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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
plthe
VW.com can generate of list of all VW dealers in order of distance from your
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home. Give it a zip code in CA and ME and it'll do the same for those areas. The kicker is that last time I tried it you had to phone their hotline and have the person tell you which of those dealers are authorized Eurobago dealers--they're about 1/4 of the total. Then you can email dealers on the resulting list and start talking turkey. --Lee Th 97 EVC Palo Alto, CA ----- Original Message -----
From: <kent@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:17 PM Subject: [ev_update] Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie Thanks much Gary, appreciate it. BTW, was the outfit in CA, and who |
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VW parts CD
I have some questions about how to make this work .... If someone
would be so kind to step by step this out for me I would be SO happy! I get to the point where it is checking ini and then it stops and I get this message cant open root/filesort. Does this mean anything to anybody???? PLEASE HELP! Thank You!! Marty S. |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
Thanks a lot Jim --- I will track them down.
--- In ev_update@..., louwsma@a... wrote: In a message dated 6/2/00 6:48:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,kent@p... writes:seats, some without. Also, try Wausau Imports, Wausau, Wisconsin and ask forAlan--tell him I sent you. I bought an EVC from him and he treated me right.Sorry I don't have phone numbers, all my info is at the office. However,Burnsville VW is in Burnsville, Minnesota (near the Twin Cities). Jim Louwsma |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
Thanks much Gary, appreciate it. BTW, was the outfit in CA, and who
is your dealer in ME? I have to go to both those places this summer. Wouldn't mind driving back a bit. ---Kent --- In ev_update@..., "Gary Clendening" <GARYC@S...> wrote: price. that was right where my price limit stopped. Then I brought that in to mydealer in Waterville, ME and told him I would rather pay the extra money fora plane ticket and drive the EVC home for a vacation. That seemed toreduce his demands significantly. I got our '97 for 31.3K in August of '97.Good luck...make certain you get your inspection of the machine donebefore you sign on the line. I used a form to check off things known to bepoorly assembled by Winnie. |
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Re: Camping in WA with Dogs
Dick and Jackie
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Lots of places to camp and hike (with dogs on leash) here on Vancouver
Island. Provincial parks are well located and very good - but a word of caution
- July will be very busy and reservations are recommended.
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There are Forest Service camp grounds that are a bit more primitive than
the Provincial Parks, but once again, they will be busy in July.
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Email me direct if you want my list of favourites.
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Dick
Vancouver Island
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sliding window latch
Antonio Martinez
Well, I FINALLY got around to re-attaching my sliding window latch (sliding
door side). I had no excuse not to, since the door liner kept falling off :/ I had paid to have the dealer repair the window latch, only to have it fall off a couple of weeks later. Anyway, I found that the liner removal still did not allow sufficient screwdriver access. After some frustration, I found that a power screwdriver 'tip' (the ones that go in your electric drill/screwdriver) worked. I ground the bottom end round to improve clearance against the door frame, and wedged it up against the screw with a piece of wood. WIth the other hand I was able to use a pair of pliers to turn the stubby little 'screwdriver'. It would be worthwhile to find the proper open end wrench to fit the hexagonal shaft of the driver bits. I also observed that the screws which attach the interior and exterior plates together, seem too short. I ended up deleting one of two rubber gaskets (interior side), and it still seems to slide OK (no interference). I also applied locktite to the screws before assembly. We'll see.... Needless to say, the bit went into a ziplock kept in the glovebox - just in case. Whew! a |
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report on 2000 cough
Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More
I am back after somehow getting bounced off the list.....thanks to my email
server<G>.... Well, I took the van in for it's 5000 miles maintenance and told them of the "cough" problem as well as the sliding door rattle and also a clicking sound sometimes heard at an idle..........want to know what they did? NOTHING! The computer showed NO errors of any kind..........the "clicking" sound I was told to be "normal"........and the rattle on the sliding door it "to be expected"................geez! Brent and Cheryl Rose Alakay Whippets Alakay's Birds & More and Alakay Paints!!! alakay@... |
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Re: Exploding timing belt tensioner pulley on 93MV
Michael G. McCarthy
------------------------- From: Gbnvic@... To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Exploding timing belt tensioner pulley on 93MV Date: Sat, Jun 3, 2000, 9:49 AM Serves me right for talking about changing timing belts and associated tools! ------------------------- Oh yeah, ain't that the truth. ?I once drove my Scirocco from California to Ohio and carried enough tools to change a transmission (1/2' drive sockets, CV spline tools, clutch centering disk, the works). ?Sure enough, the transmission failed in Colorada, but fortunately there was a HUGE wrecking yard along the freeway where I found a nice 5-speed that I still have to this day. ?I changed the whole thing on the side of the road with the help of my roommate. Moral of the story: ?the fewer tools you carry the fewer things break. |
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Re: Exploding timing belt tensioner pulley on 93MV
Michael G. McCarthy
Great story!
