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Re: Middle Seat for 97 EVC

Ron Bowman
 

I have a middle seat from my 1997 EVC I would like to sell. It has
been used very little since purchase. Asking $300. Seat is located
in Salt Lake City, UT.

Ron


Fantastic Fans

 

In a previous post, Joan Henley noted that she had the roof vent
removed from her EVC and a Fantastic Fan installed in its place. Has
anyone else done this? I called Camping World to see if they could do
this on my 2000 EVC, and they asked me too questions:

Is it a 14" opening?
Is there a power source by the opening?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Keith Light
Placerville, CA


Re: tightening torque IS 118 ft-lbs

 

Egads! You are right! That tech bulletin does (erroneously) list the
torque spec for the 93 Eurovan at 80 ft-lbs (110 Nm). However I
checked my Alldata-DYI source (see copy below) and it lists 118
ft-lbs
for the 93-95 Eurovan wheels. And who can argue with Bentley.

SO TORQUE 'EM TO 118 Ft-LBS.

I can recommend www.alldatadiy.com as a good source of reliable
information - not free however.

Wheel Fastener Torque
Cars
1982 - 95 All 80 ft/lbs (110 Nm)

Trucks
1993 - 95 Eurovan 118 ft/lbs (160 Nm)
1989 - 91 Vanagon 130 ft/lbs (180 Nm)
1983 - 88 Vanagon 123 ft/lbs (170 Nm)
1982 - 86 Pickup 80 ft/lbs (110 Nm)
Copyright ? 2000 ALLDATA LLC. Version 2.2

I aplogise for the confusion and I'll email both parties who were
recently asking about this.

Thanks to M & T Benne <mtbenne@n...> for catching and identifying
that!

Are you sure this is for eurovans, My bentley manual states 118
ft-lbs.

80 ft-lbs for wheel lug bolts
> reference:
> VW TECHNICAL BULLETIN # 294
>
> DATE: 1995


Re: Battery Power & the BEEP-BEEP

 

I would suspect your auxiliary battery was discharged. If it started
the night with a full charge, it should have lasted through the night
with no problem. I've used mine in these conditions for a couple
nights with no problems. The LP alarm will sound if the battery
voltage drops due to battery discharge.
Marve
'95 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., "rob dudenhoefer" <cdudenhoef@a...>
wrote:
Well I went camping and was awakened at 5:30am to the sound of the
LP
alarm going off. The only things running all night were the fridge
(off of LP)and the aux furnace. The furnace was on and off all
night
and I was wondering if this is enough to drain the battery, or is
my
battery just old? I have a 95 EVC, there isn't a gas leak, and I
know
the LP alarm has a less than perfect reputation. Our camping trip
was
wonderful and if any one has a desire to check out a beautiful spot
head to the Metolius River near Sisters, Oregon. Actually, Oregon
is
filled with a lifetime of beautiful palces. Thanks- Rob


Battery Power & the BEEP-BEEP

rob dudenhoefer
 

Well I went camping and was awakened at 5:30am to the sound of the LP
alarm going off. The only things running all night were the fridge
(off of LP)and the aux furnace. The furnace was on and off all night
and I was wondering if this is enough to drain the battery, or is my
battery just old? I have a 95 EVC, there isn't a gas leak, and I know
the LP alarm has a less than perfect reputation. Our camping trip was
wonderful and if any one has a desire to check out a beautiful spot
head to the Metolius River near Sisters, Oregon. Actually, Oregon is
filled with a lifetime of beautiful palces. Thanks- Rob


Re: Serpentine Belt Tool

Donald Hector
 

vise grips work pretty good too
don evcl,94cargo

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael G. McCarthy <mgmccarthy@...>
To: RocknRolz <erolz@...>; ev_update@...
<ev_update@...>
Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:06 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Serpentine Belt Tool


Greetings Eckhard:

Forget the JC Whitney serpentine belt tool. It's slick enough, the right
length (15"), and the ratcheting heads are nice, but it does NOT fit the
EV.
It has 4 fittings (two on each end, and all four ratchet in both
directions): 14mm hex, 17mm hex, 19mm (or 3/4") hex, and 19mm (or 3/4")
square.

