¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io
  1. Eurovanupdate
  2. Messages
Expanded Topics Messages Polls
Date
Re: NEED A VW KEY

Stuart MacMillan
 

Calm down, no need to yell! (no caps please!) Maybe you have a reason to
yell, but check with independent lock shops first. A good one will have
bought into the system that allows independents to make keys for coded
vehicles. Check the internet too.



By comparison, I had two coded keys made for a Ford Ranger last week for
$90, including programming. Still expensive, but the d**M dealer charges
for a service appointment to do the coding, that's why it costs so much from
the dealer.



Good Luck!



Stuart



_____

From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of Drew & Penny Self
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 1:44 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] NEED A VW KEY



I HAVE A 2002 EUROVAN I NEED A NEW FLIP KEY THEY WANT $242 for both parts of
the key and $90 TO PROGRAM THE KEY IN ADDITION ANY SUGGESTIONS
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

Boone
 

There are two examples of this ATF change maintenance requirement
from owner's manuals in our files section.

Go here:

and look for:
"201-HP ATF Change Requirement every 40K miles"
and
"EuroVan_2003_40kMiles_MaintenanceBook_Excerpt.pdf"

BD
'01 MV WK



--- In ev_update@..., gti_matt <gti_matt@...> wrote:

Didn't Bob W post a paqe from the owner's manual that
states "change
ATF every 40k miles"?

Not sure if Bob did but I did at one time. If I can find it again
I'll repost it. It's right out of the maintenance manual from a '00.
NEED A VW KEY

 

I HAVE A 2002 EUROVAN I NEED A NEW FLIP KEY THEY WANT $242 for both parts of
the key and $90 TO PROGRAM THE KEY IN ADDITION ANY SUGGESTIONS
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

gti_matt
 

Didn't Bob W post a paqe from the owner's manual that states "change
ATF every 40k miles"?

Not sure if Bob did but I did at one time. If I can find it again I'll repost it. It's right out of the maintenance manual from a '00.
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

efickel
 

--- In ev_update@..., "dave_king_ev" <dave_king_ev@...> wrote:

You are on the phone with a VW dealer, right? They are not VW.
No, I was in fact on the phone with Volkswagen of America, Customer
Care. It is the only avenue into VW that I can find. Ford used to have
District Managers or Reps that you contact. VW does not seem to have
any such animal.

WHY would a dealer chose NOT to do easy work that's money in their
pocket?

I don't know. I do know that when I have asked in the past about ATF
changes, I have been told not needed. I wasn't told -- no way, can't
do it -- I was told not recommended by VW. I didn't know any better
and listened to the dealers.

I do not believe it to the dealer's advantage in those instances to
recommend against service, if indeed they believed it was recommended.
I always walked away with the feeling that keeping the system closed
was intended to keep it clean. Again, now I know better. It is an easy
enough service that would generate revenue. Instead, I believe that
VWofA was negligent in adequately communicating the recommended
service for this vehicle to its dealer network.

While I am not beyond recognizing that I might have done research on
the internet to get to the bottom of this before my transmission
failed, I was let VWofA and its dealer network be the source of my
information. In retrospect, that appears to have been a mistake.

-Erich
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

dave_king_ev
 

You are on the phone with a VW dealer, right? They are not VW.

Didn't Bob W post a paqe from the owner's manual that states "change
ATF every 40k miles"?

WHY would a dealer chose NOT to do easy work that's money in their pocket?

Ask them if they will sell you Scotchgard for your seats, and a new
set of custom floor mats (and any other of that really really
complicated stuff that only a highly trained factory certified
mechanic can handle), and then find another dealer that actually wants
to help you take care of your van and won't flat out lie to your face.

--- In ev_update@..., "efickel" <EFickel@...> wrote:

Get a Bentley and show them the official maintenance schedule. You
definitely should have a Bentley regardless.

