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EVC 97 VR6 - Engine Problem
Joan Booker
Hi Folks,
Has anyone encountered this problem. Although we'd love some feedback we hope no one has. We have 53k miles on the engine. We never had any problems and all service has been performed as required. All of a sudden the engine started pounding like a diesel engine. VW is going to have to tear it down, they think it could be a bearing or the camshaft chain. This engine does not have a belt,it is a chain and requires no maintenance. Thanks JB EVC-97 |
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Coughing VR6 update
Each case could be different, but here's the latest on mine:
The diagnostic codes logged when the check engine light came on were for ramdom misfires and misfire on cyl. 5. Both occurred at about 70 mph under a moderate load, which matches the codes logged from the prior incidents. Cyl. 5 already had a new plug and plug wire, and a new ignition coil pack was installed in February, so the FLVWD had to dig deeper. After a few hours of testing and tinkering, the problem was diagnosed as a dirty throttle body (caked with carbon), which was impairing the function of the throttle control module. Diagnostics also showed wide fluctuations in the mass air flow, which are supposed to be relatively steady. The throttle control module will usually "actuate" on command during a diagnostic test, but mine wouldn't. After cleaning out the carbon and checking all connections, the actuation worked, the mass air flow stabilized to normal levels, and the idle seems smoother than before, even though it wasn't too bad before. They added a can of BG44K fuel additive for more cleaning. According to the tech, problems with the throttle control module can manifest themselves in various intermittent electronic glitches, from misfires to no A/C to hard starting, etc. He also checked the EGR valve and it operated normally. Does this diagnosis solve the problem? Time will tell, and I'll post to the list if it recurs. Meanwhile, I'm interested in what the others find out about their coughs. Could this be what is afflicting the others? Tough to say. I've got 35k miles. However, I use mid-grade unleaded gas with detergent additives, usually from Conoco or Texaco, I add a bottle of fuel system cleaner a few times a year, and I get service at the suggested intervals (including the major 30k service 6 months ago), so I didn't expect the throttle to be dirty. Neither did the FLVWD apparently, since this was the third trip to the shop for the same problem, and this wasn't checked before. 3k or 4k miles for you other coughers might seem to be too soon, but it is at least possible that a problem could arise in so few miles. Finally, to make good on my pledge to report good service as well as bad: Ed Carroll Motors in Fort Collins charged only $17.50 labor for the diagnostics and cleaning the throttle. Granted, my EVC was in for its third visit since January for the same problem, but I was expecting a MUCH bigger bill under the circumstances. Joel Funk 97 EVC |
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Coughing VR6 update
Each case could be different, but here's the latest on mine:
The diagnostic codes logged when the check engine light came on were for ramdom misfires and misfire on cyl. 5. Both occurred at about 70 mph under a moderate load, which matches the codes logged from the prior incidents. Cyl. 5 already had a new plug and plug wire, and a new ignition coil pack was installed in February, so the FLVWD had to dig deeper. After a few hours of testing and tinkering, the problem was diagnosed as a dirty throttle body (caked with carbon), which was impairing the function of the throttle control module. Diagnostics also showed wide fluctuations in the mass air flow, which are supposed to be relatively steady. The throttle control module will usually "actuate" on command during a diagnostic test, but mine wouldn't. After cleaning out the carbon and checking all connections, the actuation worked, the mass air flow stabilized to normal levels, and the idle seems smoother than before, even though it wasn't too bad before. They added a can of BG44K fuel additive for more cleaning. According to the tech, problems with the throttle control module can manifest themselves in various intermittent electronic glitches, from misfires to no A/C to hard starting, etc. He also checked the EGR valve and it operated normally. Does this diagnosis solve the problem? Time will tell, and I'll post to the list if it recurs. Meanwhile, I'm interested in what the others find out about their coughs. Could this be what is afflicting the others? Tough to say. I've got 35k miles. However, I use mid-grade unleaded gas with detergent additives, usually from Conoco or Texaco, I add a bottle of fuel system cleaner a few times a year, and I get service at the suggested intervals (including the major 30k service 6 months ago), so I didn't expect the throttle to be dirty. Neither did the FLVWD apparently, since this was the third trip to the shop for the same problem, and this wasn't checked before. 3k or 4k miles for you other coughers might seem to be too soon, but it is at least possible that a problem could arise in so few miles. Finally, to make good on my pledge to report good service as well as bad: Ed Carroll Motors in Fort Collins charged only $17.50 labor for the diagnostics and cleaning the throttle. Granted, my EVC was in for its third visit since January for the same problem, but I was expecting a MUCH bigger bill under the circumstances. Joel Funk 97 EVC |
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Re: Aux Battery
Richard Cochran
--- In ev_update@..., "Mark Stephenson" <stephenson@a...>
