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Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
More details from several of the Rialta-Tech members, including a nice photo album showing the details:
/g/Rialta-Tech/album?id=265381 "An alternative to repairing the no-longer-available charcoal vapor canister is to replace it with a currently available canister mounted in the battery compartment. I purchased a Standard CP1022 canister, because of its size and because it can be easily mounted vertically, and mounted it in the battery compartment. To bring the gas tank vent line up to the new canister I disconnected the tubing from the original canister (10mm vent tubing and 8mm purge valve tubing), located in the driver¡¯s side front wheel well on my 2000 FD, and joined them together, which extended the gas tank vent line up to the engine compartment. The original 8mm tubing to the purge valve (N80) in the engine compartment is now the new gas tank vent tubing, which has to be connected to the input of the new canister, located in the battery compartment. Rubber fuel hose from the vent tubing to the canister input, and from the canister output to the purge valve (N80) completes the hookup." "...be sure to have tight connections for this hookup, particularly at the hose transitions. If you plan to use the Standard CP1022 canister be aware that the input port is 8mm (5/16¡±) and the output port is 6mm (1/4¡±). I¡¯ve added a photo album: ¡°Charcoal Canister Replacement - 2000 Rialta¡±, which includes a hastily drawn diagram of the system." |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
Thanks David - that's a very clever solution: it uses a commodity part and is non destructive, as it re-uses the existing hoses, simply adding some new ones.
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Any concern with relocating the vapor canister next to the battery in the engine compartment (possibly increased fire danger?) To be fair, the existing location behind the front left tire isn't great as it's subject to damage from road debris, tire blow-out etc. Question: when the system gets clogged and is venting fumes, is it venting from the canister or some other location? Is there an overpressure vent on the fuel tank? I haven't been able to figure that out. Mike On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:17 PM, David <dsh1705@...> wrote: |
Re: Transmission Woes
Hey Moedig, not sure why folks are talking about ATF and temps when your concern is with the final drive.? I don¡¯t see how this is your fault in any way. The oil would have to leak out or get sucked out, or not have been there in the first place. None of those 3 scenarios apply to you. 6k miles is not acceptable and they should stand behind their work. Amazing that it went 6k without gear oil.? Maybe put your request to them in writing and consider the BBB and online reviews if they do not own up to it.? ? |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
From the Rialta-Tech groups.io group:?/g/Rialta-Tech/topic/charcoal_canister_replacement/83717283
¡°An alternative to repairing the no-longer-available charcoal vapor canister is to replace it with a currently available canister mounted in the battery compartment. I purchased a Standard CP1022 canister, because of its size and because it can be easily mounted vertically, and mounted it in the battery compartment. To bring the gas tank vent line up to the new canister I disconnected the tubing from the original canister (10mm vent tubing and 8mm purge valve tubing), located in the driver¡¯s side front wheel well on my 2000 FD, and joined them together, which extended the gas tank vent line up to the engine compartment. The original 8mm tubing to the purge valve (N80) in the engine compartment is now the new gas tank vent tubing, which has to be connected to the input of the new canister, located in the battery compartment. Rubber fuel hose from the vent tubing to the canister input, and from the canister output to the purge valve (N80) completes the hookup.¡± -- David 1705.net 95 EVG(lamper) Seattle, WA |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
Some combination of both, I suspect. There's no functional difference between making stuff ourselves and a third party component manufacturer, only one of volume.? I don't think Covid has anything to do with it - they just stopped making them and won't be making any more. Some component manufacturer must have the original drawings but goodness knows how we can find them.
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Many parts on the van can be replaced with generics - the fridge, tension belts, tires, bulbs, etc., so we are good there but there is some stuff that cannot and that includes the complex plastic shapes like the evap canister, which are basically designed to 'fit in available space'. 3d printing has just about reached the stage where is is viable to print a replacement of these plastic parts. I'll try making a copy of my '99 EVC evap can at some point if I can't find a broken one to copy.? Maybe I'll add a threaded cap to facilitate the kind of refurbishment that Burton described in this thread. Once a CAD file has been created - like this drier knob that always breaks on my GE drier - it can be printed anywhere and I'm sure low volume 3D printing shops will start springing up so you can get a part 3d printed in your own locality. I think it would be great if this group could create a library of CAD files for items that are otherwise unobtainable. On Monday, June 21, 2021, 6:48:33 PM PDT, Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote:
Jonathan, I agree with and echo your sentiment. I wonder, is this: * A: the end of the line for parts for our dear Eurovans, and we have to start making them ourselves or abandoning the vehicles if we can't? * B: simply the normal events when a discontinued model hits 20 years of age, and we just need to wait a bit for 3rd party manufacturers to start making parts soon? * C: either A or B, but possibly worsened by covid-supply-related issues? On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io <jonathanmackenzie@...> wrote: |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
If it were my rig and couldn't get a replacement I would try this:
1, Look up on line for a x ray view (Often called Phantom view) of the internal layout.: 2 Remove unit. 3) Drill a starter hole where the charcoal is. 4) Expand hole to 1/2 inch. 5) Shake out all old charcoal.into a glass jar. 6) Go to Walmart pet dept and buy a bag of activated charcoal used for aquarium filters. 7) add new charcoal (the same amount as what you took out.) 8)Over the hol,e use some kind of screen mesh as a scaffold.? Use a few drops of Crazy glue to locate the screen over the hole. 9) Use some epoxy over the mesh with the old hole facing up.? So the charcoal rests below the fix. 10) After the epoxy sets, re-install the canister. |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
Jonathan, I agree with and echo your sentiment.
