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Alaska trip

Terry Tiessen
 

Thank you to all who responded to my question about the drive from Tok
through Dawson. Very interesting and helpful. We definitely have it in our
plans now. Probably won't do the trek over to Inuvik this time around but it
sounds interesting. I will definitely keep my eyes open for a copy of The
Milepost.

Cheers,
Terry
'97EVC


Re: What's the average age?

Winfried Kraus
 

I am 57, my wife is 55.
We bought our 99EVC in August. Its due for the first scheduled maintenance.
We have gone on several camping trips, Indian River Inlet in Delaware is our
favorite so far, and have not had any trouble with it.
We think its the best $33k we ever spent.
This is our fourth VW.
I got a look at the salesmans manual when he left his desk. The profile for
a EVC buyer fit us perfectly. I guess he had us pegged as soon as he saw
us.
Win Kraus, eastern Pennsylvania

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Douglas <sdouglas@...>
To: EV list <ev_update@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:14 PM
Subject: [ev_update] What's the average age?


I was wondering what the average age of a EVC owner was? I know that they
are very expensive and are a lot of money to tie up in a camper, so I am
thinking that it is a older group who can afford one. So who is the
youngest
and the oldest that we have on this list. I was 38 when my wife and I
bought Rex.
Scott Douglas
95 EVC "Rex"


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JAMES RUBECK
 

I baught my evc 97 in july 99. lt had 5k miles li now has 20k.l owned
four older vw campers this is like a cadillac so was the price but we
love it. lm 73. jim


Re: What's the average age?

Steven P. Kammerer
 

I'm 59 and wife is 54. Bought our 97 EV in June 98. Have had vw's since
64. First car was a 59 vw I had in Germany in 1963.
stevek
97 EVC

Scott Douglas wrote:


I was wondering what the average age of a EVC owner was? I know that they
are very expensive and are a lot of money to tie up in a camper, so I am
thinking that it is a older group who can afford one. So who is the youngest
and the oldest that we have on this list. I was 38 when my wife and I
bought Rex.
Scott Douglas
95 EVC "Rex"

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Re: What's the average age?

 

scott,
my wife and i are both 44.we have enjoyed our evmv since new.


Convince us!

 

from Steve Mecham" <spmecham@...>
X-Mailing-List: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] convince us!

Dear Steve, I think you would like an EV with pop-top. Since you had the
older versions before. It's a feeling you don't get in other campers. I
am originally from Germany. I had there an '77 Westfalia Camper. I went
on weekend tours with friends in their campers (other brands), it was
nice but I loved my VW (...and I did not inhale, Ha Ha).
It's so practical. Over here I had a '85 Vanagon Camper which I drove all
over the US. I sold it finally last August with 220k miles on it. 2 weeks
ago I found a nice used '93 EV Weekender (unfortunately without pop
roof). They are hard to come by. Everybody keeps them for themselves and
I cant afford a new one.

For extra tents and stuff I can highly recommend the company Fiamma
. The have awnings, tents, bike racks (better than
"Paulchen") and other camping articles.

Good luck

Thomas in Florida


Re: many (99EVC new owner questions)

Richard Cochran
 

I'd say you're doing OK, with maybe a bit of an air problem, but not
much.

The furnace is what sucks the fuel. The stove and refrigerator use a
comparatively tiny amount of propane. When I lived in my EVC for a
couple of months, I refilled (using about 2.5 gal) around every three
weeks. I was cooking all my meals and running the refrigerator
continuously. But I was in warmer weather, typically keeping the
furnace off during the night, and running it for a half hour in the
mornings only. There were a few cold nights where I kept the furnace
on all night, but not many.

I usually get around 2.5 gallons into the tank on a fill, but I
usually fill when the silly little indoor LED display inside indicates
empty. The tank is still over 1/4 full at this point, judging by the
more accurate outdoor gauge. The tank has a shut-off device to
prevent filling over 80% full, so basically the top 1/4 of the tank is
unusable. So I'm really only using the middle 1/2 of the tank's
capacity. I could get a longer time between fills if I would run the
tank closer to empty.

--Rich

My EVC page at:


"edward a. bevan" <pcbeva-@...> wrote:

I ran it for 5 nights and boiled water about 5 times, 3 of the
nights it was about 10 or 15 below zero ( I guess some people would
say that's extremely cold ). The other two were about 15 degrees
F. I have the manuals also ( thank you very much ) the figures I get
support my suspicions that something is wrong with the equipment,
but they're not conclusive. Just how long does your tank usually
last? Also; when you get it filled, does the top light on your tank
levels panel stay on solid green? Both times I got mine filled it
took just a little over 2 gallons. The guys just look at me when I
ask how much it cost, " it's on us " they tell me.

Thanks
EAB


Re: What's the average age?

