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Re: Dextron II not Available

jeff_westy <[email protected]>
 

Dexron III is actually a test specification from General Motors. The
reason Dex II or IIE isn't on the bottle is because it would then
have to be tested to that version of the specification (i.e. it
would co$t). But since the Dex III spec is an evolution of prior
specs, you should be okay. I believe they actually have the same
base-stock for the oil, but different additive packages.

Jeff

--- In ev_update@..., "erdnasx <adihome@w...>"
<adihome@w...> wrote:
Hello,
I try to change my transmission fluid.
At Murrays or Autozone the in the manual recommended ATF Dextron
or
Dextron II is not available anymore. They only sell the Dextron
III.
Can this also be used on my tranny?
'93 eurovan 2,5l
thanx
补苍诲谤é


Re: What came standard with a 2002 MV?

jeff_westy <[email protected]>
 

The '03's are the same... check out vw.com



Jeff


--- In ev_update@..., Lee Hart <leeahart@e...> wrote:
Hello, everyone

I just bought a used Eurovan. In hunting around the web, I came
across
this email list and decided to join. Please forgive me for any
errors in
asking questions about things everyone already knows, and let me
know
(politely) if I am breaking any rules on etiquette.

I assume "EV" is short for EuroVan? I happen to be a big fan of the
other kind of EV (Electric Cars), so it will be a source of
confusion
for me!

I bought a 2002 MV with 15k miles on it for (hopefully) the good
price
of $22,200 from Burnsville VW in Minnesota. Like too many used
cars, the
previous owners had stripped it of everything loose that could be
removed without tools, including the owner's manual. The dealer
ordered
one for me, but in the meantime I am having to discover things by
trial
and error. That means I don't even know what I may be missing. So
my
first question is: Can anyone tell me what items I should have
gotten
but didn't?
--
Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard
Cohen


Re: Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?

 

Mike and Norman,

Thanks for responding to my posting. Glad to see that I'm not the only one
that thinks this way. To be honest, I've actually put a car for sale in the
paper once before and immediately changed my mind so when people called I
just said it was sold (again to me!) My wife never believes me anymore when
I take her shopping for cars.

In reality, it would take a very good deal from the VW dealer on the '03 MV
to get me to part with my trusty '93 MV. Currently the '03 vehicle they have
lists for $28,660 (MV + paint+ destination) and they have reduced it to
$26,900 and suggest there is more room. They say this price is $400 over
invoice. No 0% financing deals like Chrysler or the others. If they had that
I'd immediately take the plunge. I also have to add 6% NJ sales tax-ouch!
That alone more than pays for the entire timing belt water pump job at my
local VW dealer. I may call again tomorrow and see if they have anything
else to offer.

Ron


Re: What is that smell?

 

I'll monitor the smell and report back to the group...

Interesting that I could not get up my driveway going forward but I had no
trouble going backward. I suspect I'll be going backward up the driveway
quite a bit this winter.

Steve
'99 EVC (back from Germany)

----- Original Message -----
From: <wsarmstron@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] What is that smell?


In a message dated 12/13/02 10:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
swertheim@... writes:

But when I got to the top, I noticed a burned kind of smell - almost
like
rubber. I don't think my tires were spinning.
Could I be damaging the transmission doing this? Would it smell if the
transmission were overworked?
Steve -

I get a smell like that when the EVC has been chugging up a very steep
hill in a lower gear, or even when accelerating to pass another vehicle on
a
two-way highway. I think I also get it when compression braking coming
down
NYS Route 329 in your back yard, where I need to limit the speed to avoid
dumping into the gorge at that 90 degree turn just before entering Watkins
Glen village.
In my case, it's almost as if these situations cause the relatively
unused parts of my car (1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear, as opposed to Drive) to
give
off a "new car odor" whenever they are exercised. <Mike will be quick to
tell you that my Reverse gear is well broken in, and I should not
experience
the particular problem that you reported.>
I can understand why the transmission might be making a smell under
these
conditions, but how does the odor enter the passenger area so quickly when
the van is in motion and the external air flow should be dispersing the
odors
away from the van?

Bill Armstrong
2001 EVC, "Dream Weaver", 3111 miles (and holding)
Endwell, NY
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Re: Is Satellite radio worth it?