Too bad the EV is a 13mm hex. It's a nice tool. JC Whitney will take it
back no questions asked and even reimburse some of the shipping.

Otherwise, it was EASY to rotate the tensioner with regular hand tools (I
should have tried that FIRST).

Get a long (10") combo box wrench (13mm/15mm). Craftsman has them for
cheap, but of course Matco, Mac, and Snap-on have them too. If you need
some extra leverage use a short piece of pipe over the 15mm side. There's
adequate clearance and you don't need all that much torque as you are only
rotating the tensioner's internal spring (indeed, if you find you need a
LOT
of torque then you are doing something wrong.) You only have to rotate
(clockwise) a short distance to loosen the belt enough to pop it off its
path.

Mike

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From: "RocknRolz" <RocknRolz@...>
To: <mgmccarthy@...>
Subject: Timing Belt Tool
Date: Tue, May 16, 2000, 9:40 PM


Thanks for the message. At 90 000 miles my timing belt is overdue. Let me
know how things go.
Thanks
Eckhard

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Middle Seat for 97 EVC

 

I'm looking for a middle seat for a 97 EVC. I'm located in Long
Beach,
CA. Please email kvapil@... or call 562 985-7908. Jay


Re: EV's, awnings, and fun

Donald Hector
 

isn't that a cool pickup ? i saw it last june at vw jam in maplegrove PA.
it's got a 1.9 non-turbo diesel, which the owner claims powers it quite
adequately.
he imported it himself from germany. i love the stark interior and no frills
drivetrain
simpler is better !
don 92evcl,94cargo

-----Original Message-----
From: Ercole, Chris <cercole@...>
To: EV list (E-mail) <ev_update@...>
Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: [ev_update] EV's, awnings, and fun


This weekend we went to the import car swapmeet and car show at Carlise
PA. It was a lot of fun. A few Vanagon's showed up and we were there in
our '93 MV. I saw a EVC and a really cool EV crew cab pickup. The
pickup was a Diesel stick shift and light blue. Whoever owned it was
running 215/70R15 and they seemed to fit fine. Actually I liked the way
they filled up the wheel wells more then my 205/65R15. The pickup had
really cool side view mirrors too they were mounted on large steel
brackets that extended from the sides of the van more then a foot.

My friend Graham met us there in his '85 Westy. He just installed a
shadyboy awning and it worked great. Small footprint easy to set up
light weight and held up well in the rain. There is a small gap between
the awning and van that will allow rain to slip past though.

I used my $15 home made tarp awning that worked terrific as usual. I've
had it set up in Maine during severe downpours and heavy winds with no
problem and it doesn't let rain pass between the van and awning. When I
use it again this weekend I'll try to take some pictures and scan them in
if anyone wants to see it. It's made from a ten foot length of 1/2"
conduit that I tied a heavy duty tarp to, 8x6 (I think) it is then bolted
to my roof racks with muffler clamps. This does a few things, first it
lifts the awning about three to four inches above the roof line which
allows wind to pass between the roof and awning helping to keep it
stable. Second it also places the awning back over the roof past the
rain gutter so any rain falling on the roof just runs down the gutter
instead of into the windows or down the side of the van. Third it is
mounted very securely with no holes, it is easy to remove and set up
takes about ten minutes. Not too pretty though. The other side is held
up with adjustable tarp poles. I believe you can find these at K-mart or
Sears etc. I found mine in the garbage. These work great, allowing it
to be higher or lower then the roof or you can adjust it with one side
higher then the other. I've found adjusting it with one side higher
works especially well in the rain. Allowing the rain to run off one
corner and not pool on the tarp. The down side and it's a big one. It
needs to be staked out. So setting it up in a parking lot can be
difficult, but not impossible, tying it to another car works well.
Staking it is not that bad though. It only requires two lines one for
each outboard corner staked out diagonally from the tarp. I use the nice
heavy duty plastic stakes and nylon line with the slip adjusters that
came with the poles I found. I've also used this same set up on my
Vanagons with and with out roof racks. With out the roof racks the
conduit fits perfectly into the rain gutter I then used small C-clamps to
hold it in place. This also worked very well but would let some rain in
and did not offer the same head room as with it attached to the roof
racks.

