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Re: is it worth replacing an engine?

IronWood Designs
 

Sorry to hear your experience. Good luck with the fix. We had the
same problem going up a steep hill with the AC on. THe plastic T
broke and we lost all coolant and our Memorial day weekend, all shops
were closed. Fortunately, once the T fixed, everything seems fine.
Advice to all Eurovan owners, think about replacing those plastic T.
There are 2 of them, its a $4 part at the dealer. They don't seem to
age well.


Paul,

Where are these T fittings?

Steve Z


Re: Belly pan

IronWood Designs
 

Noise control?
If it was not necessary, why would the factory add the
expense?


Re: 120 volt / GFCI

 

--- In ev_update@y..., Erik L <erikforward@b...> wrote:
I picked up a 120 volt clock-radio for the van. It worked
fine when we
were plugged in this weeked, but when we were on battery power it
appeared
there was no power to the outlets. I didn't know if this was
normal or if
I had a problem. I did take a peek at the circut panel. The fuses
and
breakers looked ok but I had no light on the GFCI, nor did the test
or
reset buttons depress. Any suggestions?

-Erik
2001 EVC
"Eva"
Erik,

When you are not plugged in to an campground outlet, there is no 120
volts in the van. The only source of power is the 12 volt coach
battery for the camping components of the van. If you want to run a
120 volt device like a clock radio, you need to get an inverter which
will give change the 12 volts dc into 120 volts ac power. Select an
inverter somewhat larger than the amount of total watts that you
expect to be using. However, don't expect too much from an inverter
as the higher wattage models will run down the coach battery faster
and also your wallet.

Richard Cox


Re: Hitch carriers

David Palmerston
 

John -

I just got my Let's Go Aero Herman AT last week (just before the problems)
and I am really pleased with it. It sounds as though the Triple Play will
carry almost as much volume as the Herman, although I'm glad I decided on a
Herman at this point as I'd rather have something that I can easily remove
and leave at the campsite.

After the (some assembly required) about 2 hours that I spent putting the
Herman together (I'm kinda particular and took extra care with the
assembly), I've made some adjustments to the clamshell top closing screws
(so it fits accurately) and purchased some additional hooks and netting to
hold my gear safely in the Herman.

I purchased 3 of the bike holders and find that fitting 3 mountain bikes is
really easy (uses less than half the space) and gives me the whole other
side for our canopy and extra cooler. Then, I think that the rest of the
space will be filled with the porta-potty, tarps, and sleeping bags...

I've towed it only about 35 miles so far, but have decided to put a racing
stripe from the center of the front nose up the entire length of the front
clam top. This stripe will enable me to easier backup with the Herman, as
it can turn really quickly and sharply if the driver is too heavy on the EVC
turning... I thought that the black handle would suffice for this, but found
out that the handle is blocked from my view by the rear seat headrest!!

I really think that the Herman will be great for our excursions to give us
just a bit of extra space without being a huge towing liability...

I'm glad that you posted the pictures of the Herman as it helped me a lot to
decide on a Herman AT vs. a standard utility trailer that weighs over 3
times what the Herman is empty!!

Thanks again, I hope you like your Triple Play as much as I like the
Herman...

David Palmerston
2001 EVC (and Herman AT)
Santa Maria, CA


Re: VW MV Campers, Which Years?

 

--- In ev_update@y..., rvdalton@y... wrote:
I believe VW used CFC free refrigerant (R134a) earlier than US
manufacturers. Were the 1993 EVs CFC free?

Yes, my '93 uses R134a as the refrigerant.


Re: is it worth replacing ... T fittings on '93

 

--- In ev_update@y..., prousseau@t... wrote:
...The plastic T broke and we lost all coolant ... think about
replacing those plastic T. There are 2 of them, its a $4 part at the
dealer. They don't seem to age well...

Paul, where are these T pieces? I am aware of a flange that some
have had fail that mounts to the head. Mike McCarthy has provided
the part numbers for this part, thanks Mike. Paul, do you have the
part number for what you had to replace? Thanks

Humphrey
'93 MV 5spd


Re: 120 volt / GFCI

plthe
 

You only get AC when you're plugged into a shoreline. That's why the GFCI light was off.

Lee Th¨¦
97 EVC
Palo Alto, CA

----- Original Message -----
From: Erik L
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:11 PM
Subject: [ev_update] 120 volt / GFCI


I picked up a 120 volt clock-radio for the van. It worked fine when we
were plugged in this weeked, but when we were on battery power it appeared
there was no power to the outlets. I didn't know if this was normal or if
I had a problem. I did take a peek at the circut panel. The fuses and
breakers looked ok but I had no light on the GFCI, nor did the test or
reset buttons depress. Any suggestions?