 

My 2 cents: XM radio is incredible! I had the antenna installed under the
cowling on the top front of the car. The received hooked right into my
existing SONY radio. Had it installed a few months ago for free.

I like the selection of talk radio and the variety of music. I live waay in
the country - in the finger lakes of upstate New York. There is almost NO
radio up here. The NPR signal comes and goes with the terrain. I commute
between 1 and 2 hours each day and the XM signal is always right there - no
dropoffs. I took the EVC to Canada in September. The XM signal was strong
at 4 hours north of Toronto! I can't imagine life without XM radio.

Steve
'99 EVC (back from Germany)

----- Original Message -----
From: "KP" <kaveh@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:08 AM
Subject: [ev_update] Is Satellite radio worth it?


With all the travelers on this list, I would guess there would be a couple
who have satellite
radio. I'd like to get some opinions on either Sirius or XM radio.



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Re: Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Ron,

I'm going through the same math, with the same engine/drivetrain and
identical miles. I'm shooting for 200K and another four or five years,
which only gets my kids into high school (when they will stop having fun in
the back of the van singing songs with each other anyway, probably).

BTW, I love the idea of the shed.

I'd add that you/we should expect to replace the A/C compressor and the
clutch, both big jobs where parts aren't bad but labor is high (unless you
do it yourself, of course).

Other bolt-ons (power steering pump, power steering rack, alternator,
starter) could also fail but none of those will be too expensive or too hard
to replace.

My timing chain was replaced at 70K (by the previous owner under his 75K
extended warranty) so I'll probably have to do that again. Next summer or
maybe the summer after that I expect to do it all.....pull the front of the
motor apart and replace all the belts and spinning things; pull the
transmission and replace the clutch and all the other wear items (I already
bought two NEW outer CV joints that Steve at europarts-sd.com tells me are
among the last NEW ones anywhere, only rebuilts will be available soon).
Also, I'll replace any coolant hoses and hose fittings with new ones (and
I've got NO problem with plastic OEM parts....they last 10 years or more;
what's to complain about?).

Otherwise, the basic "box" is in good shape...only a little rust, suspension
stuff is still tight as are doors and weather stripping and virtually the
entire interior is near perfect. Electrically--mirrors and fans and cruise
control and etc etc--is all working.

Piston slap. Still got it, it still goes away when warm. It sounds a
little worse, but my every-10K-oil-analysis says engine wear is modest.
Compression and fuel mileage is still very good.

When all is said and done, as long as the engine is holding up and the
control systems are OK (the EV will be a shed in the backyard in a heartbeat
if the 10,000 miles of computer controlled wiring suddenly gets flaky) I'll
keep it on the road.

Of course, as soon as I get that phone call from Bill Armstrong, all bets
are off.

To all - opinions sought:
My questions:
1. Am I being widely optimistic to expect 250 K miles service life from this
powertrain ('93 EV with 2.5 liter 5 cylinder gasoline engine with 5 speed
manual transmission) without the need for rebuild?
2. How much longer will dealers be offering new '03 EVs since I understand
they are out of production? The one I am looking at was built 6/02. Is
this one one the last batches? Maybe VW made a bunch and intends to keep
trickling them into the USA through the model year so they can maintain
profitable pricing. On the other hand since the new Micro bus is probably a
year or so away they probably will have a year gap in havin a van on the
market as they did with the Vanagon to Eurovan transition.

More info:
I am once again weighing the purchase of a beautiful new '03 EV MV (dark
green) versus cost to keep up my old '93 EV MV. Whenever I do this (and I
seem to do it at least once a year and thus drive my wife crazy) the old Aqua
Blue EV wins out. My assumption is always that if I keep changing the oil
regularly and change the belts and coolant hoses before they break then my
old trusty EV will easily hit this mark. Of course it might start to look
like a rusty bucket but I am not hung up on having a shiny car and can handle
most maintenence myself. I'm now at 134K miles and given I put on about
15K per year I estimate a remaining life of about 8 more years. This will
bring me through 2010 ( and almost through college years for my 3 kids) and
after that I will certainly be done with it and can park it on my brothers
property in upstate New York and use it as a small permanent outdoor shed:-)
Main role for my EV currently and projected through 2010 is to be my daily
commuter (15 RT) plus serve as the family hauler for annual North Carolina
vacation plus any trips where all five of us would be tight in our '00 Jetta
TDI. I try to use the Jetta for local trips as much as possible to avoid
wear and tear on the EV and minimize fuel cost. I am estimating spending on
average $1000 to keep the van going over the next 8 years. This assumes no
major rebuild of the powertrain components except to replace CV joints.
Current value is 4-5K. I also have a '74 Lotus Europa in my garage that one
day will run again and be my back up commuter car if the EV needs to be down
for repairs (don't laugh!).

