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Re: egr valve reset

 

Al,

I had the same problem in June of this year with our '97 EVC also.
The yellow check engine light came on and wouldn't reset. Turned out
the problem apparantly was related to a weak, dying battery which
finally died completely a few weeks later. Soon as I installed the
new battery, the check engine light reset and hasn't come back on
since (except on start-up when its supposed to come on to verify its
working). If you're still on the original car battery, perhaps
you're experiencing the same problem. Good luck.

Sheldon
'97 EVC




--- In ev_update@y..., Al Ferguson <eurovan97@y...> wrote:
Long time lurker, first time poster...
I know this has probably been addressed before but...
I would like to know if any of you good folks can tell
me how to check and reset (if required) the EGR light
on a 1997 Eurovan-Camper (VR6). On my late 80's
Vanagons it was a simple black box on the speedo cable
with a little hole to stick a pencil in - push the
pencil in and the button will make a click sound and
is reset. Had to do that every 30K if I remember
correctly. Heck if I can find a similar setup on this
Eurovan!
So here is the deal, at 48.8K (and change) the
"check-engine" light comes. It is running cool... I
pull over and check oil, leaks, water, etc. - all is
o.k. so I drive it to the dealership - Hueberger in
Colorado Springs, CO - they won't even look at it for
a
week :-/ (terrible service) So I set an appointment.
In the meantime I would like to check that EGR / OXY
to see if it is a simple reset until I can get it in
the shop. YES I WILL GET IT LOOKED AT. BTW - I just
had a smog test on it - passed with ease.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Al Ferguson

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FW: range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

oops......typo. Should be:

And, although the ignition fires more the faster the engine spins, it
*ISN'T* much of a drain

----------
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:39 PM


Faster does not mean bigger drain. The fuel pump runs constantly
irrespective of vehicle's speed, and that's the major current draw on your
electrical system. And, although the ignition fires more the faster the
engine spins, it's much of a drain (a bigger drain is the electric fans, and
I would think you could maximize the effective range or your battery by
finding the optimum speed where the fans cycled as little as possible).

At some point, long before the ignition dies, my guess is the fuel pump
would fail to deliver sufficient fuel pressure, and that would be the end of
your ride. (When I was in college my Rambler's generator -- not alternator;
generator -- died and I made the dash from Columbus to Cleveland on battery
power alone, and of course that old car had NOTHING electrical but the coil.
I remember putting the car in reverse and killing the engine.....the backup
lights were enough to kill the ignition. IOW, the ignition required very
little actual current.)

Bottom line? I think you can drive as long as your fuel pump can maintain
adequate system pressure, and I would think you won't get much if any
warning when that's about to fail. I think you could go at least two hours
though.

----------
From: "Tom Wilds" <wildst@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:04 PM


2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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Re: range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Faster does not mean bigger drain. The fuel pump runs constantly
irrespective of vehicle's speed, and that's the major current draw on your
electrical system. And, although the ignition fires more the faster the
engine spins, it's much of a drain (a bigger drain is the electric fans, and
I would think you could maximize the effective range or your battery by
finding the optimum speed where the fans cycled as little as possible).

At some point, long before the ignition dies, my guess is the fuel pump
would fail to deliver sufficient fuel pressure, and that would be the end of
your ride. (When I was in college my Rambler's generator -- not alternator;
generator -- died and I made the dash from Columbus to Cleveland on battery
power alone, and of course that old car had NOTHING electrical but the coil.
I remember putting the car in reverse and killing the engine.....the backup
lights were enough to kill the ignition. IOW, the ignition required very
little actual current.)

Bottom line? I think you can drive as long as your fuel pump can maintain
adequate system pressure, and I would think you won't get much if any
warning when that's about to fail. I think you could go at least two hours
though.

----------
From: "Tom Wilds" <wildst@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:04 PM


2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

Tom Wilds
 

Once you get it off with the key, and it takes a little fiddleing the first
couple of times, you can set it so you don't have to use the key.

2000 EVC

----- Original Message -----
From: "plthe" <plthe@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it
without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

 

I second that.

Marty S.

plthe wrote:

If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!

Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate

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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

plthe
 

If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th¨¦
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


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Re: range of a battery

Tom Wilds
 

2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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New MV owner can't open gas cap!

 

Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


Re: A/C Compressor

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Steve at europarts-sd.com has the long belt (and maybe the short belt too).
Not sure if he can get the short one to you faster than your dealer but it
might be worth a call.

