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Re: Dextron II not Available
jeff_westy <[email protected]>
Dexron III is actually a test specification from General Motors. The
reason Dex II or IIE isn't on the bottle is because it would then have to be tested to that version of the specification (i.e. it would co$t). But since the Dex III spec is an evolution of prior specs, you should be okay. I believe they actually have the same base-stock for the oil, but different additive packages. Jeff --- In ev_update@..., "erdnasx <adihome@w...>" <adihome@w...> wrote: Hello,or Dextron II is not available anymore. They only sell the DextronIII. Can this also be used on my tranny? |
Re: What came standard with a 2002 MV?
jeff_westy <[email protected]>
The '03's are the same... check out vw.com
Jeff --- In ev_update@..., Lee Hart <leeahart@e...> wrote: Hello, everyoneacross this email list and decided to join. Please forgive me for anyerrors in asking questions about things everyone already knows, and let meknow (politely) if I am breaking any rules on etiquette.confusion for me!price of $22,200 from Burnsville VW in Minnesota. Like too many usedcars, the previous owners had stripped it of everything loose that could beordered one for me, but in the meantime I am having to discover things bytrial and error. That means I don't even know what I may be missing. Somy first question is: Can anyone tell me what items I should havegotten but didn't?Cohen |
Re: Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?
Mike and Norman,
Thanks for responding to my posting. Glad to see that I'm not the only one that thinks this way. To be honest, I've actually put a car for sale in the paper once before and immediately changed my mind so when people called I just said it was sold (again to me!) My wife never believes me anymore when I take her shopping for cars. In reality, it would take a very good deal from the VW dealer on the '03 MV to get me to part with my trusty '93 MV. Currently the '03 vehicle they have lists for $28,660 (MV + paint+ destination) and they have reduced it to $26,900 and suggest there is more room. They say this price is $400 over invoice. No 0% financing deals like Chrysler or the others. If they had that I'd immediately take the plunge. I also have to add 6% NJ sales tax-ouch! That alone more than pays for the entire timing belt water pump job at my local VW dealer. I may call again tomorrow and see if they have anything else to offer. Ron |
Re: What is that smell?
I'll monitor the smell and report back to the group...
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Interesting that I could not get up my driveway going forward but I had no trouble going backward. I suspect I'll be going backward up the driveway quite a bit this winter. Steve '99 EVC (back from Germany) ----- Original Message -----
From: <wsarmstron@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [ev_update] What is that smell? In a message dated 12/13/02 10:27:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,like arubber. I don't think my tires were spinning.Steve - two-way highway. I think I also get it when compression braking comingdown NYS Route 329 in your back yard, where I need to limit the speed to avoidgive off a "new car odor" whenever they are exercised. <Mike will be quick toexperience the particular problem that you reported.>these conditions, but how does the odor enter the passenger area so quickly whenodors away from the van? |
Re: Is Satellite radio worth it?
My 2 cents: XM radio is incredible! I had the antenna installed under the
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cowling on the top front of the car. The received hooked right into my existing SONY radio. Had it installed a few months ago for free. I like the selection of talk radio and the variety of music. I live waay in the country - in the finger lakes of upstate New York. There is almost NO radio up here. The NPR signal comes and goes with the terrain. I commute between 1 and 2 hours each day and the XM signal is always right there - no dropoffs. I took the EVC to Canada in September. The XM signal was strong at 4 hours north of Toronto! I can't imagine life without XM radio. Steve '99 EVC (back from Germany) ----- Original Message -----
From: "KP" <kaveh@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:08 AM Subject: [ev_update] Is Satellite radio worth it? With all the travelers on this list, I would guess there would be a couplewho have satellite radio. I'd like to get some opinions on either Sirius or XM radio. |
Re: Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?
Michael G. McCarthy
Ron,
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I'm going through the same math, with the same engine/drivetrain and identical miles. I'm shooting for 200K and another four or five years, which only gets my kids into high school (when they will stop having fun in the back of the van singing songs with each other anyway, probably). BTW, I love the idea of the shed. I'd add that you/we should expect to replace the A/C compressor and the clutch, both big jobs where parts aren't bad but labor is high (unless you do it yourself, of course). Other bolt-ons (power steering pump, power steering rack, alternator, starter) could also fail but none of those will be too expensive or too hard to replace. My timing chain was replaced at 70K (by the previous owner under his 75K extended warranty) so I'll probably have to do that again. Next summer or maybe the summer after that I expect to do it all.....pull the front of the motor apart and replace all the belts and spinning things; pull the transmission and replace the clutch and all the other wear items (I already bought two NEW outer CV joints that Steve at europarts-sd.com tells me are among the last NEW ones anywhere, only rebuilts will be available soon). Also, I'll replace any coolant hoses and hose fittings with new ones (and I've got NO problem with plastic OEM parts....they last 10 years or more; what's to complain about?). Otherwise, the basic "box" is in good shape...only a little rust, suspension stuff is still tight as are doors and weather stripping and virtually the entire interior is near perfect. Electrically--mirrors and fans and cruise control and etc etc--is all working. Piston slap. Still got it, it still goes away when warm. It sounds a little worse, but my every-10K-oil-analysis says engine wear is modest. Compression and fuel mileage is still very good. When all is said and done, as long as the engine is holding up and the control systems are OK (the EV will be a shed in the backyard in a heartbeat if the 10,000 miles of computer controlled wiring suddenly gets flaky) I'll keep it on the road. Of course, as soon as I get that phone call from Bill Armstrong, all bets are off. To all - opinions sought: |
Re: Is Satellite radio worth it?