CE


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Re: Engine Fault Codes, late 5 cyl?

Chris Noeske
 

I believe 4444 is no faults registered.

-----Original Message-----
From: M & T Benne [mailto:mtbenne@...]
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 7:55 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: Engine Fault Codes, late 5 cyl?


I got my check engine light to blink codes. One was stored, 4444. My
bentley did not have a listing for this code. Any ideas where I can get a
listing of the trouble codes?

Tobi



OK, it does not matter if the engine is running or not (I have done
this both ways) Open the cover to the fuse area, just to the left of
the steering wheel. Along the top edge of the opening you should have
two electrical connectors, a white one and a black one, each with two
connection points inside. Simply make a jumper wire that connects the
bottom wire of the white connector to the bottome wire of the black
connector. Putting this jumper wire in place should make the check
engine light come on and after a few seconds it will start to blink a
code.

This will give you codes to see what the ECU thinks is wrong but you
can not reset anything.



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Re: Coleman Fuel

Chris Noeske
 

<<4. Is Coleman fuel bad. I don't know. But there are so many things it
<<could of screwed up. It could of burned too hot and burned an exhaust
<<valve. Something in it could of caused some rubber parts to swell in
<<the injection system. It could of poisioned the Cat or BOTH of the
<<oxygen sensors. Since you have ODB II there are two oxygen sensors
<<(one befor and on after the cat) and they look at the cat operation
<<and if the cat is dead it will rat on you to the dealer.

OUCH!! DO NOT TRY THIS! If anyone has ever used Coleman fuel to light a
fire, like my brother(who much younger and drunk at that time), they can
tell you it light very easily! Much easier than gasoline, and burns much
faster. It was probably a bad thing to do.




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Re: tightening torque

M & T Benne
 

Are you sure this is for eurovans, My bentley manual states 118 ft-lbs.

80 ft-lbs for wheel lug bolts
reference:
VW TECHNICAL BULLETIN # 294

DATE: 1995


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Check Engine Light and Coleman Fuel

Steve Kammerer
 

Whilst returning to MD from FL, I ran out of fuel on Rte 4. I remembered a
discussion I had with my daughter a while ago where she said that Coleman
fuel is essentially unleaded gas. Having a gallon of Coleman fuel in the
rear batter/junk compartment, I tried it. My 97 EVC started and ran for
about 3 miles getting me to a gas station without the check engine light
coming on. The motor did ping and knock when I would accelerate. (By the
way, the EVC only took 19.7 gallons including the gallon of Coleman fuel.
Where is the 21 gallon gas tank?) About a half hour later while continuing
on RT 95 North, I noticed the check engine light came on and stayed on all
the way up the MD. I stopped along the way at Springfield VW in VA, where I
bought the EVC and they said they would have no time to look at the check
engine light as it takes 1 1/2 hours to read the code on a Eurovan.
1. Is this true?
2. How long does it take to reset the light? If I reset it and then wait to
see if it comes on again I could see if there really is a problem now. I've
driven the car about 800 miles since running out of gas.
3. Can I reset the light myself or can I go to any VW place to have it
reset?
4. Is Coleman fuel really bad to have used? When I filled up the EVC I used
the highest octane at the pump to try and dilute what may have been low
octane Coleman fuel.
5. Will Timmy drown in the well before Lassie returns? Tune in tomorrow.