Steven Balsley
 

We bought our 99evc in March of 1999. It's our first venture into the
world of VW campers, and we couldn't be happier. I am 39, my wife is
37 and we have a 2 year old daughter.

Steve Balsley


Re: VW manual

 

dear mike ,
count me in for a copy of the manual .
thanks,
george


Bike Racks

 

to Paul Eichen <paule@...>

Dear Paul and everybody else

On my old '85 Vanagon Westf. camper I had a "Paulchen" made in Germany. I
shipped it from Germany.

But or my '93 EV weekender I found some helpful hints on this group.
Somebody recommended Fiamma, a Italy based company which sells worldwide
bike racks and awnings and other camping stuff. I think it's


What a surprise, they had an outlet right around the corner (4 miles)
from where I live.
There model is made out of aluminum and held together with stainless
steel screws. It was a complete rack for 2 bikes with quick release
clamps for $252.-. Much cheaper and better than Paulchen. It mounts
without drilling on the rear hatch.
You can open the hatch without taking the rack off (unloaded otherwise
the gas lifts don't hold the hatch open)).

This rack can easily extended for 4 bikes. Thanks who ever recommended
this company!!!

Thomas in Florida


Re: What's the average age?

Larry Schellhase
 

I would guess that my average age is a little over 28,
since I have been 56 for 5 months now.

The 99EVC is my first VW camper, I had a 86 Vanagon
GL, a 68 and 76 Ford Econoline - each with DIY camper
conversions (bed and storage only).

I had a 61 bug (bought used in 63) a 66 bug, a 77
Porsche 924 (which was more of a VW/Audi than a
Porsche) and a 79 Dasher diesel. My wife (average age
27) has a 98 New Beetle.
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Re: What's the average age?

Marlon Hurst
 

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well, its not a camper, but we bought our EVMV (93) last year: me 31, wife 27.
?
Marlon Hurst
Conyers, Georgia

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: What's the average age?

I bought my 99 EVC last year at the age of 30.

-James Marks

> From: Scott Douglas <sdouglas@...>
> Reply-To: ev_update@...
> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 21:14:39 -0500
> To: EV list <ev_update@...>
> Subject: [ev_update] What's the average age?
>
> I was wondering what the average age of a EVC owner was? I know that they
> are very expensive and are a lot of money to tie up in a camper, so I am
> thinking that it is a older group who can afford one. So who is the youngest
> and the oldest that we have on this list.  I was 38 when my wife and I
> bought Rex.
> Scott Douglas
> 95 EVC "Rex"
>
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Re: What's the average age?

 

morrisme-@... wrote:
I am 80 and my wife is 81 and still enjoy the fun
associated with the camper and all its attributes.
WOW! Great for you! I hope we can all enjoy such longevity in life,
love & VWs.


Re: What's the average age?

James A. Marks
 

I bought my 99 EVC last year at the age of 30.

-James Marks

From: Scott Douglas <sdouglas@...>
Reply-To: ev_update@...
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 21:14:39 -0500
To: EV list <ev_update@...>
Subject: [ev_update] What's the average age?

I was wondering what the average age of a EVC owner was? I know that they
are very expensive and are a lot of money to tie up in a camper, so I am
thinking that it is a older group who can afford one. So who is the youngest
and the oldest that we have on this list. I was 38 when my wife and I
bought Rex.
Scott Douglas
95 EVC "Rex"


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Re: What's the average age?

 

We bought our EVC in 1/98 when I was 35 and my wife was 33. No prior
vans or campers, but multiple prior VWs.

Joel Funk
97 EVC "Obi Wan"
97 Jetta GLS "Yoda"
(Ex: 90 Corrado "Otto", 78 Rabbit "Jack" & 77 Rabbit "Thumper")

"scott douglas" <sdougla-@...> wrote:
I was wondering what the average age of a EVC owner was? I know that
they
are very expensive and are a lot of money to tie up in a camper, so I
am
thinking that it is a older group who can afford one. So who is the
youngest
and the oldest that we have on this list. I was 38 when my wife and I
bought Rex.
Scott Douglas
95 EVC "Rex"


Re: convince us!

Sheldon H. Winick
 

Steve,

The EVC is a nearly-perfect RV for 2 people. In my opinion, that
near-perfect rating declines with the addition of additional family members
because of space limitations. That said, I should note that when we had our
'78 VW Camper, we also had 2 kids and 2 German Shepherds and we survived
just fine with the addition of the side tent and a small tote trailer.

The side tent takes about as much effort to set up as a pop-up trailer, but
is much more trouble in bad weather (rain, etc.). Before the '78 VW Camper,
we had an Apache pop-up trailer, which we also loved. The main advantage of
the VW is it is much easier to pack and is always set up and accessible
(sink, stove, refrigerator, clothes, food, porta-potti, etc.) so you can
stop anywhere and have immediate access to anything (or not even have to
stop for that matter).