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Ron

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Re: Is Satellite radio worth it?

Ed Davis <[email protected]>
 

I have Sirius radio, and I love it. Even though I live in the Boston
area, which has lots of great stations, I rarely listen to
conventional radio. The variety and programming quality on Sirius is
much better, and you don't get the commercials.

Didn't know the NPR channels didn't include some of the popular
shows. I got Sirius because it had NPR, but it's the Better Half who
is the real NPR fan. Nobody tell her!

Ed
'99 EVC


--- In ev_update@y..., "KP" <kaveh@o...> wrote:
With all the travelers on this list, I would guess there would be
a
couple who have satellite
radio. I'd like to get some opinions on either Sirius or XM radio.


Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?

 

To all - opinions sought:
My questions:
1. Am I being widely optimistic to expect 250 K miles service life from this
powertrain ('93 EV with 2.5 liter 5 cylinder gasoline engine with 5 speed
manual transmission) without the need for rebuild?
2. How much longer will dealers be offering new '03 EVs since I understand
they are out of production? The one I am looking at was built 6/02. Is
this one one the last batches? Maybe VW made a bunch and intends to keep
trickling them into the USA through the model year so they can maintain
profitable pricing. On the other hand since the new Micro bus is probably a
year or so away they probably will have a year gap in havin a van on the
market as they did with the Vanagon to Eurovan transition.

More info:
I am once again weighing the purchase of a beautiful new '03 EV MV (dark
green) versus cost to keep up my old '93 EV MV. Whenever I do this (and I
seem to do it at least once a year and thus drive my wife crazy) the old Aqua
Blue EV wins out. My assumption is always that if I keep changing the oil
regularly and change the belts and coolant hoses before they break then my
old trusty EV will easily hit this mark. Of course it might start to look
like a rusty bucket but I am not hung up on having a shiny car and can handle
most maintenence myself. I'm now at 134K miles and given I put on about
15K per year I estimate a remaining life of about 8 more years. This will
bring me through 2010 ( and almost through college years for my 3 kids) and
after that I will certainly be done with it and can park it on my brothers
property in upstate New York and use it as a small permanent outdoor shed:-)
Main role for my EV currently and projected through 2010 is to be my daily
commuter (15 RT) plus serve as the family hauler for annual North Carolina
vacation plus any trips where all five of us would be tight in our '00 Jetta
TDI. I try to use the Jetta for local trips as much as possible to avoid
wear and tear on the EV and minimize fuel cost. I am estimating spending on
average $1000 to keep the van going over the next 8 years. This assumes no
major rebuild of the powertrain components except to replace CV joints.
Current value is 4-5K. I also have a '74 Lotus Europa in my garage that one
day will run again and be my back up commuter car if the EV needs to be down
for repairs (don't laugh!).

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Ron


Re: Master Clutch Cylinder replacement

Harry Pinchot
 

Fill the clutch master cylinder then open the bleeder on the slave cylinder
and allow the fluid to run down and out the slave cylinder bleeder. Be sure
you have sufficient fluid to refill the clutch master at least twice. Unlike
brake master cylinders clutch master cylinders do not have any valves so
pumping the pedal is often futile.

Harry P.

Bill Barber wrote:

I have managed to change the master cylinder on the clutch. Now I am
having trouble getting pressure. I imagine that I need to bleed the air
out of the lines, correct? Is there a trick to this?

Thanks,
Bill Barber
Toronto

'94 EV GLS 2.4l diesel, 5 spd manual

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Re: jacking

 

In a message dated 12/9/02 10:41:52 PM, mgmccarthy@... writes:

<< OTOH, I haven't had an actual "flat tire" in probably 10 years so perhaps
it's time to re-evaluate my tired old "rules of thumb." >>

Quickly knock on wood!