Or, ask them to show you what schedule they use that says "sealed for
life" (or whatever it is they are claiming it says).
I am on the phone with VW right now. They insist three things:

(1) Bentley is not the factory manual;
(2) The Transmission is sealed and does not require maintenance; and
(3) 125,000 is a lot of miles for a transmission.

So, where do I go to prove that the fluid should have been changed?
Unfortunately, I was unaware of this reality and trusted the service
managers in the Volkswagen Dealer Network -- obviously a mistake.

It is hard to believe that I've had two CustomerCare representatives
tell me that 125,000 miles is a lot for a vehicle. That's seems an
odd position to take.

In the meantime, the dealer wants $150 for checking the ATF level and
condition. I understand there is not a dipstick -- but really.

I am exasperated. I will have the vehicle towed to a transmission shop
tomorrow. And I doubt I will buy a VW again.

-Erich
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

 

I beg to differ with the knucklehead at VW with whom
you have been speaking. I am holding a Bentley manual in my hand
right now and it says, right at the top of the back cover.......

Ebahn Volkswagen Eurovan 1992->2003 Repair Manual
"Official Publishing Partner of Volkswagen of America"

Additionally, it has the blue and silver VW crest on the front of
the package, aw well. Using this logo without express permission
from VWoA is called trademark infringement, so he is dead wrong.
It is the official VW repair manual.

Steve Schock
EUROPARTS-San Diego
The Eurovan, Rialta & Sprinter parts source
Website: europarts-sd.com
Phone: 858-451-0020

Secure online ordering at:





efickel wrote:


Get a Bentley and show them the official maintenance schedule. You
definitely should have a Bentley regardless.

Or, ask them to show you what schedule they use that says "sealed for
life" (or whatever it is they are claiming it says).
I am on the phone with VW right now. They insist three things:

(1) Bentley is not the factory manual;
(2) The Transmission is sealed and does not require maintenance; and
(3) 125,000 is a lot of miles for a transmission.

So, where do I go to prove that the fluid should have been changed?
Unfortunately, I was unaware of this reality and trusted the service
managers in the Volkswagen Dealer Network -- obviously a mistake.

It is hard to believe that I've had two CustomerCare representatives
tell me that 125,000 miles is a lot for a vehicle. That's seems an
odd position to take.

In the meantime, the dealer wants $150 for checking the ATF level and
condition. I understand there is not a dipstick -- but really.

I am exasperated. I will have the vehicle towed to a transmission shop
tomorrow. And I doubt I will buy a VW again.

-Erich
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

efickel
 

Get a Bentley and show them the official maintenance schedule. You
definitely should have a Bentley regardless.

Or, ask them to show you what schedule they use that says "sealed for
life" (or whatever it is they are claiming it says).
I am on the phone with VW right now. They insist three things:

(1) Bentley is not the factory manual;
(2) The Transmission is sealed and does not require maintenance; and
(3) 125,000 is a lot of miles for a transmission.

So, where do I go to prove that the fluid should have been changed?
Unfortunately, I was unaware of this reality and trusted the service
managers in the Volkswagen Dealer Network -- obviously a mistake.

It is hard to believe that I've had two CustomerCare representatives
tell me that 125,000 miles is a lot for a vehicle. That's seems an
odd position to take.

In the meantime, the dealer wants $150 for checking the ATF level and
condition. I understand there is not a dipstick -- but really.

I am exasperated. I will have the vehicle towed to a transmission shop
tomorrow. And I doubt I will buy a VW again.

-Erich
Re: O2 sensor question for my 95 evc

 

--- In ev_update@..., Steve Schock <europarts@...> wrote:
Hey ! Thanks Steve...its Scott here in Indian Rocks Beach...South
of Clearwater beach,Florida :) Ok then I have one,I replaced it a
couple of years ago,I thought it closer to the front,but better get
under there now.Oh also what do you mean about "true" V-6 ?