Thanks for any help!
Trip down to Sarasota and back was great. Wish the EVC had air conditioning
for when it is parked. FL in evening with no breeze is rough. At the
campground they asked what services I would be using. The lady said will
you be needing "cable TV, sewerage or air conditioning"? I answered, "This
is great! I'll be using the air conditioning", remembering the heaters they
used to give out at drive-in theaters in the 50's. Hey why not little air
conditioners in the 2000's. Well, anyway that's not what she meant.
Stopped on way down and back at Jekyl Island off GA coast. Beautiful
beaches where they don't mind if a chocolate lab goes swimming.

Stevek
97 EVC


EV's, awnings, and fun

Ercole, Chris
 

This weekend we went to the import car swapmeet and car show at Carlise
PA. It was a lot of fun. A few Vanagon's showed up and we were there in
our '93 MV. I saw a EVC and a really cool EV crew cab pickup. The
pickup was a Diesel stick shift and light blue. Whoever owned it was
running 215/70R15 and they seemed to fit fine. Actually I liked the way
they filled up the wheel wells more then my 205/65R15. The pickup had
really cool side view mirrors too they were mounted on large steel
brackets that extended from the sides of the van more then a foot.

My friend Graham met us there in his '85 Westy. He just installed a
shadyboy awning and it worked great. Small footprint easy to set up
light weight and held up well in the rain. There is a small gap between
the awning and van that will allow rain to slip past though.

I used my $15 home made tarp awning that worked terrific as usual. I've
had it set up in Maine during severe downpours and heavy winds with no
problem and it doesn't let rain pass between the van and awning. When I
use it again this weekend I'll try to take some pictures and scan them in
if anyone wants to see it. It's made from a ten foot length of 1/2"
conduit that I tied a heavy duty tarp to, 8x6 (I think) it is then bolted
to my roof racks with muffler clamps. This does a few things, first it
lifts the awning about three to four inches above the roof line which
allows wind to pass between the roof and awning helping to keep it
stable. Second it also places the awning back over the roof past the
rain gutter so any rain falling on the roof just runs down the gutter
instead of into the windows or down the side of the van. Third it is
mounted very securely with no holes, it is easy to remove and set up
takes about ten minutes. Not too pretty though. The other side is held
up with adjustable tarp poles. I believe you can find these at K-mart or
Sears etc. I found mine in the garbage. These work great, allowing it
to be higher or lower then the roof or you can adjust it with one side
higher then the other. I've found adjusting it with one side higher
works especially well in the rain. Allowing the rain to run off one
corner and not pool on the tarp. The down side and it's a big one. It
needs to be staked out. So setting it up in a parking lot can be
difficult, but not impossible, tying it to another car works well.
Staking it is not that bad though. It only requires two lines one for
each outboard corner staked out diagonally from the tarp. I use the nice
heavy duty plastic stakes and nylon line with the slip adjusters that
came with the poles I found. I've also used this same set up on my
Vanagons with and with out roof racks. With out the roof racks the
conduit fits perfectly into the rain gutter I then used small C-clamps to
hold it in place. This also worked very well but would let some rain in
and did not offer the same head room as with it attached to the roof
racks.

CE


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Re: Serpentine Belt Tool

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Greetings Eckhard:

Forget the JC Whitney serpentine belt tool. It's slick enough, the right
length (15"), and the ratcheting heads are nice, but it does NOT fit the EV.
It has 4 fittings (two on each end, and all four ratchet in both
directions): 14mm hex, 17mm hex, 19mm (or 3/4") hex, and 19mm (or 3/4")
square.

Too bad the EV is a 13mm hex. It's a nice tool. JC Whitney will take it
back no questions asked and even reimburse some of the shipping.

Otherwise, it was EASY to rotate the tensioner with regular hand tools (I
should have tried that FIRST).

Get a long (10") combo box wrench (13mm/15mm). Craftsman has them for
cheap, but of course Matco, Mac, and Snap-on have them too. If you need
some extra leverage use a short piece of pipe over the 15mm side. There's
adequate clearance and you don't need all that much torque as you are only
rotating the tensioner's internal spring (indeed, if you find you need a LOT
of torque then you are doing something wrong.) You only have to rotate
(clockwise) a short distance to loosen the belt enough to pop it off its
path.