Ron


Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

 

In a message dated 12/14/02 6:27:50 PM, Sea2river@... writes:

<< I recommend you consider the GLS. I think your family
will be happier with the GLS. If you decide to camp, you can get a tent. >>

Bob,
I hear you about the rear facing seats causing some limitations but I must
also add that my 14, 13 and 11 year old children have a great time in the
back of our MV. We set up our ibook computer on the table (with velcro feet)
and they have a small movie theater. The snap on curtains are also great to
block out light for the early morning vacation trips and to park the van in
the hot sun. I'm still sold on the MV layout .

Ron
'93 EV MV


Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

 

In a message dated 12/15/2002 1:32:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Iamthere4Iam@... writes:

my 2000 doesn't have a tilt steering wheel.
None do.


What came standard with a 2002 MV?

 

Hello, everyone

I just bought a used Eurovan. In hunting around the web, I came across
this email list and decided to join. Please forgive me for any errors in
asking questions about things everyone already knows, and let me know
(politely) if I am breaking any rules on etiquette.

I assume "EV" is short for EuroVan? I happen to be a big fan of the
other kind of EV (Electric Cars), so it will be a source of confusion
for me!

I bought a 2002 MV with 15k miles on it for (hopefully) the good price
of $22,200 from Burnsville VW in Minnesota. Like too many used cars, the
previous owners had stripped it of everything loose that could be
removed without tools, including the owner's manual. The dealer ordered
one for me, but in the meantime I am having to discover things by trial
and error. That means I don't even know what I may be missing. So my
first question is: Can anyone tell me what items I should have gotten
but didn't?
--
Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring
814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering
Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything
leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen


Re: 93 GL vs MV differences?

 

In a message dated 12/15/02 1:33:20 AM, Bob@... writes:

<< What other standard features, or available options, distinguish
the three trim levels? Where can I look for a list? >>

Bob,
The CL was the most basic model and was a real value when the '93 EV came out
at about 17K. The seats are a different material on the CL versus the GL.
They are a more basic looking cloth with vinyl back versus the GL's more
pattered velour look. The MV had it's own grey fuzzy cloth seats with
multicolor speckle pattern . The CL lacks some of the convenience features
of the GL and MV models. AC and power features (windows, door locks, mirrors
) were optional on the CL. The GL and MV had standard AC. The power
features were optional on the GL but standard on the MV. Interestingly if
the CL did not have AC you would get left and right sliding side windows
standard - a nice feature plus as a bonus you would never have the AC
headaches many had on the GL and MV. The sliding windows are sadly missing
on the GL model but a left side became optional after some time. MV had both
sliding windows standard. CL and GL both have the forward facing center
bench seat that can fold forward to have a flat surface. Rear seat tilts and
tumbles but requires removing bolts to take out. MV is the base for the
weekender with the rear facing seats and table as you already know. The MV
also gets the snap on curtains - a nice feature even if not using for
camping. The MV listed for around 24K when new. The weekemder package (
refrig, sliding curtains, pop top with upper bed, screens) added to the MV
was the most expensive at around 26K. All had the exact same engine and
transmissions (5 spd and automatic). I believe 5 spds are rarer although
since only about 10,000 units came to the USA all models are now rare.

IMO, the basic CL was the best model. I ended up grabbing an MV in 1994
when VW offerered steep incentives ($4K!) to deplete unsold '93 inventory.
Now if only they would do that on the '03 models :-) - very doubtful I
suppose.

Ron


Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

noneofyour damnbusiness
 

I'm 6'-1", and plenty comfortable even with an added lumbar support in the seat.

However, my 2000 doesn't have a tilt steering wheel.

Have fun,

Greg

***
From: "John Sennett" <sennett@...>
Reply-To: ev_update@...
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: RE: [ev_update] New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 21:42:13 -0500

If you are over 6 ft in height you may not get enough rearward
adjustment of the driver's seat in the MV for you to have a comfortable
driving position. That is a determining factor if ever there was one -
if you are long legged.
John Sennett

-----Original Message-----
From: tnkenyon <todd.kenyon@...>
[mailto:todd.kenyon@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:04 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

Finally pulling the trigger on our new EV Monday. The Lease deals
from VW too good to pass up. We had decided on an MV in Tornado red,
but now the dealer can't find any. So we would have to settle for
silver, or get a GLS if we want the red. I am soliciting any advice
that might help with the choice, specifically
advantages/disadvantages of GLS vs MV. We have 3 little ones, 6
months, 3 1/2, 5. EV will be mostly be used for carpooling with a
couple of highway trips each year, no camping plans at this time.
The main attraction of the MV was the easy access to all the rear
seats, although I do have some reservations about the limited
recline of the front seats and the effectiveness of the shared
headrests. GLS will lease for $30 less a month. We liked the red
since it is nice and sporty looking, although I've never actualy
seen a tornado red EV in person, only in photos. I've seen the color
on Golfs. Any comments appreciated. Thanks!