All vehicles (not just VW) thru model year 1996 are OBD 1
These have one oxygen sensor before the cat.

All vehicles model year 1997 and later are OBD II and have
two (or more) O2 sensors. One before and one after the cat.
On most true V6 (Eurovan is not a true V6) and V8's that means
two are used for each cylinder bank, for a total of four O2
sensors.

Steve Schock
EUROPARTS-San Diego
The Eurovan, Rialta & Sprinter parts source
Website: europarts-sd.com
Phone: 858-451-0020

Secure online ordering at:






Scott wrote:

I am in the process of installing a o2 sensor over ride device
to use
HHO(Hydroxy,hydrogen) on demand device I made. MY question is
how many
o2 sensors are there ? I know that the one is located on
underside of
van ,right side near front passenger....is there another
elsewhere ?

Thank you.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: O2 sensor question for my 95 evc

 

All vehicles (not just VW) thru model year 1996 are OBD 1
These have one oxygen sensor before the cat.

All vehicles model year 1997 and later are OBD II and have
two (or more) O2 sensors. One before and one after the cat.
On most true V6 (Eurovan is not a true V6) and V8's that means
two are used for each cylinder bank, for a total of four O2 sensors.

Steve Schock
EUROPARTS-San Diego
The Eurovan, Rialta & Sprinter parts source
Website: europarts-sd.com
Phone: 858-451-0020

Secure online ordering at:






Scott wrote:


I am in the process of installing a o2 sensor over ride device to use
HHO(Hydroxy,hydrogen) on demand device I made. MY question is how many
o2 sensors are there ? I know that the one is located on underside of
van ,right side near front passenger....is there another elsewhere ?

Thank you.
15" Wheel Cover Needed for '97 EVC

 

Does anyone have any wheel covers (hubcaps) lying around? We lost one after hitting a pothole a while back.

Regards,

Sam Carter
2003 BMW 530i
1999 VW Passat
1997 VW EVC
Email: srcautos at nospam.gmail.com (delete the "nospam." and replace " at " with "@")
Re: 2003 EV MV Transmission

 

I did post it and it is still in our Files section.

I fail to understand why VW representatives are saying that an ATF change is
unnecessary.

Bob W.



In a message dated 6/26/2008 4:07:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gti_matt@... writes:

Didn't Bob W post a paqe from the owner's manual that states "change
ATF every 40k miles"?

Not sure if Bob did but I did at one time. If I can find it again I'll
repost it. It's right out of the maintenance manual from a '00.





****Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars. ()
Re: O2 sensor question for my 95 evc

 

'93 has one, later years have 2. I'm guessing '95 is also only 1.

On 6/26/08, Scott <jigsaw7@...> wrote:
I am in the process of installing a o2 sensor over ride device to use
HHO(Hydroxy,hydrogen) on demand device I made. MY question is how many
o2 sensors are there ? I know that the one is located on underside of
van ,right side near front passenger....is there another elsewhere ?

Thank you.

--
Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
O2 sensor question for my 95 evc

 

I am in the process of installing a o2 sensor over ride device to use
HHO(Hydroxy,hydrogen) on demand device I made. MY question is how many
o2 sensors are there ? I know that the one is located on underside of
van ,right side near front passenger....is there another elsewhere ?

Thank you.
Re: 3rd row seat/bed assembly.

Neil McConville
 

what I'm talking about is the infra-structure for the seats and bodies.? the company can change the "styles" all they want.? When it comes time to "bolt" it on everything should be the same.

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, gti_matt <gti_matt@...> wrote:

From: gti_matt <gti_matt@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 3rd row seat/bed assembly.
To: ev_update@...
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:34 AM






It is not cost effective to have two different styles of seats.
The MV vs. CL/GL/GLS though had a different purpose and that sometimes is justification enough. If we always took the "different styles are not cost effective" approach, every car model would have one trim line only and few/no options.