-Erik
2001 EVC
"Eva"


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Posting Photos

Madeleine Dewar
 

I don't know if this is something new or has always been there, but when I went to look at John's hitch carrier pictures I ran across a category that says "Photos." It has 30 MB of space and 0 used. Anyone know if this is new or why we aren't using it given the fact we are concerned about running out of space?

Peace, Love and Serenity,
Madeleine


Re: Belly pan

Baldy
 

At 03:40 PM 9/17/2001 -0400, Michael G. McCarthy wrote:

<snip>
Why bother with a pan? It makes a lot of things easier to engineer because
those things don't then have to be tucked out of harm's way. Hoses, wiring
harnesses, fittings, bolt-on components, etc can all be placed wherever they
are placed without any regard to exposure to the elements, and that's a much
cheaper/easier thing to engineer. Also, the pan contributes to noise
control so it has its own inherent little benefit. On the downside, the pan
clearly makes maintenance more difficult as it must often be removed for
many different procedures.
Difficult? Four bolts and 2 nuts? Not difficult, just another step.

Baldy


Re: 120 volt / GFCI

Tom Wilds
 

You only have 120 volt service when plugged into an external power supply.
The other option(s) would be to use a power inverter, or get a 12v unit
which would work under either situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik L" <erikforward@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: [ev_update] 120 volt / GFCI


I picked up a 120 volt clock-radio for the van. It worked fine when we
were plugged in this weeked, but when we were on battery power it appeared
there was no power to the outlets. I didn't know if this was normal or if
I had a problem. I did take a peek at the circut panel. The fuses and
breakers looked ok but I had no light on the GFCI, nor did the test or
reset buttons depress. Any suggestions?

-Erik
2001 EVC
"Eva"





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Re: 120 volt / GFCI

David Palmerston
 

On 9/17/2001 - Erik said:

It worked fine when we were plugged in this weeked, but when we were on
battery power it
appeared there was no power to the outlets. I didn't know if this was
normal...


You are correct, you get 12 volts all the time, but 120 only when plugged
into 120...

David Palmerston
2001 EVC
Santa Maria, CA


Re: Hitch carriers

Madeleine Dewar
 

"(Colorado has had some ..major..bear problems this year)."

No kidding. I was at an Isabel National Forest campground (really beautiful, well maintained with electricity) in August. We were warned about the bears and so kept all food enclosed. Ha! I had a people food box and a dog food box inside my Swingaway box, but never thought to lock it. The bear opened the box latch, took out the people food box, opened it and ate all the Chex Mix, cookies and microwave popcorn!

Peace, Love and Serenity,
Madeleine

----- Original Message -----
From: John Waterman
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:13 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Hitch carriers




Labor day weekend Ann and I decided to get away from the Denver area to
the mountains in the southern part of the state. We figured that it
would not only be some great R&R, but would also function as a shake
down cruise for our upcoming three to four week excursion. We ended up
at Monument Lake, about 38 miles NW of Trinidad. This is a lake and
park owned and operated by the city of Trinidad. One of the prettiest
camping areas we have been in, very inexpensive and extremely helpful
and courteous staff who even came around every evening to pick up our
trash (Colorado has had some ..major..bear problems this year).

Since we planned on taking our Nizzo tent, table and chairs and a
variety of other bulky items in anticipation of our long trip, I asked
Marty Williams of Let's Go Aero for the use of one of his new Triple
Play hitch carriers (he had previously offered me the use of any of his
products for having pulled one of his Herman trailers up to the
Winnebago factory for their review).

To say we were delighted with it would be a gross understatement. It is
lightweight (40 lbs), has a large capacity (a 2 foot by 4 foot platform
with a 30" high enclosure and kept its contents clean and dry in spite
of our driving many miles on dusty dirt roads and coming through a
veritable deluge (enough to shut I-25 at two locations) as we returned
through Colorado Springs. We loaded our Nizzo side tent, the bundle of
poles and stakes, the rear hatch tent, two folding chairs and a table
into it and only used up about half of the available space. It also
slides back on a spine which allows the rear hatch to be opened without
removing the carrier. While not of particular interest to Ann and I, it
can also be used to carry up to 5 bicycles (without the enclosure)and
there can be provision for mounting a hitch ball behind the carrier if
something else needs to be pulled.

For us, this is the perfect addition to our EVC. Upon returning it on
Monday morning, I told Marty that I wanted one. He told me that they
were doing a slight upgrade on the carrier and would have it available
in several colors (including white, which I ordered)in about two weeks.
A really neat piece of equipment and he also offered a 10% discount for
members of this group.