With 3 kids like you have, the oldest being in the mid-teens, perhaps you
might want to consider both the EVC and a small pop-up tent trailer, so you
can have the best of both worlds -- and separate sleeping accommodations for
the adults (EVC) and the kids (pop-up trailer). The older kids especially,
would most likely prefer that arrangement, and it would give you the option
of leaving the kids with grandma sometimes and leave the pop-up home for a
more "special" get-away weekend on occassion. As the kids go off to
college, you could sell the pop-up and still have the great EVC for
yourselves. Just a thought.

Keep in mind also that space is limited in the EVC, and if you pack in a
family of 5, you're going to be real hard pressed to find additional space
left over to stow a side tent, sleeping bags and other gear.

The VR6 engine is definitely strong enough to pull a small pop-up camper
box.

Keep in mind that the center bench seat interferes with access to the
cabinetry and refrigerator, so you'll probably want to get the single center
seat option instead (or just wait til the oldest goes off to college in a
few years ;-).

On the other hand, if money is a critical issue right now, perhaps just a
tent trailer and new tow vehicle might be the best solution to your families
needs. A large tent trailer, once set up, is considerably larger that the
EVC. As you can see from the comments of EVC owners, though, the VW camper
vehicles are really a "lifestyle" not merely a vehicle for transportation.
Once you get your first, you'll probably be hooked for life.
<grin>

Sheldon
'97 EVC

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Mecham" <spmecham@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 4:26 AM
Subject: [ev_update] convince us!


Newcomer here! Cool site!!

We are agonizing over whether to spring for a 2000 EV camper w/3rd seat
for family of 5, youngest age 14. Yeah, that means a tent to the side
and stuff on top. A dealer had an EV on "hold" but we were able to look
it over and test drive. It would be the travel and recreation vehicle,
with some around-town and to-work. The prospects for a `98 or `99 used
EV don't look good; we've been watching for them in our area.
Alternative: (please don't be insulted) Durango SUV + tent trailer +
$3k-$6k savings.

The EV being from VW and a camper does bring back memories of cruisin'
the country in the old bus ... Hmmm, the kids probably shouldn't hear
some of those... but boy, the V6 EV sure has differences!

OK. The alternative would be a little better around town and the kids
say we could go 4-wheeling in the mountains (to be determined if we
really would). The $$ difference is a factor. But on the other hand
there would be the trailer to store, and there is more convenience and
nostalgia for everything in one vehicle...

So, a challenge: Can you help to settle this family quandry? Should we
grab one of the EV's the dealer has on order? Did anyone have
experience with something similar to the "alternative"? Your wisdom
would be appreciated.

Steve




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Re: Tok to Dawson

M & T Benne
 

We did the "Top of the World Highway" in August of 1998 as part of our
honeymoon travels through Alaska, the Yukon, northern British Columbia in
our 1995 EVC. The Canadian side of the highway is chip sealed and not a bad
drive. The scenery is supposed to be phenomenal however the day we drove, it
was socked in with fog! The American side, which is the majority of the
drive, was gravel road. We could only do about 50-60 kmh on average and
slower in other spots. There's not a lot on the road. You get to see
Chicken, Alaska (pop. 25) and there are remnants of old dredgers from the
Gold Rush days as well as current placer gold mining sites which was
interesting.

Dawson is worth the trip. It has been preserved and restored to the turn of
the century, right down to the dirt streets and boardwalks.

I'll put in a pitch now for a real driving experience - the Dempster
Highway. It is about an hour outside of Dawson and it takes you over 700 km
of dirt roads (one way) to Inuvik, N.W.T. Check with the visitors centre in
Dawson regarding the road conditions. There's also a register there of
people who've recorded their experiences on the highway which provides
essential information to successful travel. It is recommended that you take
an additional spare tire. It is not uncommon for people to get on and even
two flats during the trip and the only place to get service and gas up (or
even see anyone apart from cars passing on the road) is in Eagle Plains,
half way there. Part of the reason for flats is due to the use of shale to
cover the initial portion of the road in the N.W.T. which can easily
puncture tires with quick breaking. If you underinflate the tires by 5 to 10
lbs, it will dramatically reduce your risk of a flat. We did it both ways
this way and didn't have trouble. It takes about 12 hours to drive, maybe
longer. We did our return trip in 91/2 hours but the roads were dry that day
and we tend to drive like maniacs anyway. If you have squeaks and rattles in
your EVC from road bumps, try to cushion squeaky parts before you go or
they'll drive you nuts! It can be a bumpy ride.

