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Re: is it worth replacing an engine?

Michael G. McCarthy
 

I agree your block's a little long in the tooth. I like the engine with 81K
much better, but there would have to be assurances that the block really
does hit 175 and the top end is quiet. If you have a manual transmission,
now's the time to do the clutch if it hasn't been done within the last 50K
(if you have an automatic, I wonder if Plan C makes the most sense). If you
are going to pull the entire engine, it become economical to do other things
too (eg, new boots for the half-shafts, new coolant hoses, and other soft
parts too) and that's just not the case when just swapping a head, which is
all the more reason I like the 81K engine.


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From: Mark Kumler <kumler@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] is it worth replacing an engine?
Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2001, 8:55 AM


I was driving my '93 MV from southern California to the S.F. Bay
area, where I intended to leave it with in-laws while I headed off to New
Zealand for a year. It was a hot (*very* hot) day, but the van had
recently had a major tune, was performing wonderfully as usual, and I
plowed through the Central Valley with the AC on. After a lengthy lunch
break (when the engine should have cooled down a bit), I hit the road
again. But within 10 minutes the AC faded, I lost considerable power, and
I barely made it off the highway before a t-valve in the cooling system
blew and -- as I would later learn -- the head was irreparably damaged.
My boys loved the ride in the tow truck and the unexpected Sunday (or
course) evening in a hotel pool, but I hated the news the next day that it
would be several days and several hundred dollars, at a minimum. After
several trans-Pacific phone calls and nearly 8 weeks, I hear that it'll be
$2200-$2500 for a new head, piston rings, etc. For an engine that already
has 150,000 miles on it.
I'm trying to decide whether to a) repair it, b) buy and have
installed a newer engine ("81,000 miles, compression: 175") from an unknown
dismantler I found on the web, for about the same total price, or c) sell
it for parts and buy a newer (but still used) one when I return to the
States in a year. Any suggestions?



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is it worth replacing an engine?

Mark Kumler
 

I was driving my '93 MV from southern California to the S.F. Bay area, where I intended to leave it with in-laws while I headed off to New Zealand for a year. It was a hot (*very* hot) day, but the van had recently had a major tune, was performing wonderfully as usual, and I plowed through the Central Valley with the AC on. After a lengthy lunch break (when the engine should have cooled down a bit), I hit the road again. But within 10 minutes the AC faded, I lost considerable power, and I barely made it off the highway before a t-valve in the cooling system blew and -- as I would later learn -- the head was irreparably damaged.
My boys loved the ride in the tow truck and the unexpected Sunday (or course) evening in a hotel pool, but I hated the news the next day that it would be several days and several hundred dollars, at a minimum. After several trans-Pacific phone calls and nearly 8 weeks, I hear that it'll be $2200-$2500 for a new head, piston rings, etc. For an engine that already has 150,000 miles on it.
I'm trying to decide whether to a) repair it, b) buy and have installed a newer engine ("81,000 miles, compression: 175") from an unknown dismantler I found on the web, for about the same total price, or c) sell it for parts and buy a newer (but still used) one when I return to the States in a year. Any suggestions?


Expression of grief from around the world

Madeleine Dewar
 

This page takes a VERY LONG time to load because there are so many pictures
even with my fast DSL, but I'm very moved by it and thought some here might
also be interested in seeing it. For any pictures that only show a red "x" in a box, right click and click on "Show Picture."

BTW, a few pictures down there are two pictures from "Inside the
Volkswagen Autostadt Company in Wolfsburg, Germany ."

Peace, Love and Serenity,
Madeleine


Re: middle bench seat

Jan Hart
 

Thanks, Jim. I'll keep looking locally.
--Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim F Kelly
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:40 PM
Subject: [ev_update] middle bench seat


Hi Jan: Sorry, but I do not have a middle bench seat with the camper.
Regards, Jim

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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

 

Did you use the right key? When we were closing the
deal to buy the EV, we tried the gas cap to make sure
everything was working and we couldn't get the gas cap
off either. The sales assistant tried, no luck. Turns
out we were using the glove box key, the sales guy was
new and didn't know. Hope this helps..