wrote: I still have a problem charging my aux. battery. The 3 post 1. What am I missing?You're very, very close. You have two choices: Figure out why 12V isn't reaching that wire, or connect the solenoid to another switched 12V connection. To do the first, it would be easiest if you had a wiring diagram for your year's EV. I'd start looking in the Bently manual. But it sounds like you're thinking about the second option. 2. Can the wire to the solenoid center post go to any switched 12vI don't see why not. It will draw very little current. Of course, it must be a switched circuit that is not energized when the engine is off. For safety's sake, the solenoid should take its power from something DOWNSTREAM of a fuse, so that the fuse will protect you if there's ever a short circuit in the solenoid. Which brings up the point -- it wouldn't hurt to check your fuses for continuity, on the off chance that a blown fuse is causing your trouble. Offhand, I'm not sure which circuit that solenoid is powered from, though. --Rich |
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Re: are newer EV T4 chassis still
Michael G. McCarthy
Sorry, sent the wrong url. ?Here's the right one:
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http://automedia-online.com/spion/e_000192.htm ---------- From: "Michael G. McCarthy" To: ev_update@... Subject: Re: [ev_update] are newer EV T4 chassis still Date: Wed, May 24, 2000, 3:24 PM http://automedia-online.com/e_spion.htm |
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Let's go camping CONTINUED and info online
Team Degenerate Motorsports
A few of you replied and are interested - GREAT!!! Must be more than
that NO? I started a page with info: I'll be there - let's get a list of people signed up and begin reserving some spots soon. I will be down there next week to see which areas with availibilty left are the better ones. Bill 93 Weekender - trying out the side tent for the first time this weekend at Lime Rock Park!!! |
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Re: are newer EV T4 chassis still
Michael G. McCarthy
http://automedia-online.com/e_spion.htm
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Check that out. ?What's a 2.3 litre VR5 engine? Mike ---------- From: "Michael G. McCarthy" To: ev_update@... Subject: Re: [ev_update] are newer EV T4 chassis still Date: Wed, May 24, 2000, 3:19 PM http://automedia-online.com/spion/e_000112.htm |
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Re: are newer EV T4 chassis still
Michael G. McCarthy
http://automedia-online.com/spion/e_000112.htm
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Sort of looks like a cross between the new Honda mini-van and the EV, with some Passat thrown in. ?Looks good, but is sure looks smaller on the inside. ?One of the EVs best point, imo, is that it gives you a large interior without having to get a large van. ?I hope the T5 doesn't sacrifice the large interior for the more stylish lines. Mike ---------- From: "RocknRolz" To: Subject: Re: [ev_update] are newer EV T4 chassis still Date: Wed, May 24, 2000, 2:05 PM > are the newer Ev's T4 still considered T4 or is VW now on T5??? |
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Re: Checking transmission fluid in V6?
Thanks Donald for your reply. My 99 auto transmission has the fill plug in
the top of a tube about 2 inches above the pan area. I suppose that that is to set the proper level when it dribbles out. I wonder why they would need to hook up the VAG 1551 scanner while filling. The plug has double O rings and looks as though it it is reusable. It also has a red safety band to prevent the plug from popping out. Since mine is noisy when cold I suppose I should top it off. I was just worried about overfilling. Thanks again John Frazev@... |
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Swivel Seat vs. Middle Bench - elegant solution
Andy Kemp
I have a front swivel seat from my wrecked 95 EVC for sale.
This could be a neat solution to the EVC's "campability vs. seating capacity" issue. I've used my other front seat as a much superior substitute for the legendary middle bench. I had it installed behind the front passenger seat and next to the side door with custom, hand-removable bolts. It's a great solution to the problems of the middle bench: * it's much more comfortable * you don't have to remove it to camp * it allows access to fridge and cupboard * 5 passenger van capacity - you can actually converse with the person sitting in the seat (the rear bench is a long way back!) If anyone is interested in buying it, please let me know. Bear in mind that packing & shipping from Indiana could be a $200 proposition (I haven't been able to figure out how to dismantle it so that it can be shipped UPS) Also, unless you do it yourself, the labor to install it could be be in the $150 - $200 range too. (4 bolt recepticles welded into the floor of the van, plus custom bolts) I'd be willing to sell the seat for $200. Andy |
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Re: are newer EV T4 chassis still
RocknRolz
are the newer Ev's T4 still considered T4 or is VW now on T5???VW is working on the T5 but all the EVs are T4. For a spy picture of the new T5 check the following link: Then scroll down to "VW Transporter T5" and you see two pictures of the T5. I have no idea if they are real. Eckhard |
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Re: Floor Console/Window Vent Things. HELP ('97 EVC)
Sheldon H. Winick
Joan,
I bought the floor console and the window vents from AOLSteve.shelf that's currently in there.I ordered that floor console last year also for our '97 EVC, hoping to add some additional front storage space. Unfortunately, the floor console DOES require removal of the storage shelf in the '97 EVC. Any additional storage space gained by the floor shelf would be more than lost with removal of the storage shelf. For our purposes, the storage shelf was more useful so we returned the floor console. For those folks who do not have the storage shelf, the floor console would be a nice addition as it definitely has a OEM appearance. Sheldon '97 EVC |
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Re: 2000 EVC Window Shopping
Russ Bishop
Greetings All,
For those who are interested, I just saw a new 2000 EVC at Barber VW in Ventura, CA this am. Sticker was the usual $36k or so, but when we got our 99 Barber was an AutobyTel rep and sold them at 5% over dealer invoice. It appears to be exactly the same layout as the 99 (dash, upholstery, kitchen, etc.) although the Norcold has a nicely re-designed sticker on the front (hmmm...maybe they've made that burner box a little easier to get to?). Russ Bishop Ventura, CA 99 EVC |
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