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93 GL vs MV differences?

 

What are the differences between a 93 CL, GL, and MV (non-Weekender)?
The MV obviously has the rear-facing seats and table on the left wall.
What other standard features, or available options, distinguish
the three trim levels? Where can I look for a list?
Thanks for the info!
--
Bob Sutterfield
'93 VW T4 EV MV 5-spd (hunting)
'87 BMW E30 325iS #1129 DAS KAR
'88 BMW E28 535iS #154 IHR FUNF
BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter


Re: newby seeks honest opinion on operating costs

 

Check the archives. Tires - hard to find, frequently need to order,
high dollar. Many "common" parts only available from the dealer (at
top dollar). At least on the new EVs, at least some of the owners
report lousy mileage. A recent request from a potential buyer on
this group regarding dependablity of the EV brough messages, even
from fans of the vehicle, that dependabliity is NOT a strong pont of
the vehicle. Working on it will take money, at least for parts and
if you don't have the time, talent and tools you'll be buying a
mechanic a new car.

--- In ev_update@..., "earlena_2 <earlena_2@y...>"
<earlena_2@y...> wrote:
Hello, my family and I are looking to buy a westfalia. Of course
the
first question that comes up is to get a vanagon or a eurovan?
THere
are of course many pros and cons to each which I have gathered from
the various websites, but I see little direct information from
owners
regarding the actual operating costs for both versions. We have
currently narrowed it down to a vanagon 88-91 or westfalia eurovan
conversion. Currently we are looking at a very nice 93 eurovan
westy. However, advice I received from a local mechanic kind of
scared me a bit. His opinion, that there were a number of designs
flaws with these early modals, and that parts are very expensive
and
often difficult to obtain, especially when your out on the road and
experience a serious breakdown. So... I would appreciate hearing
from those of you who have direct experience with this model,
especially the camper conversion.

THank you,

Michael (earlena)


Towing '92 and later Eurovans

 

I desire to tow a Eurovan behind an RV. I have a feeling that I would
have to find a standard transmission model (92-95) but I wonder if
anyone has put a Transmission Lube Pump on an automatic transmisson
equipped Eurovan.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Bill


2002 EV Weekender Dealer Demo

George Grenier <[email protected]>
 

I came across a maroon 02 EV Weekender at the dealer yesterday while
picking up oil filters. The tag in the window was $26K, seemed clean.
It was Mohegan Lake VW in Northern Westchester, NY.
Just thought someone may be looking.
George
02 EVC
Katonah, NY


Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

John Sennett
 

If you are over 6 ft in height you may not get enough rearward
adjustment of the driver's seat in the MV for you to have a comfortable
driving position. That is a determining factor if ever there was one -
if you are long legged.
John Sennett

-----Original Message-----
From: tnkenyon <todd.kenyon@...>
[mailto:todd.kenyon@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:04 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...

Finally pulling the trigger on our new EV Monday. The Lease deals
from VW too good to pass up. We had decided on an MV in Tornado red,
but now the dealer can't find any. So we would have to settle for
silver, or get a GLS if we want the red. I am soliciting any advice
that might help with the choice, specifically
advantages/disadvantages of GLS vs MV. We have 3 little ones, 6
months, 3 1/2, 5. EV will be mostly be used for carpooling with a
couple of highway trips each year, no camping plans at this time.
The main attraction of the MV was the easy access to all the rear
seats, although I do have some reservations about the limited
recline of the front seats and the effectiveness of the shared
headrests. GLS will lease for $30 less a month. We liked the red
since it is nice and sporty looking, although I've never actualy
seen a tornado red EV in person, only in photos. I've seen the color
on Golfs. Any comments appreciated. Thanks!


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