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Re: Freudian 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

 

I am still trying to figure out the Freudian part. I didn't mention
erecting the poptop even once...<g>

Laurie

--- In ev_update@..., "Nakamura, Roy M" <Roy.Nakamura@W...>
wrote:
So Laurie... eventually with enough time... he would have typed the
entire
EV Bentley Manual? ... assuming there was had a room full of
blindfolded EV
owners with an indefinite lifespan... Typing on computers?

Thank you,

Roy M. Nakamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael G. McCarthy [SMTP:mgmccarthy@c...]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:26 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

he he......... must have been a deeply philosphical Freudian
slip to
"accidently" hit the send button at exactly that moment!

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From: "Laurie Cooper" <lcooper9@d...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 2:05 PM




Why? Is there a deep philosophical reason? Or are you just
an
enthusiastic 93 owner :-)

--- In ev_update@..., "Michael G. McCarthy"
<mgmccarthy@c...>
wrote:
> In most situations. 93's are the only real EV there is
>
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95 EVC High Altitude KIT ?

Frank Goodrick
 

Hi All-

We're planning a month in our EVC this Oct. in
S.Utah/Colorado/Arizona.

We have a 95 Winnie EVC without the high altitude kit.

1) will we need it?

2) my dealer has never heard of free retrofit kits from Winnebago.
Anyone accomplish this with a 95 ?

Thanks in adavnce,

Frank in Toronto ("Jefferson Campervan")

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Re: O2 sensor and cat converter

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Have you ever bought the cat? ?That's a great price IF it includes the lengths of pipe on both ends, and with the proper bends. ?Does anyone know? ?I could call ?www.wrenchhead.com themselves and see if they know, but I'd be surprised if they know every bend in every exhaust piece they sell, and shocked if they know much at all about an EV.

Thanks,
Mike

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From: kgervais@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] O2 sensor and cat converter
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 3:04 PM


www.wrenchhead.com lists the oxygen sensor for $176 us and the
Catalytic converter at $133. ?I've bought parts several times from
them and have not been disappointed.


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Weekenders w/poptop?

Tim Wise
 

Does anybody know if the Weekender package comes with a poptop? If
so, which years? I was inquiring about a '93 Weekender posted here
and it didn't have one.

What are the standard Weekend features? Are there any variations?

Thanks!
--
Tim


O2 sensor and cat converter

 

www.wrenchhead.com lists the oxygen sensor for $176 us and the
Catalytic converter at $133. I've bought parts several times from
them and have not been disappointed.


MV rearward facing seat.

Chris Noeske
 

Has anyone come across a rearward facing seat in the wrecking yard?
I'm looking at retrofitting a seat on the passenger side of the van.
?
Chris Noeske [mailto: chrisn@...]
Project Engineer
Electroimpact, Inc.
4606 107th St SW,? Mukilteo, WA? 98275-4706


Freudian 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

Nakamura, Roy M
 

So Laurie... eventually with enough time... he would have typed the entire
EV Bentley Manual? ... assuming there was had a room full of blindfolded EV
owners with an indefinite lifespan... Typing on computers?

Thank you,

Roy M. Nakamura

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael G. McCarthy [SMTP:mgmccarthy@...]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 11:26 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

he he......... must have been a deeply philosphical Freudian slip to
"accidently" hit the send button at exactly that moment!

----------
From: "Laurie Cooper" <lcooper9@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 2:05 PM




Why? Is there a deep philosophical reason? Or are you just an
enthusiastic 93 owner :-)

--- In ev_update@..., "Michael G. McCarthy"
<mgmccarthy@c...>
wrote:
> In most situations. 93's are the only real EV there is
>
> ----------




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Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

Michael G. McCarthy
 

he he......... ??must have been a deeply philosphical Freudian slip to "accidently" hit the send button at exactly that moment!