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The question about the l"ong idle vs restarting" is a tricky one. ?If you ONLY had to worry about ignition vs the starter, there's no question that you could idle a LONG time before your ignition would consume more juice than your starter. ?BUT, since modern cars have electric fuel pumps, all bets are off. ?Those pumps use a LOT of current, and I would guess that the breakeven point is shorter, and much harder to estimate. That's interesting too. ?I guess it was risky to continue to drive, but as long as the system was able to maintain proper tension despite the smaller wheel you are ok. ?You say you changed the serp belt 10K miles ago, but you don't say if you ever changed the timing belt. ?Have you? ?If so, when you replaced the timing belt did you also replace the tensioner? ?The reason I ask is I'm curious about your assessment that the tensioner wheel on the timing belt must have been defective. ?How many miles were on that wheel? Mike '93 EV Cincinnati ---------- From: Gbnvic@... To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Exploding timing belt tensioner pulley on 93MV Date: Sat, Jun 3, 2000, 9:49 AM Serves me right for talking about changing timing belts and associated tools! |
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Re: report on 2000 cough
Michael G. McCarthy
I was "bounced" from the list too, at least temporarily. ?It seems messages were not being delivered as email in real time (but they were being posted to the eGroups website) and then suddenly I received a large batch were served to my email account. ?I don't know if any were skipped or not. ?(Generally, though, this eGroups thing is very reliable).
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Regarding the "clicking" sound. ?I have it too, and have always had it during the time I've owned my EV (from about 75K miles to the present 100K miles). ?I have not been able to exactly pinpoint it (other than it's somewhere in the intake system I'm fairly sure), and it does seem "normal". ?? Does anyone else have this noise too? Mike '93 EV Cincinnati ---------- From: "Cheryl Rose---Alakay Birds & More" To: Subject: [ev_update] report on 2000 cough Date: Sat, Jun 3, 2000, 11:53 AM I am back after somehow getting bounced off the list.....thanks to my email |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
Gary Clendening
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You wrote: "For that kind of money, I'm willing to drive/fly quite a distance to find a reasonable price. Kent, I got a bid for one over the net from a California outfit that was right where my price limit stopped. Then I brought that in to my dealer in Waterville, ME and told him I would rather pay the extra money for a plane ticket and drive the EVC home for a vacation. That seemed to reduce his demands significantly. I got our '97 for 31.3K in August of '97. Good luck...make certain you get your inspection of the machine done before you sign on the line. I used a form to check off things known to be poorly assembled by Winnie. Gary from Maine |
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Exploding timing belt tensioner pulley on 93MV
Serves me right for talking about changing timing belts and associated tools!