I did post a couple of pictures of the carrier and of Monument Lake on
the Yahoo website.

John

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Re: Europarts-sd.com is the best

Michael G. McCarthy
 

Yes. I got a pair from him a few months ago. www.europarts-sd.com

----------
From: "James 'JC' Gochoco" <ieworld@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Europarts-sd.com is the best
Date: Mon, Sep 17, 2001, 5:09 PM


Hi Michael,

I am interested contacting Steve. Does he carry a rear
wheel Cylinder for 93 GL.

Thanks.
JC




--- "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
wrote:
Greetings all,

Steve delivered my idler wheels today, before noon.
He shipped them USPS
Priority Mail from his own inventory last Thursday
morning, San Diego time.
$44.31 per wheel (list $63) and just $5 to ship.

Great job by the USPS too.


Mike

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Re: Overheating - HELP !! FIXED

 

JC,

I'm not sure you are out of the woods just yet. If I follow what you
are saying is the cause - incorrect replcement of the air filter
housing - its not clear to me how this could cause an overheating
problem...

In any case, recheck the coolant level a few times to make sure the
mechanic correctly topped the coolant level (there is a small bleeder
screw that you remove to let the air escape out the backside as you
are adding coolant to the tank. Try running the heater in the
morning when its cooler. After the EV is warm and the heater is
running, open the hood and check the coolant level, it should at
least at the minimum level.

Hope you have it solved.
Jerry

--- In ev_update@y..., James 'JC' Gochoco <ieworld@y...> wrote:
HI ALL:

I think i have fix the problem. On Satuday, I went to
a mechanic, they replace the following.

1.) thermostat
2.) 3 pcs swtiches for Fans
3.) Flush the radiator.

The labor is $ 60.00 and a total of $ 121.00.


Now they also adjusted the timing. But when I went
home It still overheating. So I waited for the engine
to Cool Down.

After 2 hours. I check every sinle wire on the engine.

Few weeks ago, I have a Complete Tune-up. Almost every
single wire is OK. Then I check the AIR FILTER. GOT
IT!! The Air filter Housing is not properly snap.
After I secure the clips. I did not have any problem.

SO THE AIR FILTER DID IT!!

THANKS YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!


J.C.



--- sanae@m... wrote:
JC,

Need more info, so the temp gauge just started
showing this? Is it
happening in city driving? Towing? in hot weather
only? Is your
coolant level low? what happens when you run the
heater when its at
230? Do you know if the fans work? ...

Jerry



--- In ev_update@y..., ieworld@y... wrote:
Hi All:

I just notice lately that the temp GAUGE has
start touching 230
degrees. I like to solicit opinions to as what
might be wrong in
this
kind of scenario.

My car is a 93 EV GL. Any inputs is highly
appreciated.


Thank you!

JC

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Re: Fw: Dust/Pollen Filter

 

I dont think the newer one will fit but you can use some houshold AC or heating
fitlers and cut to size.

"Christian R." wrote:

I do not have info on that but on the same subject does anyone knows if we
can add
a dust/pollen filter on a '93.
thanks
christian
----- Original Message -----
From: "catzzman" <catzz@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:05 AM
Subject: [ev_update] Dust/Pollen Filter


Anyone know a good source and price for a dust/pollen filter for a '97
EVC?






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Re: Belly pan

 

Mike,

I think Joseph is "correct" in that the pan plays an integral part in
managing the air flow.

If you look closely at the underside of the hood (at least for the 93
model) you will note a scope in the middle of the hood that directs
air past the top of engine so it can run down the backside of the
head/block to carry away heat from the exhaust manifold out the
bottom of the EV.

In a similar fashion, the belly pan seals large portions of space
below so as to direct air flow in a specific manner. The air that
runs through the radiator has to have a place to go, or you lose
cooling efficiency because there is reduced air flow through the
radiator. It would not surprise me if they tweaked the pan design
to; 1. help cooling (by having the flow below create a vacuum under
the engine to "suck" the cooler air from the scoop down the
backside), and/or better manage air flow under the EV for better
aerodynamics...

My 2 cents
Jerry

--- In ev_update@y..., "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@c...> wrote:
The EV pan does not direct air toward cooling and as such is not
like the
Renault in this regard. The radiators are entirely in front and
above the
bumper, where their air supply is controlled by the motion of the
vehicle
and by thermostatic fans. Even if the "efficiency" of the system
suffered
(and it doesn't) at worst all that would happen is the fans would
run more
often, and potentially wear out sooner. There would be no long
term damage
to the engine in any case.