Despite all these cautions, it is well worht the trip due to the incredible
beauty of the region. The tundra rises from the flat to graceful sloping
mountains called pingos. The Peel-Oglvie region has beautiful mountains
almost as spectacular as the Rockies with way less tourists and a majestic
silence that is breathtaking. There are ferry boats over the Peel and
Mackenzie Rivers which operate efficiently and provide a brief break from
the drive. We saw ptarmigan, black bears, and foxes on our drive, however
you can sometimes see caribou and musk-ox.

Inuvik was a lot of fun. There's a good dinner theatre there and you might
want to check out when the Great Northern Arts Festival is happening to
coincide your trip with that. It was around the end of July when we were
there and it just happened to be on then lucky for us. It was great
opportunity to meet Inuit artists from all over the Arctic and buy directly
from them. The deals on art were incredible.

The North is a fabulous trip and I hope you have a long time off to enjoy
it. We were up there over a month and it was too short. We'll hopefully be
making the trip again sometime soon. Have a great time!!!!!


Margaret and Tobi

----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Tiessen <ttiessen@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 1:48 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Tok to Dawson


We plan to go to Alaska in July and are thinking of coming back through
Dawson, YT rather than heading straight back to Whitehorse. I notice that
the road from Tok to the Canadian border is unpaved - looks like about 120
miles or so of it. Has anyone driven that stretch recently? How was it?
For
that matter, what is it like all the way on that loop from Tok down to
Whitehorse where you pick up the Alaska Highway again?

Thanks,
Terry
'97EVC


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Re: What's the average age?

 

Both 27 when we purchased our 93 EV GL. Turnin 3-0 tommorow and still love
the EV. Hope to have one until I'm 90.


Re: McCarthy's manual offer

 

count me in too. Steve with new-to-him '95 EVC. I need all the info I can
get to help me become acquainted with my new toy.


Re: many (99EVC new owner questions)

John Waterman
 

Ed,
Normal scenario is that I think it is time to refill the tank (like just before leaving on a trip) and end up only getting? a gallon or two in it.? I would have to say that I only fill it a couple of times a year.? Spent one night outside my daughters house when it was 15 below and 25 mph winds.? Checked the gauge the next morning and could hardly see movement.? Yes, the light on mine does turn green after filling and the whole system seems to be moderately accurate.? I would concur that a good thing to do would be to purge the system (the Winnebago manual suggests purging the system 3 or 4 times to remove all residual air) and then see what results you get.
I have been on this list for several years and I do not recall anyone complaining about the longevity of the propane tank.
John

"Edward A. Bevan" wrote:

John

I ran it for 5 nights and boiled water about 5 times, 3 of the nights it was about 10 or 15 below zero ( I guess some people would say that's extremely cold ). The other two were about 15 degrees F. I have the manuals also ( thank you very much ) the figures I get support my suspicions that something is wrong with the equipment, but they're not conclusive. Just how long does your tank usually last? Also; when you get it filled, does the top light on your tank levels panel stay on solid green? Both times I got mine filled it took just a little over 2 gallons. The guys just look? at me when I ask how much it cost, " it's on us " they tell me.

Thanks
EAB

John Waterman wrote:

Ed,
Unless you were running the furnace in extremely cold weather, it doesn't sound
like you are getting enough out of your tank.? I continue to be amazed about
how long mine goes between fillings.? The tank will only fill to 2/3 full (the
bleeder valve opens at that point).? You also have guage (which you will need
to stand on your head to read) at the fill point.? The Winnebago service manual
has a section where they do a lot of arithmetic relating to the length of
service under different conditions you can get out of one tank of propane.? It
is stashed away in the van right now, but if you have an interest I can post an
excerpt.
John

"Edward A. Bevan" wrote:

> Larry Schellhase wrote:
>
> > How much was "dealer cost" for a 99EVC?
>
> > $33,098.00 w/ 3rd seat and CD player. No seat heaters up front / cloth
> > interior. Did I do OK?
>
> > > 2) My propane tank doesn't seem to take a full
> > charge
> > Mine doesn't seem to go all the way to the top either,
> >? Sounds like you are using a lot of propane.
>
> Yes that's what makes me think I'm not getting much in there to start with,
> I got 5 nights worth of heat and a few simple meals cooked? ( Like just
> boiling some water is all.) on a tankful. That's not much. How long can you
> typically go between? refills?
>
> > >> 5) Any one know of a way to carry a canoe with foam
> > > blocks protecting the pop-up and rope holding it
> > > down?
> > I haven't tried it yet - seems like the low cost
> > solution, however you will have to remove the canoe to
> > pop the top - a hassle that might be eliminated by a
> > rack on the pop top.
>
> Could the pop top really support a canoe in the up position? Anyway I'm
> against putting a rack on the pop top for many reasons, not the least of
> which is the fact that I couldn't pull my EVC in the garage with one on
> there ( it just makes it now with a pole propping up the door for maximum
> clearance )
>
> Thanks
>??? EAB
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