----------
From: tommc@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] A/C Compressor
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 7:18 PM


Michael,

I have a serpetine belt, got the compressor off and sure enough it
was locked up and the bearing on the clutch was ground up too, now if
I can just get parts. The VW dealer in town is looking to see if he
can get a belt for it, not using A/C, I'll just leave the compressor
off, otherwise I'll have to wait. Thanks.


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range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump, in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety margin
imo.


A/C Compressor

 

Michael,

I have a serpetine belt, got the compressor off and sure enough it
was locked up and the bearing on the clutch was ground up too, now if
I can just get parts. The VW dealer in town is looking to see if he
can get a belt for it, not using A/C, I'll just leave the compressor
off, otherwise I'll have to wait. Thanks.


Fluid on top of Power steering filler?

 

I'm doing a little work on the '93 MV this weekend.

I noticed fluid on top of the power steering filler. Is this a sign of bad
things to come? so far no problems with the steering or no unusual noises.

Steve Lashley
SKL Enterprises Inc.

636-797-9015
636-789-2127 fax


fender bender

 

so I was following a friend down the road
all of a sudden, bizarrely, her car came to a screeching stop
nobody was hurt, but it must have been some kind of record, stopping distance
for a Volvo wagon from 40 MPH
the skid marks were at least thirty feet long
"catastrophic failure" of some kind, the officer said
maybe tranny jumped somehow, or bearing failure
we don't know
anyway, I was this close to stopping in time
my reflexes and brakes are both good
but there was just no way
I've never seen a car stop as fast as hers did
I needed another five feet at least
the impact was not that terrible, and mercifully it was almost square on rear
end, but the Volvo crumpled up somewhat on the passenger side
the only thing I can find on my EV is under the hood
top plate of suspension member on passenger side looks to have been pushed
back @ 3/8" or so - fresh metal visible behind two bolt heads
other than that, I can find nothing
pretty impressive, actually
glad the Volvo crumpled so obligingly
anyway, question to the group:
what do I look for/check on?
what's likely to be affected when you drive into something? everything's up
front, I can't believe I'm going to get off this easily
good idea to do a front end alignment?
thanks for any input
Rolf


Re: Ac Compressor on a '93'

Michael G. McCarthy
 

First, can you tell if you have a serpentine belt (one belt that snakes
around to ALL the pulleys) or do you have TWO belts, with one on the A/C and
the other on other things? Most but not all '93s have a serpentine belt.

----------
From: tommc@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Ac Compressor on a '93'
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 1:45 PM


I was inland (about 200 miles) yesterday and it was HOT (mid 90's) I
was running the AC on the way home and it started putting out hot
air. It then preceeded to make a hot burnning smell. I was stopped at
some road construction on the way home (about 1/2 way) and it started
making a grinding noise (A/C was off and the motor was running ok,
the gagues were ok too) since my wife and I both are in wheelchairs
and I was in middle of no where, I decided to drive it home. Got home
ok but it was sure grinding by time I got there. I presume thje
compressor locked up and the clutch bearing went out. Now the
question I have is how do you take the compressor off (can't even see
it)on't have a bently manual and I need the van thursday to go inland
to the hospital. Thanks Tom McGuire


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Ac Compressor on a '93'

 

I was inland (about 200 miles) yesterday and it was HOT (mid 90's) I
was running the AC on the way home and it started putting out hot
air. It then preceeded to make a hot burnning smell. I was stopped at
some road construction on the way home (about 1/2 way) and it started
making a grinding noise (A/C was off and the motor was running ok,
the gagues were ok too) since my wife and I both are in wheelchairs
and I was in middle of no where, I decided to drive it home. Got home
ok but it was sure grinding by time I got there. I presume thje
compressor locked up and the clutch bearing went out. Now the
question I have is how do you take the compressor off (can't even see
it)on't have a bently manual and I need the van thursday to go inland
to the hospital. Thanks Tom McGuire


Leaving for Busses

Gary F Clendening
 

Eurobago Admirers,

Broken foot has healed pretty good so B and I will try a night at Thomas
Point Beach with the wild bunch. Looks like the Quebecers have a problem
with the border being very jammed so we may miss some of their wonderful
Eurovan adaptations. Hoping to eat lots of ice cream tonight (taking
extra insulin) and the usual (ugh) lobster. The company is worth the
lobster.

Yellow light is still off after 400 miles. Beginning to feel that it is
solved. Definitely NOT the EGR valve. Looking forward to putting a face
to some of these interesting e-mail. Hope to meet you if you are there.
Richard, I have the copies of last year's photos, including the "Field of
Busses" shots. That's a great photo.

Gary from Maine, still mending

Gary and Belle Clendening
'97 EVC "Flying Carpet" @ 67000 miles
207-622-0631
Hallowell, Maine


Re: OT: as a mechanic.......