Ed Davis <[email protected]>
I have Sirius radio, and I love it. Even though I live in the Boston
area, which has lots of great stations, I rarely listen to conventional radio. The variety and programming quality on Sirius is much better, and you don't get the commercials. Didn't know the NPR channels didn't include some of the popular shows. I got Sirius because it had NPR, but it's the Better Half who is the real NPR fan. Nobody tell her! Ed '99 EVC --- In ev_update@y..., "KP" <kaveh@o...> wrote:aWith all the travelers on this list, I would guess there would be couple who have satelliteradio. I'd like to get some opinions on either Sirius or XM radio. |
Opinions sought - Will my '93 EV Powertrain last 250K miles?
To all - opinions sought:
My questions: 1. Am I being widely optimistic to expect 250 K miles service life from this powertrain ('93 EV with 2.5 liter 5 cylinder gasoline engine with 5 speed manual transmission) without the need for rebuild? 2. How much longer will dealers be offering new '03 EVs since I understand they are out of production? The one I am looking at was built 6/02. Is this one one the last batches? Maybe VW made a bunch and intends to keep trickling them into the USA through the model year so they can maintain profitable pricing. On the other hand since the new Micro bus is probably a year or so away they probably will have a year gap in havin a van on the market as they did with the Vanagon to Eurovan transition. More info: I am once again weighing the purchase of a beautiful new '03 EV MV (dark green) versus cost to keep up my old '93 EV MV. Whenever I do this (and I seem to do it at least once a year and thus drive my wife crazy) the old Aqua Blue EV wins out. My assumption is always that if I keep changing the oil regularly and change the belts and coolant hoses before they break then my old trusty EV will easily hit this mark. Of course it might start to look like a rusty bucket but I am not hung up on having a shiny car and can handle most maintenence myself. I'm now at 134K miles and given I put on about 15K per year I estimate a remaining life of about 8 more years. This will bring me through 2010 ( and almost through college years for my 3 kids) and after that I will certainly be done with it and can park it on my brothers property in upstate New York and use it as a small permanent outdoor shed:-) Main role for my EV currently and projected through 2010 is to be my daily commuter (15 RT) plus serve as the family hauler for annual North Carolina vacation plus any trips where all five of us would be tight in our '00 Jetta TDI. I try to use the Jetta for local trips as much as possible to avoid wear and tear on the EV and minimize fuel cost. I am estimating spending on average $1000 to keep the van going over the next 8 years. This assumes no major rebuild of the powertrain components except to replace CV joints. Current value is 4-5K. I also have a '74 Lotus Europa in my garage that one day will run again and be my back up commuter car if the EV needs to be down for repairs (don't laugh!). Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Ron |
Re: Master Clutch Cylinder replacement
Harry Pinchot
Fill the clutch master cylinder then open the bleeder on the slave cylinder
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and allow the fluid to run down and out the slave cylinder bleeder. Be sure you have sufficient fluid to refill the clutch master at least twice. Unlike brake master cylinders clutch master cylinders do not have any valves so pumping the pedal is often futile. Harry P. Bill Barber wrote: I have managed to change the master cylinder on the clutch. Now I am |
Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...
In a message dated 12/14/02 6:27:50 PM, Sea2river@... writes:
<< I recommend you consider the GLS. I think your family will be happier with the GLS. If you decide to camp, you can get a tent. >> Bob, I hear you about the rear facing seats causing some limitations but I must also add that my 14, 13 and 11 year old children have a great time in the back of our MV. We set up our ibook computer on the table (with velcro feet) and they have a small movie theater. The snap on curtains are also great to block out light for the early morning vacation trips and to park the van in the hot sun. I'm still sold on the MV layout . Ron '93 EV MV |
What came standard with a 2002 MV?
Hello, everyone
I just bought a used Eurovan. In hunting around the web, I came across this email list and decided to join. Please forgive me for any errors in asking questions about things everyone already knows, and let me know (politely) if I am breaking any rules on etiquette. I assume "EV" is short for EuroVan? I happen to be a big fan of the other kind of EV (Electric Cars), so it will be a source of confusion for me! I bought a 2002 MV with 15k miles on it for (hopefully) the good price of $22,200 from Burnsville VW in Minnesota. Like too many used cars, the previous owners had stripped it of everything loose that could be removed without tools, including the owner's manual. The dealer ordered one for me, but in the meantime I am having to discover things by trial and error. That means I don't even know what I may be missing. So my first question is: Can anyone tell me what items I should have gotten but didn't? -- Lee A. Hart Ring the bells that still can ring 814 8th Ave. N. Forget your perfect offering Sartell, MN 56377 USA There is a crack in everything leeahart_at_earthlink.net That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen |
Re: 93 GL vs MV differences?
