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Re: Parts update/distribution?
Gary Clendening
Hey Gents and Ladies,
Have you forgotten my complete rear end collision repair documented here? Every part was available for the body work except the steel member of the bumper and the decal saying "Eurovan. I was not inconvenienced hardly at all for such a rare vehicle in Maine. Sometimes luck enters our lives I guess. The van is perfect now with new body, new tires, and maintenance tranny work done. We're ready for five months this year...including the Coastal Highways on BOTH coasts. Gary from Maine |
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Re: EV Factory Repair Manuals
Sheldon H. Winick
Actually, what would really be smart would be for the auto manufacturers to
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simply include the parts CD for every customer as part of the Owner's Manual package. With personal computers now fairly standardized, that would allow any service shop, or owner, to easily look up the exact original equipment parts and proper service procedures as needed. With the cost of mass producing CD's so inexpensive, the cost to each owner wouldn't be more that a couple of dollars, as opposed the the rediculously high cost of the limited production methods that are currently being employed.. Maybe some day..... Sheldon -----Original Message-----
From: wigley@... <wigley@...> To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...> Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:36 PM Subject: [ev_update] Re: 93 EV Factory Repair Manuals for Sale - soon Hmm. The Mercedes CDs run about $90. Perhaps there's twice as much info in the VW manuals? |
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Re: 2000 EV Warranty
The bodies on the 98 and on T4s are galvenized. I toured the Hannover
facility in January 98 and was told that VW had revised the welding proceedures that summer in order to work with galvenized steel panels. Ric gregory kveton <gkveto-@...> wrote: original article: I believe the longer warranty applies to VW's galvanized bodies, which100,000 miles, BUT for EV's and Cabrio's, it is reduced to 5 years or 50,000. |
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Re: EuroVan Magazine Watch
Rick Gordon
Not to be heretical, but if any vehicle on the road today is the "new Microbus" it's probably the older Toyota vans. My reasoning is that they're relatively cheap - I see them being used more and more by younger folks as travel, work, party and even as camping vehicles. Granted no poptop but they fill the market niche a bit better than today's EV does. Cheaper, more reliable, and probably easier to get parts for if the stories here are correct!
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At 8:38 PM -0500 11/12/99, RBIEGEL@... wrote:
Fellow EV Enthusiast! |
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Who has towed what?.................
Team Degenerate
Hi EV fans -
Getting my EV this Fall has allowed me to drop - well sell - my Street/Track racer 1991 VW GLI since the GLi was not a daily commuting vehicle anymore. EV for toddlers... Quantum Wagon out of the toddler duty and now for commuting. Anyhow I sold the 91 GLI this week for $10,300.00 - NO SH%T - yep. not a typo. The car had a fully sorted coilover and sperical bearing suspension, nice tasteful exterior styling and the motor had all the best internal/external/ECU/exhaust modifications to get max power from that 2.0 16V. It'll eat up any stock VR6 powered A3 on street and road course ;-) So... yep it's gone because I saw the light and just decided it was time to buy a real racecar. ( Picking up my incredible 1976 Rabbit SCCA GT4 car tomorrow - cost $8500 w/trailer - and BTW it's easily got 4 times that much money put into it by the PO :-) ) can I tow a 1500# trailer with a 1700# car on it with my 1993 weekender??????? What have you guys towed? Are there any bolt ons to give me more HP???? torque? Please let me know what you folks have towed without harming your EV's Thanks, Bill |
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want aVW?
Although I have had to hurdle many obstacles ( including the $34500 sale
price ) there is still not another vehicle that I would prefer owning. Of course a lot of that has to do with the memories that I continue to rack up with my soon to be 10 year old son. Yesterday Washington DC Air and Space Museum / Museum of Natural History / Monument hopping. Tomorrow and Sunday the beautiful Pocono Mountains. People I work with are floored and always make it a point to ask what we did for the weekend. I live in a Deed restricted neighborhood and keep both my vehicles parked in the garage. There just is nothing else that even compares. <<The above is one big reason I am GLAD and RELIEVED I no longer own any Volkswagen. >> So why bother reading about something, you neither own or like? |
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW?