--- gatorkate30@... wrote:
Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st
time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap
to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him
through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we
couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service
dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip
that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any
and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love
our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


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Re: A/C Compressor

 

I purchased my belt from Napa they have them in stock.
E Penton


middle bench seat

Jim F Kelly
 

Hi Jan: Sorry, but I do not have a middle bench seat with the camper.
Regards, Jim


Poll results for ev_update

 

The following ev_update poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Are you the owner of a 5-cylinder
engine Eurovan with an automatic
transmission? If so, please rate your
satisfaction with the transmission
according to how much maintenance
it has required.

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Very happy-- no maintenance yet, 13 votes, 56.52%
- Satisfied-- 1 or 2 problems, easily repaired, 5 votes, 21.74%
- Unsatisfied-- major repairs needed, 4 votes, 17.39%
- Very unhappy-- had to replace entire transmission, 1 votes, 4.35%
- Disgusted-- sold the van or retrofitted with 5-speed, 0 votes, 0.00%

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- Very happy-- no maintenance yet
- dela@...
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- stormep@...
- jimhmc@...
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- gibbonsnc@...
- elgartk@...
- highrpm@...
- bleggis4@...
- cvh@...
- Unsatisfied-- major repairs needed
- rowley@...
- George.Mehallick@...
- dvanulden@...
- marcelv@...
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Re: egr valve reset

 

Al,

I had the same problem in June of this year with our '97 EVC also.
The yellow check engine light came on and wouldn't reset. Turned out
the problem apparantly was related to a weak, dying battery which
finally died completely a few weeks later. Soon as I installed the
new battery, the check engine light reset and hasn't come back on
since (except on start-up when its supposed to come on to verify its
working). If you're still on the original car battery, perhaps
you're experiencing the same problem. Good luck.

Sheldon
'97 EVC




--- In ev_update@y..., Al Ferguson <eurovan97@y...> wrote:
Long time lurker, first time poster...
I know this has probably been addressed before but...
I would like to know if any of you good folks can tell
me how to check and reset (if required) the EGR light
on a 1997 Eurovan-Camper (VR6). On my late 80's
Vanagons it was a simple black box on the speedo cable
with a little hole to stick a pencil in - push the
pencil in and the button will make a click sound and
is reset. Had to do that every 30K if I remember
correctly. Heck if I can find a similar setup on this
Eurovan!
So here is the deal, at 48.8K (and change) the
"check-engine" light comes. It is running cool... I
pull over and check oil, leaks, water, etc. - all is
o.k. so I drive it to the dealership - Hueberger in
Colorado Springs, CO - they won't even look at it for
a
week :-/ (terrible service) So I set an appointment.
In the meantime I would like to check that EGR / OXY
to see if it is a simple reset until I can get it in
the shop. YES I WILL GET IT LOOKED AT. BTW - I just
had a smog test on it - passed with ease.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Al Ferguson

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FW: range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

oops......typo. Should be:

And, although the ignition fires more the faster the engine spins, it
*ISN'T* much of a drain

----------
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:39 PM


Faster does not mean bigger drain. The fuel pump runs constantly
irrespective of vehicle's speed, and that's the major current draw on your
electrical system. And, although the ignition fires more the faster the
engine spins, it's much of a drain (a bigger drain is the electric fans, and
I would think you could maximize the effective range or your battery by
finding the optimum speed where the fans cycled as little as possible).

At some point, long before the ignition dies, my guess is the fuel pump
would fail to deliver sufficient fuel pressure, and that would be the end of
your ride. (When I was in college my Rambler's generator -- not alternator;
generator -- died and I made the dash from Columbus to Cleveland on battery
power alone, and of course that old car had NOTHING electrical but the coil.
I remember putting the car in reverse and killing the engine.....the backup
lights were enough to kill the ignition. IOW, the ignition required very
little actual current.)

Bottom line? I think you can drive as long as your fuel pump can maintain
adequate system pressure, and I would think you won't get much if any
warning when that's about to fail. I think you could go at least two hours
though.

----------
From: "Tom Wilds" <wildst@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:04 PM


2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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Re: range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Faster does not mean bigger drain. The fuel pump runs constantly
irrespective of vehicle's speed, and that's the major current draw on your
electrical system. And, although the ignition fires more the faster the
engine spins, it's much of a drain (a bigger drain is the electric fans, and
I would think you could maximize the effective range or your battery by
finding the optimum speed where the fans cycled as little as possible).