In a message dated 12/15/02 1:33:20 AM, Bob@... writes:
<< What other standard features, or available options, distinguish the three trim levels? Where can I look for a list? >> Bob, The CL was the most basic model and was a real value when the '93 EV came out at about 17K. The seats are a different material on the CL versus the GL. They are a more basic looking cloth with vinyl back versus the GL's more pattered velour look. The MV had it's own grey fuzzy cloth seats with multicolor speckle pattern . The CL lacks some of the convenience features of the GL and MV models. AC and power features (windows, door locks, mirrors ) were optional on the CL. The GL and MV had standard AC. The power features were optional on the GL but standard on the MV. Interestingly if the CL did not have AC you would get left and right sliding side windows standard - a nice feature plus as a bonus you would never have the AC headaches many had on the GL and MV. The sliding windows are sadly missing on the GL model but a left side became optional after some time. MV had both sliding windows standard. CL and GL both have the forward facing center bench seat that can fold forward to have a flat surface. Rear seat tilts and tumbles but requires removing bolts to take out. MV is the base for the weekender with the rear facing seats and table as you already know. The MV also gets the snap on curtains - a nice feature even if not using for camping. The MV listed for around 24K when new. The weekemder package ( refrig, sliding curtains, pop top with upper bed, screens) added to the MV was the most expensive at around 26K. All had the exact same engine and transmissions (5 spd and automatic). I believe 5 spds are rarer although since only about 10,000 units came to the USA all models are now rare. IMO, the basic CL was the best model. I ended up grabbing an MV in 1994 when VW offerered steep incentives ($4K!) to deplete unsold '93 inventory. Now if only they would do that on the '03 models :-) - very doubtful I suppose. Ron |
Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...
noneofyour damnbusiness
I'm 6'-1", and plenty comfortable even with an added lumbar support in the seat.
However, my 2000 doesn't have a tilt steering wheel. Have fun, Greg *** From: "John Sennett" <sennett@...> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* |
93 GL vs MV differences?
What are the differences between a 93 CL, GL, and MV (non-Weekender)?
The MV obviously has the rear-facing seats and table on the left wall. What other standard features, or available options, distinguish the three trim levels? Where can I look for a list? Thanks for the info! -- Bob Sutterfield '93 VW T4 EV MV 5-spd (hunting) '87 BMW E30 325iS #1129 DAS KAR '88 BMW E28 535iS #154 IHR FUNF BMWCCA #169277 Rocky Mountain Chapter |
Re: newby seeks honest opinion on operating costs
cdwhit <[email protected]>
Check the archives. Tires - hard to find, frequently need to order,
high dollar. Many "common" parts only available from the dealer (at top dollar). At least on the new EVs, at least some of the owners report lousy mileage. A recent request from a potential buyer on this group regarding dependablity of the EV brough messages, even from fans of the vehicle, that dependabliity is NOT a strong pont of the vehicle. Working on it will take money, at least for parts and if you don't have the time, talent and tools you'll be buying a mechanic a new car. --- In ev_update@..., "earlena_2 <earlena_2@y...>" <earlena_2@y...> wrote: Hello, my family and I are looking to buy a westfalia. Of coursethe first question that comes up is to get a vanagon or a eurovan?THere are of course many pros and cons to each which I have gathered fromowners regarding the actual operating costs for both versions. We haveand often difficult to obtain, especially when your out on the road and |
2002 EV Weekender Dealer Demo
George Grenier <[email protected]>
I came across a maroon 02 EV Weekender at the dealer yesterday while
picking up oil filters. The tag in the window was $26K, seemed clean. It was Mohegan Lake VW in Northern Westchester, NY. Just thought someone may be looking. George 02 EVC Katonah, NY |
Re: New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please...
John Sennett
If you are over 6 ft in height you may not get enough rearward
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adjustment of the driver's seat in the MV for you to have a comfortable driving position. That is a determining factor if ever there was one - if you are long legged. John Sennett -----Original Message-----
From: tnkenyon <todd.kenyon@...> [mailto:todd.kenyon@...] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 6:04 PM To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] New EV on Monday - MV or GLS? Help please... Finally pulling the trigger on our new EV Monday. The Lease deals from VW too good to pass up. We had decided on an MV in Tornado red, but now the dealer can't find any. So we would have to settle for silver, or get a GLS if we want the red. I am soliciting any advice that might help with the choice, specifically advantages/disadvantages of GLS vs MV. We have 3 little ones, 6 months, 3 1/2, 5. EV will be mostly be used for carpooling with a couple of highway trips each year, no camping plans at this time. The main attraction of the MV was the easy access to all the rear seats, although I do have some reservations about the limited recline of the front seats and the effectiveness of the shared headrests. GLS will lease for $30 less a month. We liked the red since it is nice and sporty looking, although I've never actualy seen a tornado red EV in person, only in photos. I've seen the color on Golfs. Any comments appreciated. Thanks! To unsubscribe from this group, send a message to mailto:ev_update-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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