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Re: Duplicate Messages

Wade Punch
 

You must be subscribed twice. I am only get one set of messages. Try the
unsubscribe command and wait 2 hours and resubscribe.

I have done that with other lists.
Yep, Reg, I believe you are right. I just thought of that this morning.
I did subscribe directly at the eGroup site. I wasn't sure if we would automatically
be subscribed, as the message said.

Thanks


Re: Duplicate Messages

TYA
 

At 11:35 PM 9/4/1999 -0500, you wrote:
Repeat,

Does anyone know how to stop the new eGroup from sending us TWO of every
ev_update message?
Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?

Wade


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Dear Wade,
You must be subscribed twice. I am only get one set of messages. Try the
unsubscribe command and wait 2 hours and resubscribe.

I have done that with other lists.

Reg


93 EV Engine Fire

Richard Golen
 

Last night got to use my fire extinguisher....unfortunately it was on my 93
EV (which I've owned since new...). I popped out to buy my wife a little
surprise, and was heading home on the highway doing about 70 when the A/C
vents started to blow out thick black smoke. I put the EV in neutral, shut
the engine down and tried to slow down into the breakdown lane...NO BRAKES!
I used the emergency brake to stop. Grabbed the extinguisher popped the
hood a crack and began spraying and then fully opened the hood and put the
rest of the fire out.

It looks like a good part of the hoses and wiring in the engine compartment
are toast! Hopefully the EV can be put back together.


Ric


Re: Duplicate Messages

Bill Salopek
 

Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?
Wade,

I get one of each.

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Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Bill Salopek
 

Let me know what you think they are worth.
Hmmm...maybe $10 each?

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Duplicate Messages

Wade Punch
 

Repeat,

Does anyone know how to stop the new eGroup from sending us TWO of every
ev_update message?
Am I the only one who is getting a duplicate of each message?

Wade


Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

TYA
 

At 04:59 PM 9/4/1999 -0600, you wrote:
My '93 GL's speakers have rotted out...actually, it's probably only one
or two of them...I know the right front dash speaker is bad.

Has anybody upgraded their speakers and have their old ones laying
around? Wanna sell 'em?

On another note...perhaps someone has bought replacements that work
really well and aren't very expensive?

Dear Bill & Eurovan List,
I know a guy who bought a number of Eurovans from wreckers. I will check
with him and see what he has. Let me know what you think they are worth.
We can check them and make sure they work. We are in Alberta, Canada.
Chris on the list bought an air conditioner from the vehicle we are talking
about. I bought the cruise system.

Reg
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Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Bill Salopek
 

I can't figure out how to get the dash speakers out. Let me know how
you did it, I would appreciate it. I tried, but I could not even get
the plastic cover off.
Hmmmm...

I hadn't tried to remove them...I assumed the plastic cover popped
off...have to take a look.

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Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Eckhard Rolz
 

I can't figure out how to get the dash speakers out. Let me know how
you did it, I would appreciate it. I tried, but I could not even get
the plastic cover off.
Thanks
Eckhard


Anybody have old speakers laying around?

Bill Salopek
 

My '93 GL's speakers have rotted out...actually, it's probably only one
or two of them...I know the right front dash speaker is bad.

Has anybody upgraded their speakers and have their old ones laying
around? Wanna sell 'em?

On another note...perhaps someone has bought replacements that work
really well and aren't very expensive?


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ICQ: 20536257
No worries...
Business:
Home:


Re: Anybody have old speakers laying around?

 

Eckhard,
Front dash speaker removal is covered in issue #14 of EuroVan Update. There
are some nice photos showing the grill and speaker. Basically there are
plastic catches that hold the speaker grill in place. Careful lifting and
gently bending of the tabs will get it off.
Ron


Re: EVC Questions / Wheels

Sheldon H. Winick
 

Ken,

>> Here is the info on our '99 Rialta
>> (a big EVC :-)). I don't know if these
>> are the same steel wheels used on
>> the regular EV and EVC.
>>
>> Steel wheels with the following
>> stamped on them:
>> 6Jx15H2 DIN
>> DOT D15x6
>> VW 7D0 601 027

Yes indeed.... those are exactly the same wheels used on the EVC. Guess
they just have to carry a little extra weight on the Rialta. ;-)

What kind and size tires did you get with your Rialta?

Sheldon
'97 EVC


Re: New EVC purchase

Russ Bishop
 

>> The sales person I spoke told me
>> they would never discount the price
>> because they really need $36k for
>> the EVC.
Check AutobyTel and CarPoint on the web. They'll point you to the nearest
dealer who will sell you an EVC for 5% over dealer invoice. It's no hassle
and pretty simple. We'll be picking up ours on Wednesday from the local
dealer who (coincidentally) happens to be 4 miles away.

Russ Bishop
Ventura, CA


Re: EVC Questions / Wheels

Ken Korn
 

Here is the info on our '99 Rialta (a big EVC :-)). I don't know if these are
the same steel wheels used on the regular EV and EVC.