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Error Code PO172 and EPC and CEL

terryobrien1
 

Hi Folks,

I have a 02' EVC with 57,000 on it. I'm the original owner.

Recently had the EPC light come on and off. Intermittment. No error codes reported when
it illuminated. Periodically happens when driving semi-distant. Short trips it hasn't come
on.

Then had the CEL come on with a error code of PO172. I cleared the code. It came back
later that afternoon on a drive. I cleared it again and it hasn't come back yet.

Prior to this I got an error code of PO118 some time ago. I cleared that and it hasn't come
back to haunt since.

I searched the archives and found some info but still feel stumped.

Any ideas, suggestions what to chase is greatly appreciated. Especially as we are in the
season to get on the road. I prefer to deal with this myself rather than shell out the dealer
bucks.

Thanks

-Terry
02' EVC
57,000
Re: 3rd row seat/bed assembly.

gti_matt
 

It is not cost effective to have two different styles of seats.
The MV vs. CL/GL/GLS though had a different purpose and that sometimes is justification enough. If we always took the "different styles are not cost effective" approach, every car model would have one trim line only and few/no options.
Re: 3rd row seat/bed assembly.

Neil McConville
 

Steve,
?
It sounds like some more fine German engineering.? Why would VW do that?? It is not cost effective to have two different styles of seats.?
?
I had a line on the 1993 Volkswagen Eurovan GL that I want to have the 3 row bed and convert to the 1.9 diesel.
?
I only have $3,000 to spend.
?
suggestions?

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, StephenKramar <sgkramar@...> wrote:

From: Stephen Kramar <sgkramar@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 3rd row seat/bed assembly.
To: ev_update@...
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:39 PM






Basically if you want an MV set up you will have to either trade for
an MV or find a junked one. The front seat bases are different with
attachments for the center seats, center seats are different, rear
bench is different, and platform behind rear seat is different. And,
all floor attachments are different.

On 6/25/08, Neil McConville <neilmcc_98@yahoo. com> wrote:
That is why I am looking for the entire assembly. Any suggestions?

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Stephen Kramar <sgkramar@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Stephen Kramar <sgkramar@gmail. com>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 3rd row seat/bed assembly.
To: ev_update@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:21 PM






You would need to add tracks to the floor at least, not sure what
else. Without the back padded area behind the rear seat it would be a
small bed. Also, the MV has the center seats mounted backwards so that
there is enough room to pull the rear bench forward. You would have to
remove the center seat(s) to open the bed.

So, I'm thinking this would be a major change.

On 6/25/08, neilmcc_98 <neilmcc_98@ yahoo. com> wrote:
Thanks for the info. Being that I have the GLS, Can a get the MV and
Weekended rear seat to retro-fit?

Do you know where I can get a used 3rd row seat/bed assembly?

Thanks again,
Neil

--- In ev_update@yahoogrou ps.com, gti_matt <gti_matt@.. .> wrote:

The MV and Weekender rear seat is the same...folds out into a bed.
A
recycler would be your best bet.

The GLS seat is the same width but with more contours and does not
make into a sleeper.

The GLS seat vs. the MV/MV Weekender seats also have entirely
different mountings as well. Won't interchange.

--
Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google. com



















--
Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google. com
Re: Curtain question

gti_matt
 

I have been looking for a front curtain for my 01 and have found some one
with a set from a 99.

I can't say for sure about 99 to 01 but I can tell you that curtains from a '93 fit my '00 just fine, so I'm inclined to believe that VW kept the curtain snap location the same across all non-Weekender MVs.
Re: tow package contents?

gti_matt
 

Not positive, but I am guessing it is just the hitch and wiring. The only options available for my model year were heated seats and a sunroof. The brochure did not list a tow package.
This is correct. There was no "tow package" for the Eurovan. It's merely owners that are taking creative liberties and literary license with their description of the tow hitch they fitted.
60201 - 60220 of 165076