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I wonder, is this: * A: the end of the line for parts for our dear Eurovans, and we have to start making them ourselves or abandoning the vehicles if we can't? * B: simply the normal events when a discontinued model hits 20 years of age, and we just need to wait a bit for 3rd party manufacturers to start making parts soon? * C: either A or B, but possibly worsened by covid-supply-related issues? On Jun 18, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io <jonathanmackenzie@...> wrote: |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
On eBay right how I see one vapor canister for the 1993-1995 yearl, several for the 2001-2003, but zero for the 1997-2000 year Eurovans.
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On Jun 18, 2021, at 4:43 PM, sam letzring <sletz@...> wrote: |
Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP
#Norcold
I DO have a guide on replacing the regulator on a 95, if that helps!?https://1705.net/propane-tank-and-regulator-repair/
-- David 1705.net 95 EVC Seattle, WA |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
Some of these are used parts but you can always recharge the canister with new carbon. Sam 02 EVC On 6/18/2021 8:13 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io wrote:
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Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
Sam,
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You are right!? I searched EBay and found a used one for a 2001 -2003 Rialta price $450 plus $45 shipping. 01 02 03 VW Eurovan Rialta Charcoal Evap Canister 7D0201801E Leak Detection Unit The seller also has many other used items but I could not find a EVC type canister. On Friday, June 18, 2021, 4:43:18 PM PDT, sam letzring <sletz@...> wrote:
There are some available right now on E-bay! Sam 02 EVC On 6/18/2021 4:24 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io wrote: It is concerning that we are running out of some crucial spare parts for Eurovans. I can think of two ways we can address this. One is to find functionally equivalent generic parts and adapt them to the Eurovan, the other is to 3D print and/or machine an exact replacement. |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
There are some available right now on E-bay!
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Sam 02 EVC On 6/18/2021 4:24 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io wrote:
It is concerning that we are running out of some crucial spare parts for Eurovans. I can think of two ways we can address this. One is to find functionally equivalent generic parts and adapt them to the Eurovan, the other is to 3D print and/or machine an exact replacement. |
Re: Wanted: Evap Carbon Canister for 2000 Eurovan
It is concerning that we are running out of some crucial spare parts for Eurovans. I can think of two ways we can address this. One is to find functionally equivalent generic parts and adapt them to the Eurovan, the other is to 3D print and/or machine an exact replacement.
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Both require some work, and I'm happy to participate as I have just semi-retired. If someone can get a broken or worn out evap carbon canister to me (95252), I can refund the postage and make it my first project. On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 2:54:57 PM PDT, Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote:
I'm looking for the Evap Carbon Canister for a 2000 Eurovan, which is shown here: ??? No longer available new, so if anyone has a used one, please let me know. Thanks! Mike |
Re: Bentley paper vs. electronic, for a 2000 Eurovan?
I recently tried to re-register my Bentley eBahn DVD manual for the Eurovan and couldn't do it.? It's no longer supported.? Bentley Publishers did give me access to their online "preview early beta" version since I was the original owner of the DVD.? It's the same content, but online.
I'll back up a few months, though.? The PC on which eBahn was installed had been in storage (though the content had been deregistered).? In need of some technical information, I found alldatadiy.com and subscribed.? The info there is the same as on the DVD.? I believe this website can also be accessed through some public libraries. |
Re: 1995 Eurovan.
"strange behavior when it gets hot"....sounds like my ex-gf.? miss her.??? faulty thermostat controller. they're only like 50 bucks on amazon (just 2 screws and 2 wires to replace one).
On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 1:34:09 PM PDT, Domokos Hadnagy <domokos.hadnagy@...> wrote:
I have a Eurovan that has very strange behavior when it gets hot outside. When the outside temperature is over 85 or 90 the gas heater fan comes on, not the heater.? This happens if it is even not being driven just parked in my driveway. It stays on until the outside temperature drops. It stays on if I¡¯m camping in warm weather until late into the night. Any suggestion on how to get around this problem? Domokos |
Re: 2001 Weekender For Sale
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On Jun 17, 2021, at 20:46, Mac Johansen via groups.io <mac.johansen@...> wrote:
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Re: Bentley paper vs. electronic, for a 2000 Eurovan?
I think the 2000 is left over from 1999. The 201 HP engine, larger wheels (16¡±), aluminum alloy wheels, etc. did not appear until 2001.
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No need for DVD. BOB Williams On Jun 17, 2021, at 20:01, Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote: |
Re: Bentley paper vs. electronic, for a 2000 Eurovan?
I bought the CD from Bentley years ago which seems to cover all EV's up to 2002. The CD no longer works( Bentley never upgraded to anything past XP) so now they offer it on-line. You just have to have a license ( and pay them) and then you can browse the manual on-line- and printout whatever you need. I would check with Bentley to see iff they stil offer that.
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sam 02 EVC On 6/17/2021 8:00 PM, Michael Diehr wrote:
It's increasingly likely that having a Bentley repair manual for my Eurovan would be useful. |
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