Steel wheels with the following stamped on them:
6Jx15H2 DIN
DOT D15x6
VW 7D0 601 027

The GAWR front is 3527 lbs, rear is 3968 lbs. GVWR is 7275 lbs.

HTH,

Ken


EVC Questions / Wheels / Load Capacity

Sheldon H. Winick
 

Larry,

>> The one wheel I found that had a
>> posted load rating was 1431 - I
>> assume that is pounds and I assume
>> you multiply by 4 to see fit it will
>> support a vehicle (if anyone has
>> data that contradicts my assumptions
>> - please tell me)

Wrong! The EVC's weight is NOT distributed evenly over all 4 wheels. The
front carries more load than the rear. The Winnebago door sticker indicates
that the front 2 wheels of our '97 EVC must carry a GVWR of 3329 lbs which
means each front wheel must carry 1665 lbs. It would also be desirable
that the wheels and tires be selected so they're capable of carrying more
than that to give you a little margin of error in case of overload
conditions. The Michelin Agilis 51 tires and the Goodyear Cargo G26 tires
both are rated to carry 1875 lbs max load. I would think that the wheel
should be rated at least as high as the tires.

Sheldon
'97 EVC


New EVC purchase

Sheldon H. Winick
 

Tad,

>> The sales person I spoke told me
>> they would never discount the price
>> because they really need $36k for
>> the EVC.

Well, my answer to that sales person would be that I need a reasonably
discounted price so I could afford to ENJOY the EVC. I'd also tell him that
I'd never buy the vehicle for the window sticker price because I also "need
the money." You might also remind him that while he says he really needs
$36k for the EVC, you don't have to purchase it from him and therefore
"need" to take your business elsewhere. ;-)

A dealer deserves to earn a fair profit margin on the vehicles he sells, and
the consumer deserves to receive a fair price for the vehicle he purchases.
Window sticker price, with the exception of certain vehicles such as the GM
Saturn line, generally includes at least a 10% -15% profit margin PLUS
dealer hold-backs and other incentives which can be quite sizeable.

I believe someone posted the actual dealer cost figures for the EVC a while
back which you should be able to find in the EV-Update Archives. That would
be a good starting point for negotiation. Call a few dealers on the east
coast. I'm sure you'll be able to find one who will be more than happy to
sell you a EVC at a reasonable price.

Sheldon
'97 EVC


Re: Gasoline Smell

S Hodgkin
 

I found the gas smell from my '93 EV came from the rubber gasket around
the gas filler neck

Steve Hodgkin

Eckhard Rolz wrote:


I submitted this question earlier but I guess it never made it out of my
mailbox.
I smell gasoline from the engine compartment of my 93 5cyl EV. I have
replaced all fuel lines, even the tiny connector lines, yet the smell
persists. I have two guesses, both related to the vapor recovery
system. Either my charcoal canister is releasing the fumes, instead of
trapping them and they somehow get into the engine compartment, or it is
the little black magnetic valve on the firewall that opens to release
the fumes into the injection system. It could also possibly be a
leaking injector seal, but the smell is on the right side, the side
where the battery is located. I have tried to pin it down but I can't
find the source. Does anyone have any ideas? Not knowing where the
fumes come from makes me a bit nervous, since I only carry a small fire
extinguisher.
I hope someone knows the answer . . .
thanks
Eckhard

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EVC Questions / Wheels / Load Capacity

Larry Schellhase
 

My concerns were generated when no one would or could give me specific
data about wheel load capacity. Also, Tire Rack has wheels for the EV
and the MV but not the EVC. The one wheel I found that had a posted
load rating was 1431 - I assume that is pounds and I assume you
multiply by 4 to see fit it will support a vehicle (if anyone has data
that contradicts my assumptions - please tell me)

The curb weight for the EV, MV and EVC is respectively 4220, 4348 and
5235. The GVWR is 5600, 5798 and 5997.

The GVWR for the MV and the EVC are so darn close that I would think
the alloys VW puts on the MV should work on the EVC. I wish I could
get someone to provide me with data that confirms this assumption.

--- Sea2river@... wrote:

The wheels should be designed to carry the maximum
weight of the fully loaded
vehicle whether it be an EV or an EVC. And, if I am
not mistaken, the fully
loaded weight for each vehicle is the same...the EVC
simply carries that
weight most often. Thus, I would be comfortable
using any EV wheels on the
EVC.

My $.02

Bob Williams

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Re: EVC Questions / Wheels

 

Larry, Bob,
Thank you for the comments about the alloy wheels. I agree with Bob. I
think
alloy is much stronger than steel, though the design of Rondo looks
like more
frail to me.
Why does VW put the steel wheels to the EVC? There might be some good
reasons.

Thanks,
Tad
96 Cabrio