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From: "Laurie Cooper"
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 2:05 PM


Why? ?Is there a deep philosophical reason? ?Or are you just an
enthusiastic 93 owner :-)

--- In ev_update@..., "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@c...>
wrote:
> In most situations. 93's are the only real EV there is
>
> ----------



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Re: 93 ev mv wkndr power loss

Michael G. McCarthy
 

An engine of the 90's with everything working BUT the cat will handily pass emissions tailpipe testing, and obviously a gutted cat will pass the visual inspection. ?A fair question to ask is how much environmental damage is done producing a new cat versus how much environmental damage is done driving around with a gutted one? ?There is no free lunch. ?My guess is the best thing you can do for the environment is make sure your OXS sensor is working correctly (my guess is that if your OXS sensor is faulty and slips into its default-to-rich mode, you'll be doing lots more eco-damage than running with no cat at all).


Mike

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From: Brett
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: ?93 ev mv wkndr power loss
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 1:52 PM


I recently had similiar power loss problems. ?My '93 Eurovan would loose power and not rev past 3000 rpm. ?I thought immediately that it was an oxygen sensor problem. ?Unpluging the oxygen sensor seemed to help, but only for a few minutes of driving. ?I limped it over to my friends garage and he hooked it up to the OBD computer and it came up with a bad OXS and bad coolant temp sensor. ?The OXS had been replaced on the van previously and the code might not of been reset so on Friday I took the cheap route and replaced the $11 coolant sensor. ?This morning (Monday) I was back at the dealer buying the $170 OXS . ?It didn't seem to fix the problem either.

It ends up the cat is toast. ?It has a shattered core. ?I cut the exhaust and undid one pipe connection and dumped it out this morning. ?After putting everything back together, it runs great. ?The exhaust rattle I thought I had is gone too. ?Turns out it was the cat pieces rattling around.

Has anyone on the list priced Catalytic Converters lately?

Brett Corneliusen
mailto:afmoa@...
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????To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
????Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 10:42 AM
????Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: 93 ev mv wkndr power loss
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Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

 

Thanks for the info, Don. (I hadn't read your posting yet when I
posted my "why" question about 93's).

Laurie


Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

 

In a message dated 5/8/00 11:08:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gibbonsnc@... writes:

<< So, early = simple and cheap, late = complex and
expensive. >>

Yeah, yeah...The last time this came up it was also claimed that
early=reliable. With this reasoning we have lost ground since the 1st
automobile and we should all be looking for the oldest vehicle we can find.
Rubbish. Vehicles have gotten more reliable every year since the 50's. (Boy
it feels good to vent after work).

Blaine


Re: 93 ev mv wkndr power loss

 

My cat. price was about $300 using a aftermarket and $500 using a VW part.
Justin


Re: Can you canoe...

 

Thanks Hank!

Is weight not an issue? I don't know what the lifting mechanism is,
but I wasn't sure it could handle the weight of the canoe.

Laurie

--- In ev_update@..., "Henry Julian" <hejulian@w...> wrote:
Laurie:

I don't see what the problem is with raising the pop top with canoe
still
on - however; you might have a problem in both raising the pop-top
and
raising the rear hatch at the same time - I use quik&easy mounting
system
with 2X2 cross bars and this works OK

Hank
hejulian@w...



-----Original Message-----
Subject: [ev_update] Can you canoe...


We are considering purchasing an EVC, but we are concerned about
the
fact that we will have to keep taking off our canoe every time we
lift the pop-top. Are there any ways around this? My husband was
wondering if anyone had come up with a device which permitted you
to
actually leave the canoe on the top when it is lifted.

Any ideas?
Laurie


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Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

 

Why? Is there a deep philosophical reason? Or are you just an
enthusiastic 93 owner :-)

--- In ev_update@..., "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@c...>
wrote:
In most situations. 93's are the only real EV there is

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Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

Donald Gibbons
 

93 EV's are the simplest EV ever imported to the US. No knock sensor,
no OBD II system, ABS was optional.

There are a few known problems:

1. Fuel line leaks. There is presently a recall for a free repair for
this.

2. Gages. Many EV's have a minor electrical problem with the
fuel/cooling gage. Its an easy thing to fix.

3. Piston slap. Many early EV engines have pistons that for what ever
reason are too loose. This makes some noises until they warm up. But
it does not seem to cause any durability problems.

4. AC systems. This is the only area that you should really look at.
Right in front (And I do mean RIGHT in front, maybe 3" from the tire)
of the right front tire is the AC system's reciever/dryer unit.
Because its so close to the tire it can get damaged by rocks and
stuff. If its leaking oil or anything else have it serviced and maybe
repaired to keep the system working.