Why bother with a pan? It makes a lot of things easier to engineer
because
those things don't then have to be tucked out of harm's way.
Hoses, wiring
harnesses, fittings, bolt-on components, etc can all be placed
wherever they
are placed without any regard to exposure to the elements, and
that's a much
cheaper/easier thing to engineer. Also, the pan contributes to
noise
control so it has its own inherent little benefit. On the
downside, the pan
clearly makes maintenance more difficult as it must often be
removed for
many different procedures.

----------
From: joseph O Becker <geeko6@j...>
To: ev_update@y...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Belly pan
Date: Mon, Sep 17, 2001, 11:30 AM


The pan has everything to do with colling. Ask a trained
technician for
VW. I use to work on Renault vehicles and was factory trained. We
were
told the pan on Renault vehicles directs the air through the
radiator and
across the engine for more efficiant cooling. Removing it could
cause
long term harm. If it was not necessary, why would the factory add
the
expense?
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Re: Belly pan

Donald
 

Its not so much the air flow it low or idle speeds, its air flow at
high speeds that the belly pan does its job.

Any car that moves thru the air will develope an high pressure
directly in front of it. If you stick the raditor right there at the
high pressure area you have only done 1/2 the job. In order for there
to air flow there has to be a high pressure and a low pressure area.
The air will rush from high to low. And thats what the belly pan
does, creates a low pressure area in the engine compartment. By not
allowing the air flow to shoot up right at the area just under the
bumper and by delaying the exit of the air till around where the
front axle center line is you maintain low pressure in the engine
compartment.

But is this really going to make a difference? Maybe. When the
thermostat gets fully open any additional air flow will make lower
coolant temps. With the belly pan in place there will be better air
flow.

I was going to try an experiment to prove this with 2 belly pans, one
is intact and the other has a hole that someone added to try and get
better cooling. But one pan is from an automatic and the other is
from a manual... They will not fit interchangably...


Buses by the Buoy, you shoulda been der!

Gary F Clendening
 

Greetings Eurobagers,

Think of the clearest blue sky that can hush the pines all around us; add
a breakfast buffet with food from the deep south, the orient, midwest,
Downeast, even some biscuits that looked for the life of me like eggs
Benedict. There was the famous oatmeal along with tiny red potato
hash...all hot and well presented. Bill Kaehrle had been given the job to
oversee the breakfast and he, along with twenty or thirty others, was up
early Sunday morning to prepare. Surround all of this lovely food with at
least 75 vans of all four VW generations to add color and comfort to the
scene. And the coffee, yes, the coffee was great for this diabetic to
kill my temptation at consuming more than I should. You shoulda been
there.

Busses By the Buoy stayed on a two hundred acre coastal farm turned
campground called Thomas Point Beach. For $20 we had large ocean views,
lots of tide action, fifty foot pines, and boiling hot shower water (it
was dangerous). We could camp close together for the social and show
purposes of this gathering. Saturday's dinner included the sweetest corn
I've had for years and thirds for corn, chowder or clams! One could have
a quart of Cherry Garcia ice cream from Ben and Jerry as the raffle kept
our fingers crossed to take possession of that beautiful blue tent from
Eurocampers...not me, again. My wife just let me wander around to gam
with anybody and everyone; met someone from Chardon, OH where my Dad
lives. There was one large tragedy as one of us holed his sailboat giving
sails to campers around the bay. "I knew the rock was there." he told me
as we shared info on using Marine-tex. Richard and a host of campers were
with him at low tide to fill the hole in his 32 foot boat. We could use a
report on his condition.

Sunday's Caravan was mostly right turns. Van Tourists got ocean views,
old fields, Beaudoin College, and even the Androscogin River for artistic
stimulation. Nice trip for us with flags. Many people waved and honked as
we paraded in town. Richard, LiMBO, the VVA, many sponsers, and a host of
volunteers pulled a good time out of a tragic week and I thank them all.
In two weeks it's Campers on Cape Cod...now that should be just good
enough to get me away from Acadia for a while.

Gary from Maine

Gary and Belle Clendening
'97 EVC "Flying Carpet" @ 67,500 miles
207-622-0631
Hallowell, Maine


ev_update: OFFTOPIC: link to pics of commemorations around world

 



Made me cry.

Lee Th¨¦
97 EVC
Palo Alto, CA


Re: Dust/Pollen Filter

 

--- In ev_update@y..., "catzzman" <catzz@a...> wrote:

Anyone know a good source and price for a dust/pollen filter for
a '97 EVC?

I checked VW several years ago and they were $58. Yech! I've been
washing mine like wet/dry vac filter. Seems to work OK.

Richard Cox
former '97 EVC
now 2002 HD Rialta