 

--- "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
wrote:

World Trade Center buildings are gone now too. Next
time you are downtown
in SF, visit the BofA pavilion, look at the lines at
your feet, and follow
them all the way to the sky. It's just the nicest
thing.
Hmmm, I was just down there last Sunday watching the
San Francisco GP, and I hadn't really paid attention
to your observation. I guess The Pyramid is usually
the defining structure of the SF skyline, but I'll
take a look again next time I'm up in the City.

Hey Mike, you want some moon cakes? That'll give me a
good excuse to go check out the building... ;) Let
me know if you do.

Norman
San Jose, CA

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as a mechanic.......

Michael G. McCarthy
 

To my friends in the Bay Area,

When I lived where you are blessed to live now, I would have to say that my
favorite building had to be the Bank of America building, with its great
dark mass and its "banker's heart" stone sculpture on its pavilion. Years
ago I visited New York and stood next to one of the World Trade Center
towers and took great pleasure, as a mechanic, to realize you could stand at
the base and look UP the ENTIRE sheer side of the building. No adornments,
no protrusions.....just a clean and pure mechanical line 110 stories high.
Wonderful.

Same with the BofA building, but a little subtler. If you stand on the
pavilion surrounding the building, and look at the pattern in the stones at
your feet, and follow the lines formed by those dark stones, you will see
that the lines on that flat plane where you stand extend ALL THE WAY up the
sides of the building. It's like the ENTIRE building AND pavilion are
integrated on a SINGLE piece of graph paper. Every brick on the ground fits
with the lines that define the building high in the air. Very very
satisfying. A mechanically poetic detail that should be appreciated.

I know the loss of life is more important, but it's a damn shame those fine
World Trade Center buildings are gone now too. Next time you are downtown
in SF, visit the BofA pavilion, look at the lines at your feet, and follow
them all the way to the sky. It's just the nicest thing.


Re: egr valve reset

 

Well, maybe not the smartest purchase, I was in a bind far from home
on a holiday, but I made the diagnosis, cleared the yellow light, and
was able to drive on. Plus the tool will work with my wife's Honda,
my Taurus (gotta be inconspicuous during business hours,) and my
Chevy Truck.

But you peaked my interest, and yes, I'd like to have that tool as
well. And the idea of a laptop in the garage does sound cool...

Chris "not the smartest VW owner" Vaughn

--- In ev_update@y..., "Donald " <gibbonsnc@y...> wrote:

Not a very smart purchase for a VW owner. The tester you got can
only
look at the engine.

Many recent EV's also have computers for ABS, AC, Transmission &
central locking. Your $150 box can't touch them.

But for $200 you can get a VAG-COM that can look at all them. I
would
much rather have that tool in my garage.


Re: Overheating - HELP !!

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Yes, the engine has a thermostat.....an old-fashioned bi-metallic type
mounted on the front of the block behind a cast hose fitting between the 1st
and 2nd cylinder, or thereabouts. If the thermostat was blocked closed then
yes the engine would be hot but the fans would NOT be running because no hot
water would be circulating through the radiator and that means there would
be no hot water to heat the thermo switch that turns on the fans.

----------
From: "IronWood Designs" <zawalick@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: RE: [ev_update] Overheating - HELP !!
Date: Fri, Sep 14, 2001, 8:44 PM


Those fans won't push much air if the louvers have failed closed. Can you
feel the hot air blowing if you stick your hand (carefully) down behind the
radiator?

What about a stuck closed thermostat? Do these engines have thermostats?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: James 'JC' Gochoco [mailto:ieworld@...]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:08 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: RE: [ev_update] Overheating - HELP !!



Both Fans are running an like roaring very loud. I
opened the Hood and the Bottle seems normal not
boiling. Anyway, I will take the van to my mechanic
tommorow.

I have gathered all responses from members that
responded and have them check against the situation.

I will post the result later tommorow.

Thanks All!!

JC.




--- IronWood Designs <zawalick@...> wrote:
> Are both fans running? If not, see previous posts.
> Also check to see that
> the radiator louvers are opening.
>
> Stevie-z
> 93 GL w/133K
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ieworld@... [mailto:ieworld@...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:04 AM
> To: ev_update@...
> Subject: [ev_update] Overheating - HELP !!
>
>
> Hi All:
>
> I just notice lately that the temp GAUGE has
> start touching 230
> degrees. I like to solicit opinions to as what
> might be wrong in this
> kind of scenario.
>
> My car is a 93 EV GL. Any inputs is highly
> appreciated.
>
>
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>
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