I can beat that. How about $6500.00 for a 15 year old vanagon. Westy. I
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bought it used for $4000 -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Segesser [mailto:bsegesser@...] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:34 PM To: 'ev_update@...' Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW? and try to get $9k for a 7 year old minivan ;-) -----Original Message----- From: jmf@... [mailto:jmf@...] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:54 PM To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW? chris noeske <chris-@...> wrote: <<The above is one big reason I am GLAD and RELIEVED I no longer own any Volkswagen. >> So why bother reading about something, you neither own or like?Ditto that, and for the dig at the warranties. We're all entitled to our opinions. I don't think Wade will find much sympathy here for his. I don't bow toward Wolfsburg and worship blindly. I think most people here and in the multitude of other VW groups participate because we've had ownership experiences where reliability and value have far outweighed the occasional consternation over glitches in design or parts availability. I've heard Mercedes, BMW and Volvo owners make some of the same gripes about their cars that cost twice as much or more, where there's no excuse for poor quality in the product or the service. I see more old VWs still on the road than most other makes. A few of them used to be mine, which is while I still buy VW: '90 Corrado, 135k miles; '78 Rabbit, 156k miles; '77 Rabbit, 192k miles; -- all going strong when I passed them on. None of them were trouble free, but I think my parents spent more to fix a couple of American cars than it cost me to buy *and* own my first 3 VWs. No one is immune to problems, but I think we do better than others. I know I have. Joel Funk 97 Jetta GLS (42k mi) 97 EVC (30k mi) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A shopper's dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay! Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time. You never know what you might find at eBay! -- Create a poll/survey for your eGroup! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Looking for the hottest sports memorabilia or sporting goods specials? eBay has thousands of trading cards, sports autographs and collectibles.You never know what you might find at eBay! -- eGroup Home: -- Free email groups at eGroups.com |
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2000 EV Warranty
Gregory Kveton
I believe the longer warranty applies to VW's galvanized bodies, which
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unfortunately, the EV is not. Can't figure why they don't go to galvanized skin since VW has certainly lost money on the warranty repairs to my '93. Greg Kveton '93 EV GL <snip> VW is the only manufacturer to offer "only" a 2 year warranty, except miles, BUT for EV's and Cabrio's, it is reduced to 5 years or 50,000. |
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vw loyalty (long, ruminating)
Regarding VW drivers and why they stick with these unconventional
beasts, I don't see it so much as loyalty or even confidence, rather as a habit or dependence. My family VW tree is all true, and I have the Z-plates to prove it... My great-uncle bought a Beetle in Germany in the fifties, drove it to Pakistan (where he was the Canadian Military attache for 15 years), then back to England and shipped it back to Canada. It became my grandmother's car, then my dad's first car. Dad met mum, and they ordered a '69 Westfalia for European delivery and drove it to India and back, then shipped it back to Canada. They used it as a daily driver after that for 12 years; I was brought home from the hospital in that van after being born. A year after selling the Westfalia, my parents got a '74 bus (then 8 years old) and retrofitted it with camper stuff salvaged from the old Westy. For 3 years it served as a daily driver and camper for our family of five; then we shipped it to England, used it for a year there, and sold it for more money than they paid for it. We had already taken European delivery of an '87 Jetta, which was shipped back to Canada, and which my brother (a bachelor, partier, and soldier in the Canadian Armed Forces) now owns and drives with a vengeance. Several collisions (including one with a Toronto streetcar and one with a tractor-trailer) and three paint jobs later, the only major mechanical work as been a new tranny and one cylinder head re-seal. It still runs like a top, and with new alloys and low-profile rubber, looks better than ever! My parents' '84 Vanagon Moonraker conversion (British) was followed in 1996 my own first VW, an '84 Westfalia. After 3 years as a cross-country traveller and daily driver, I sold it for more than I paid for it. Never re-painted. Now I and my own young family have a '95 Eurovan and my parents are looking at it enviously, making noises about getting rid of the Econoline, TR6, and Jaguar (a.k.a. rusty, dusty, and costly), and getting back to their VW roots. Who knows, maybe in five years I'll be buying a '99 EV from them? I won't think twice about it. Marcus Elia Peterborough, ON dela@... |
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Re: 93 EV Factory Repair Manuals for Sale - soon
Hmm. The Mercedes CDs run about $90. Perhaps there's twice as much info
in the VW manuals? Neil Wigley Hi Folks,neighborhood VW mechanic) told me that VW is converting all of its manuals to oneCD rom (their manuals BTW are all published by Bently). I told him that itwas a shame that the customer couldn't get a copy of these and he respondedthat they are available to anyone for $200 (only slightly more than thepaper ones) and that the annual upgrades would run $40 per year if someonewanted to stay really current.set withof the dealer's version of the EV repair manuals. If all goes well manuals.....VW setting me up with a 99 EV, I will not be needing the
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW?
chris noeske <chris-@...> wrote:
original article: <<The above is one big reason I am GLAD and RELIEVED I no longer ownany Volkswagen. >>My guess is he's what occasionally pesters usenet groups, a troll. Usually best to ignore them than start a flame war. Remember the PhD from back east. Matt Dekker mdekker@... |
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really wan t a VW?
