ?
Small white plastic clips
get brittle, levers disconnect, the electric pins (4) can get corroded.

Be careful pulling the door card off.

Ch
 

and here's a photo showing the back side - locations of all the fasteners have been circled (some are present, some came unglued and fell off):
 

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On Aug 16, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote:

?and here's a photo showing the back side - locations of all the fasteners have been circled (some are present, some came unglued and fell off):

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Douglas Peterson
 

Thank you very much, got it off and fixed locking issue

On Monday, August 16, 2021, 02:31:20 PM MDT, Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote:


The sliding door is held on with a number of plastic press-to-fit connectors. One side is glued to the door panel, the other side connects to holes in the metal of the door. ?Removal is simply putting something thin between the panel and the metal and prying outward. ?

On my van, the glue holding one side came loose on about 75% of the pieces, and I had to glue them back on. ?Use a really strong glue or epoxy. ?I found a hot glue gun was not strong enough. ?

You can see 4 of the connectors in this picture, all of them came un-stuck:




On Aug 16, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Douglas Peterson via <dpeterson253@...> wrote:

Is there a video on how to remove the door panel anywhere? ?Following the Groups suggestions it appears all is working, lock moves up and?down, it just wont lock.

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021, 08:59:59 PM MDT, Douglas Peterson via <dpeterson253@...> wrote:


thanks

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021, 10:33:32 AM MDT, Carl Hansen <carl_hansen@...> wrote:


Locks are electric, not vacuum. ?Pull the door card and git to it. ?
Small white plastic clips
get brittle, levers disconnect, the electric pins (4) can get corroded.

Be careful pulling the door card off.

Ch

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