Keep in mind that many of these things have been improved in latter
year EV's but the improvments were combined with upgrade that make
the latter EV's more complicated. In 97 they went to a VR6 engine and
airbags are std. 97's and up are also not avail with a simpler manual
transmission. So, early = simple and cheap, late = complex and
expensive.


Re: 93 EVC - Pros & Cons?

Donald Gibbons
 

93 EV's are the simplest EV ever imported to the US. No knock sensor,
no OBD II system, ABS was optional.

There are a few known problems:

1. Fuel line leaks. There is presently a recall for a free repair for
this.

2. Gages. Many EV's have a minor electrical problem with the
fuel/cooling gage. Its an easy thing to fix.

3. Piston slap. Many early EV engines have pistons that for what ever
reason are too loose. This makes some noises until they warm up. But
it does not seem to cause any durability problems.

4. AC systems. This is the only area that you should really look at.
Right in front (And I do mean RIGHT in front, maybe 3" from the tire)
of the right front tire is the AC system's reciever/dryer unit.
Because its so close to the tire it can get damaged by rocks and
stuff. If its leaking oil or anything else have it serviced and maybe
repaired to keep the system working.

Keep in mind that many of these things have been improved in latter
year EV's but the improvments were combined with upgrade that make
the latter EV's more complicated. In 97 they went to a VR6 engine and
airbags are std. 97's and up are also not avail with a simpler manual
transmission. So, early = simple and cheap, late = complex and
expensive.


Re: ev mv wkndr power loss temp reply

 

It could be your catalic converter is breaking up and pluging the exhaust.
Justin


Re: Where to mount a cd-changer?

 

I mounted the changer under the passenger seat (I have a GLS).
Justin


Re: 93 ev mv wkndr power loss

Brett
 

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I recently had similiar power loss problems.? My '93 Eurovan would loose power and not rev past 3000 rpm.? I thought immediately that it was an oxygen sensor problem.? Unpluging the oxygen sensor seemed to help, but only for a few minutes of driving.? I limped it over to my friends garage and he hooked it up to the OBD computer and it came up with a bad OXS and bad coolant temp sensor.? The OXS had been replaced on the van previously and the code might not of been reset so on Friday I took the cheap route and replaced the $11 coolant sensor.? This morning (Monday) I was back at the dealer buying the $170 OXS .? It didn't seem to fix the problem either.
?
It ends up the cat is toast.? It has a shattered core.? I cut the exhaust and undid one pipe connection and dumped it out this morning.? After putting everything back together, it runs great.? The exhaust rattle I thought I had is gone too.? Turns out it was the cat pieces rattling around.
?
Has anyone on the list priced Catalytic Converters lately?
?
Brett Corneliusen
mailto:afmoa@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael G. McCarthy <mgmccarthy@...>
To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Monday, May 08, 2000 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: 93 ev mv wkndr power loss

It's certainly true that a fouled and/or poorly connecte OXS sensor will cause a variety of problems. ??I disconnected and re-connected mine once and immediately could not smoothly rev the engine (it stumbled badly under load in the vicinity of 3000 rpm). ?The problem DID go away with the OXS sensor disconnected, so that's an easy and quick test.


Mike

----------
From: morrismec@...
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: ?93 ev mv wkndr power loss
Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 11:30 AM


I had a 93 evc and it did the same thing . The dealer couldn't fix it as he
said he had to see it happen . I gave it to them for a week and still no help
as i drove it away from the shop it happened again ,I was so disgusted I
started looking myself even tho it may have voided the warranty.I think the
problem left after i replaced the o2 sensor.I learned to turn the switch off
and on while running down the road ?after awhile it would clear up.There was
bulletine issued by vw that said it could be the contact on the ayr folw
meter that was momentarily losing comtact.

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Re: Water Filters

Bill Segesser
 

hi Joan,
while not as convenient as in-line, we have a 16 oz brita h2o filter that
works quickly (enough) and stores easily.
Bill Segesser
95 evc

-----Original Message-----
From: J Henley [mailto:soreal@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2000 8:51 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Water Filters


Has anyone installed an inline water filter?

Joan
SW FL
'97 EVC

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