Bill Segesser
and try to get $9k for a 7 year old minivan
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;-) -----Original Message-----
From: jmf@... [mailto:jmf@...] Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 1:54 PM To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW? chris noeske <chris-@...> wrote: <<The above is one big reason I am GLAD and RELIEVED I no longer own any Volkswagen. >> So why bother reading about something, you neither own or like?Ditto that, and for the dig at the warranties. We're all entitled to our opinions. I don't think Wade will find much sympathy here for his. I don't bow toward Wolfsburg and worship blindly. I think most people here and in the multitude of other VW groups participate because we've had ownership experiences where reliability and value have far outweighed the occasional consternation over glitches in design or parts availability. I've heard Mercedes, BMW and Volvo owners make some of the same gripes about their cars that cost twice as much or more, where there's no excuse for poor quality in the product or the service. I see more old VWs still on the road than most other makes. A few of them used to be mine, which is while I still buy VW: '90 Corrado, 135k miles; '78 Rabbit, 156k miles; '77 Rabbit, 192k miles; -- all going strong when I passed them on. None of them were trouble free, but I think my parents spent more to fix a couple of American cars than it cost me to buy *and* own my first 3 VWs. No one is immune to problems, but I think we do better than others. I know I have. Joel Funk 97 Jetta GLS (42k mi) 97 EVC (30k mi) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A shopper's dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay! Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time. You never know what you might find at eBay! -- Create a poll/survey for your eGroup! -- |
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EVC's & Roof Racks (Yakima)
As a new member to this thread, I've noticed many posts concerning
roof racks and Eurovan Campers. I have a '97 EVC and I did a lot of research concerning how to put a roof rack system on it. I obtained a mechanical drawing of the pop-top from Winnebago which showed the internal aluminum structure of the roof. I did a lot of measuring and decided a Yakima surface mount rail system would work and still be low profile. To mount the rails meant drilling the roof. After much worrying and measuring I did just that. The machine screws go all the way through both sides of the roof and the aluminum frame within. Large , thin diameter washers and nuts screw on from inside and the exposed threads are covered with a plastic cap. Yakima rail rider towers slide in the rails and hold regular crossbars. I have mounted a pod and mountain bikes and carried them thousands of miles with no ill effect. The only problem is that with the extra weight on the roof, poping the top is next to impossible. I have intended to replace the gas-pressurised pop-top shocks with higher capicity units but haven't really researched it yet. Perhaps soemone out there already has?? Kent Kirkley Dallas, Texas '97 EVC '86 Vanagon GL '81 Vanagon GL '74 BMW 2002 '95 BMW M3 |
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW?
chris noeske <chris-@...> wrote:
<<The above is one big reason I am GLAD and RELIEVED I no longer own any Volkswagen. >> So why bother reading about something, you neither own or like?Ditto that, and for the dig at the warranties. We're all entitled to our opinions. I don't think Wade will find much sympathy here for his. I don't bow toward Wolfsburg and worship blindly. I think most people here and in the multitude of other VW groups participate because we've had ownership experiences where reliability and value have far outweighed the occasional consternation over glitches in design or parts availability. I've heard Mercedes, BMW and Volvo owners make some of the same gripes about their cars that cost twice as much or more, where there's no excuse for poor quality in the product or the service. I see more old VWs still on the road than most other makes. A few of them used to be mine, which is while I still buy VW: '90 Corrado, 135k miles; '78 Rabbit, 156k miles; '77 Rabbit, 192k miles; -- all going strong when I passed them on. None of them were trouble free, but I think my parents spent more to fix a couple of American cars than it cost me to buy *and* own my first 3 VWs. No one is immune to problems, but I think we do better than others. I know I have. Joel Funk 97 Jetta GLS (42k mi) 97 EVC (30k mi) |
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EuroVan Magazine Watch
Fellow EV Enthusiast!
Our beloved EuroVan been noticed in the AUTOWEEK 2000 ULTIMATE BUYERS GUIDE. On page 43 it is written: Model: Eurovan (with an incorrect lower case "v") 2000 Highlights: Carryover model gets remote lock and tinted glass Lowest Base Price: $31,300 What's Next: Redesign in 2002 In our opinion: VW built a New Beetle. What it needs next is a New Microbus Sigh.... we continue to be misunderstood by the magazines. No one can recognize that the EuroVan is so different and unique it IS the new Microbus. I hope VW doesn't dump this design and go with a "me too" minivan design. Maybe a red and white paint scheme would help. Ron |
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Re: EV: VW Parts Distribution / Do you really want a VW?
We all have opinions on this list and I think the diversity of opinions is
what keeps me coming back. Wade has been a long time member / contributor to this list and has some valuable input about VW's needs to pay more attention to the parts situation in the USA. It's a valid point. He had a major issue with the availability of a part. VW did a poor job satisfying his need and has now lost a customer. Maybe if VW was more responsive Wade would be driving a VW instead of a Honda. Hope someone from VW is listening. Ron |
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Re: EV: 2000 EV Warranty
Ev is more of a commercial van for VW and carries a lesser warranty
because of that. It would be harder for VW to better warranty the consumer vans and not the fleet or commercial units. EVs also do not have the double galvanized metal panels that the new VWs are getting for the higher Corrosion warranty. Cabrio is still based on the older floor plan and not the new Golf plan and will keep the old warranties until it is reworked next year. It would be nice if the EV was Galvanized but how much more would I have to pay for it. VW also is a true bumper to bumper 2 year warranty ie light bulbs and wiper blades etc. Check out some of the fine print on the 3/36 warranties. Neither will steer me away from diving a VW. Also the 10/100k is transferable to a family member or a 5/50 to the next owner. Yegs. ---------------------------- wade punch <punchw-@...> wrote: original article: Looking at a listing of auto warranties for the 2000 model year, I100,000 miles, BUT for EV's and Cabrio's, it is reduced to 5 years or 50,000. |
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