At some point, long before the ignition dies, my guess is the fuel pump
would fail to deliver sufficient fuel pressure, and that would be the end of
your ride. (When I was in college my Rambler's generator -- not alternator;
generator -- died and I made the dash from Columbus to Cleveland on battery
power alone, and of course that old car had NOTHING electrical but the coil.
I remember putting the car in reverse and killing the engine.....the backup
lights were enough to kill the ignition. IOW, the ignition required very
little actual current.)

Bottom line? I think you can drive as long as your fuel pump can maintain
adequate system pressure, and I would think you won't get much if any
warning when that's about to fail. I think you could go at least two hours
though.

----------
From: "Tom Wilds" <wildst@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: Re: [ev_update] range of a battery
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 8:04 PM


2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

Tom Wilds
 

Once you get it off with the key, and it takes a little fiddleing the first
couple of times, you can set it so you don't have to use the key.

2000 EVC

----- Original Message -----
From: "plthe" <plthe@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it
without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

 

I second that.

Marty S.

plthe wrote:

If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!

Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate

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Re: New MV owner can't open gas cap!

plthe
 

If it's like ours you have to put the key in it and turn it--can't remove it without the key actually in the gas gap.

Lee Th¨¦
97 EVC
PaloAlto, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: gatorkate30@...
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: [ev_update] New MV owner can't open gas cap!


Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


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Re: range of a battery

Tom Wilds
 

2 hours at what speed? The faster you go the bigger the drain - yes ?

I would also think that at some point, long before dead, there would be
insufficient power to create the spark, and drive all of the other
electrical components. I also assume that all controllable electrical things
were off.

I had a old diesel rabbit and got about 20 miles after the alt. went and
then sat for a while..

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>; <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [ev_update] range of a battery


My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a
two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked
the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it
looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours
of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump,
in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety
margin
imo.







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New MV owner can't open gas cap!

 

Hello,
We are the excited new owners of a 2001 MV. The 1st time my
husband tried to put gas in he couldn't get the cap to unlock. He
put in a call to our salesman who tried to talk him through it, with
no luck. We bought the van out-of-town so we couldn't run over
for help. We do have a local dealer but the service dept. is closed
until Mon. I'm hoping someone in the group has a tip that will get
us rolling. Has anyone else had this problem? Any and all help
would be appreciated. Other then this issue, we love our new
van.
Warm regards,
Kate


Re: A/C Compressor

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Steve at europarts-sd.com has the long belt (and maybe the short belt too).
Not sure if he can get the short one to you faster than your dealer but it
might be worth a call.

----------
From: tommc@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] A/C Compressor
Date: Sat, Sep 15, 2001, 7:18 PM


Michael,

I have a serpetine belt, got the compressor off and sure enough it
was locked up and the bearing on the clutch was ground up too, now if
I can just get parts. The VW dealer in town is looking to see if he
can get a belt for it, not using A/C, I'll just leave the compressor
off, otherwise I'll have to wait. Thanks.


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range of a battery

Michael G. McCarthy
 

My wife Kathy is back from San Jose today, flying the
not-as-tense-as-you'd-think-friendly-skies-of-Delta, after about a two-hour
delay. I drove the EV sans serpentine belt to the airport (about 20 miles
away) and was asked to move three different times, which means I cranked the
engine 5 times. When we got home, and I put the charger back on, it looked
as if the battery was at least 75% charged. Not bad. I would say if you
ever lose your alternator (ie, if the alternator itself fails or for some
reason you lose the serpentine belt) you could expect at least two hours of
drive time on a good battery (mainly for the ignition and the fuel pump, in
the day) before you'd need to recharge. That's a pretty good safety margin
imo.


A/C Compressor

 

Michael,

I have a serpetine belt, got the compressor off and sure enough it
was locked up and the bearing on the clutch was ground up too, now if
I can just get parts. The VW dealer in town is looking to see if he
can get a belt for it, not using A/C, I'll just leave the compressor
off, otherwise I'll have to wait. Thanks.


Fluid on top of Power steering filler?

 

I'm doing a little work on the '93 MV this weekend.

I noticed fluid on top of the power steering filler. Is this a sign of bad
things to come? so far no problems with the steering or no unusual noises.

Steve Lashley
SKL Enterprises Inc.

636-797-9015
636-789-2127 fax