The serpentine belt shredded while my wife was driving the van-she noticed when she heard strange noises, melted rubber smell, and loss of power steering. I met up with her and was able to drive the van home (took 25 minutes-of course that was all on battery power since the serpentine belt drives the alternator). An aside-interesting thought question. When you lose the belt that drives the alternator on a vehicle, and you're limping home hoping the battery has enough juice to keep the computer and spark plugs firing, which is most energy efficient in traffic: keeping it running, or stopping at long lights and turning off the engine and then restarting. I vote to just keep it running, since plugs probably take a lot less power than cranking, but I'm not sure. What happened? Well, the serpentine belt was new only 10,000 miles ago. I suspected the worse-frozen compressor, alternator, or steering pump bearing. All were fine. Installed old belt to check it out-and found out that upper outer timing belt cover was bulging out because something was jammed in at the bottom of it, and rubbing against serpentine belt. So, the belt melted due to the intense friction. I removed the timing belt cover and found something amazing. The tensioner pulley for the timing belt has a metal inner wheel and an outer plastic pulley. The plastic part had worked its way partly off of the metal inner wheel, and rubbed the timing belt cover for some time, then spontaneously flew off, wedging itself at the bottom of the upper cover, causing it to press against the serpentine belt. The truly amazing part is that the timing belt continued to function with the smaller diameter metal wheel! It had some damage on the outer part of the belt, and was riding too close to the inner cover, but it worked well enough (without my knowledge that this had happened) to drive home 15 miles. Knowing that was what happened in hind sight, driving it home in that condition was a bad idea. I wonder if I screwed something up with that timing belt change. But, we have heard no strange noises or rubbing sounds, which would certainly have happened had this been going on for some time. I suspect that there was basically a defect in the timing belt tensioner pulley. I'll inspect it once I get off. ***Note*** This is a different tensioner pulley then the one the group has been talking about that keeps the serpentine belt in tension. Special serpentine belt tool still works, and came in handy! -gb |
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Re: Camping in WA with Dogs
Rick Gordon
I thought the main issue is they are not allowed in the backcountry of National Parks. This includes both Mt. Rainier and Olympic. Now, I know this means that they're not allowed to be hiking/backpacking on the trails with you - but if they're tied up to an EVC I would think that would be okay.
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I don't think there are any restrictions in the day use areas, other than that they probably have to be on leash. My wife and I are taking our 2000 EVC to Washington (Ranier and |
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Camping in WA with Dogs
My wife and I are taking our 2000 EVC to Washington (Ranier and
Olympic Peninsula areas) and Vancouver Island for 3 weeks in July. Has anyone had good (or bad) experiences finding good places to camp and hike with their dogs? Any recommendations on undeveloped camping areas? Thanks, Keith |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
plthe
Some free advice:
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* try to find one that hasn't been put out on the lot yet. EVCs are highly vulnerable to lookiloos and their kids * when you do buy one plan to spend an hour or two taking delivery--go through every single little piece. Ours was missing the RV battery, one of the fuses & fuseholders and more. And the dealer tried to foist a regular car battery off on us. Remember, they generally don't know anything about the Winnebago bits. Also, try to cut a deal on buying Winnebago accessories at time of purchase. --Lee Th Palo Alto, CA 97 EVC 85 Jetta 90 Cannondale ----- Original Message -----
From: <kent@...> To: <ev_update@...> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 6:04 PM Subject: [ev_update] Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie Can I ask where you had a dealer at $33.5k for a new EVC? The onlyDistance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
Can I ask where you had a dealer at $33.5k for a new EVC? The only
dealer here in St. Louis has them "Mop 'n Glo'd" up to $40k (!). The VW + Winnebago stickers add up to $36,xxx --- my dealer added on an extra $4k for being such a good neighbor. For that kind of money, I'm willing to drive/fly quite a distance to find a reasonable price. Still looking for a new 2000 EVC in the Midwest... ---Kent Phelan --- In ev_update@..., "Kent Kendra" <krkendra@t...> wrote: After 2 walkouts, We had the VW dealership at 33.5k for a new2000. On the way to sign the papers and a few phone calls....we stumbledon a 97' EVC w/ 4k miles...mint condition. We bought it for27k...from a RV dealership. |
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Re: Cost of a '97 EV/Winnie
In a message dated 6/2/00 6:48:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kent@...
writes: << kent@... >> Kent--Burnsville VW had 4 EVC's around $37M, some with middle seats, some without. Also, try Wausau Imports, Wausau, Wisconsin and ask for Alan--tell him I sent you. I bought an EVC from him and he treated me right. Sorry I don't have phone numbers, all my info is at the office. However, Burnsville VW is in Burnsville, Minnesota (near the Twin Cities). Jim Louwsma |
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