Mike

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From: "RocknRolz" <RocknRolz@...>
To: <mgmccarthy@...>
Subject: Timing Belt Tool
Date: Tue, May 16, 2000, 9:40 PM


Thanks for the message. At 90 000 miles my timing belt is overdue. Let me
know how things go.
Thanks
Eckhard

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1993 EVMV for Sale

 

White MV, Texas, no rust

Auto, Power Door locks, PW, CC
136,300 miles

New Trans @ 80 K
Air cond system rebuilt last year ($3K)
New VW Cat Converter, rotors, belts water pump
motor mounts etc, etc
Synthetic oil

All work by VW dealer

best offer,

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Re: Engine Fault Codes, late 5 cyl?

Donald Gibbons
 

4444 (or 1111 depending on how you read it) is the code for "no
errors codes stored". It thinks everything is fine.

The EV Bentley book does have a complete list of codes, but I have
not seen EV specific codes anywhere else.


Re: NOW I understand (tires)!

 

In a message dated 5/21/2000 1:44:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
scharold@... writes:

<< Sean,

I run currently 215/65 - 15.

Heres a little table:

Tire Size Comparison
Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile
Difference
205/65-15 5.2in 12.7in 25.5in 80.1in 791
0.0%
215/65-15 5.5in 13.0in 26.0in 81.7in 776
2.0%
205/70-15 5.6in 13.1in 26.3in 82.6in 767
3.2%
215/70-15 5.9in 13.4in 26.9in 84.4in 751
5.3%
205/75-15 6.1in 13.6in 27.1in 85.2in 744
6.3%
215/75-15 6.3in 13.8in 27.7in 87.0in 728
8.6%

I used this calculator:
>>

Thanks for the post. TIC

swlink
s. arizona


Re: Check Engine Light and Coleman Fuel

Donald Gibbons
 

I will try and answer your questions but suspect you might be in deep
do do. First off running out of fuel can ruin your fuel pump all by
itself. that could spread all sorts of crud into the fuel system if
it does not get caught by the filter.

1. No, it may not actually take 1.5 hrs to check the codes but that
maybe the shop time they will charge you for it. This time may be to
get everything ready and warmed up and checked.

2. Some problems that make the light come on will "Go away" after a
certain time or number of starts, maybe 40 starts.

3. No, you cant reset it.

4. Is Coleman fuel bad. I don't know. But there are so many things it
could of screwed up. It could of burned too hot and burned an exhaust
valve. Something in it could of caused some rubber parts to swell in
the injection system. It could of poisioned the Cat or BOTH of the
oxygen sensors. Since you have ODB II there are two oxygen sensors
(one befor and on after the cat) and they look at the cat operation
and if the cat is dead it will rat on you to the dealer.

I "Hope" that none of this bad stuff has happened. If you are lucky
it is just that the gas cap is not tight enough. Also if you are
lucky you did not tell the dealer what you did. Even if coleman fuel
is OK to use it is not an approved fuel and will allow the dealer to
make a big profit on all the parts he will sell you to fix this.


Re: Engine Fault Codes, late 5 cyl?

M & T Benne
 

I got my check engine light to blink codes. One was stored, 4444. My
bentley did not have a listing for this code. Any ideas where I can get a
listing of the trouble codes?

Tobi

OK, it does not matter if the engine is running or not (I have done
this both ways) Open the cover to the fuse area, just to the left of
the steering wheel. Along the top edge of the opening you should have
two electrical connectors, a white one and a black one, each with two
connection points inside. Simply make a jumper wire that connects the
bottom wire of the white connector to the bottome wire of the black
connector. Putting this jumper wire in place should make the check
engine light come on and after a few seconds it will start to blink a
code.

This will give you codes to see what the ECU thinks is wrong but you
can not reset anything.


Re: tightening torque

 

80 ft-lbs for wheel lug bolts
reference:
VW TECHNICAL BULLETIN # 294

DATE: 1995