Re: 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
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There is a document somewhere online on transmission temps and fluid life.? If I remember 235 f on occasion is not gonna kill a synthetic atf.? ?It will reduce life to years not decades. Running at? 250 F? or 260 f? takes it down to months. Sorry I can't find the document right now.??
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 12:56 PM, Kozmo wrote:
What do you, or others, consider to be dangerously high temps?
Not Phil, but I say anything over 200 is asking for trouble.? It can climb quickly after that, so 200 gives you time to find a stopping place to cool down.? I've only had to stop twice and ran the a/c (for fans) both times.? Temp was back down to 170 within 5 minutes.? When it does get hot, just change the fluid when you get home.? (If it happens to hit 278, 4th gear will be locked out.) FYI, the biggest cause of high temps is having the torque converter unlock.? It's easy to push just a tad too hard on the gas pedal and cause that, especially on a climb.? Unfortunately, I haven't found a signal to monitor lockup other than watching the tach because it's an electro-mechanical lockup. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 216K Miles
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
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Phil, thanks for this info. Very interesting. I had a cooler installed on my ¡®99EVC, but according to my Scanguage still get hot on those steep slow roads where I spend a lot of miles. I had considered adding an override switch to activate the cooling fans. What do you think of that? You mention using the AC to activate the fans. Hmmm. Do you see a significant transmission temperature response when you do that? ? What do you, or others, consider to be dangerously high temps? My TFT has gotten up to 235 with the cooler for short periods. Makes me nervous. I don¡¯t know how high it went before the cooler was installed cuz I didn¡¯t have the Scangauge. ? Thanks / Kozmo ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Phil Sent: Friday, June 17, 2022 5:06 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [eurovanupdate] 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s #tranny ? Tom
I¡¯ve had a cooler since I bought my EV @82 kmi in 2007 and a dip stick about the same time. ?I change my ATF from above (since about 180kmi thru the dipstick for ease between every 10 kmi to 15 kmi, and although it varies, I change the filter ( and fluid ) both about every 30 to 40 km, I¡¯m still establishing that pattern. ?The dip method yields 2.7 L to 3.4 L typically (may depend on how long you wait - overnight- for the fluid to drain back to the reservoir. The filter, ATF bottom change yields 1 gallon plus about 400 to 700 ml again depending on waiting on overnight draining.
I switched to Valvaline Maxlife at about 180 kmi and am perfectly happy with it. ?I have the original trans, although at about 227 kmi I had to pull it and send it to GTA in Bend Or. due to a couple buck seal on the front of the trans pump (internal) so I decided to have it looked over and any wear points replaced by a company I fully trusted by many EVs and mechanics reviews as at 227 I figured it only made sense, even though my trans has never had issues- parts do wear out.
? ? ?To me, having a cooler only makes sense as in my research, I believe that overheating of the ATF is the fastest way to kill a trans in these. I also have a Scanguage permanently mounted on my dash. ?I am not obsessive about it, but when in stop and go traffic or steep dirt roads where you must go slow, even with running the AC to keep the cooling fans on, the temp can go up, but rarely uncomfortably with the cooler. ?Treat it well, don¡¯t overheat the fluid, and it will treat you well. ?Mine runs as well now as when I bought it, and I still take long trips in it without concern. YMMV (and no doubt will). ?Happy Trails
Phil B. 2003 ?EV WE 318 kmi? ? ?
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
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Tom
I¡¯ve had a cooler since I bought my EV @82 kmi in 2007 and a dip stick about the same time. ?I change my ATF from above (since about 180kmi thru the dipstick for ease between every 10 kmi to 15 kmi, and although it varies, I change the filter ( and fluid ) both about every 30 to 40 km, I¡¯m still establishing that pattern. ?The dip method yields 2.7 L to 3.4 L typically (may depend on how long you wait - overnight- for the fluid to drain back to the reservoir. The filter, ATF bottom change yields 1 gallon plus about 400 to 700 ml again depending on waiting on overnight draining.
I switched to Valvaline Maxlife at about 180 kmi and am perfectly happy with it. ?I have the original trans, although at about 227 kmi I had to pull it and send it to GTA in Bend Or. due to a couple buck seal on the front of the trans pump (internal) so I decided to have it looked over and any wear points replaced by a company I fully trusted by many EVs and mechanics reviews as at 227 I figured it only made sense, even though my trans has never had issues- parts do wear out.
? ? ?To me, having a cooler only makes sense as in my research, I believe that overheating of the ATF is the fastest way to kill a trans in these. I also have a Scanguage permanently mounted on my dash. ?I am not obsessive about it, but when in stop and go traffic or steep dirt roads where you must go slow, even with running the AC to keep the cooling fans on, the temp can go up, but rarely uncomfortably with the cooler. ?Treat it well, don¡¯t overheat the fluid, and it will treat you well. ?Mine runs as well now as when I bought it, and I still take long trips in it without concern. YMMV (and no doubt will). ?Happy Trails
Phil B. 2003 ?EV WE 318 kmi?
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 06:36 PM, willgreer wrote:
I'm interested what other folks are using
I've been using Febi-Bilstein 29934 for almost all of the late model transmissions, mostly on Rialtas.? Some folks use the Pentosin, but many have switched over to Valvoline MaxLife.? The Febi and Pentosin are light brown, the Valvoline is red.? Recently, a couple of folks have used the Pentosin ATF6 which is supposed to be the replacement for ATF1, but I haven't heard any additional reports.
Also, is anyone using a dipstick AND an aftermarket Transmission cooler?
A lot of the Rialta folks have both, but I don't really think a dipstick is needed.? Makes the fluid easier to get in is about all it accomplishes (unless you suspect a leak and want to watch the level closer).? Using the external cooler and/or dipstick doesn't change anything as far as doing a fluid change.? You do it by the book, then compare what the dipstick says, usually half way between the dots.? Once the level is correct, you can check the fluid at other temps to see where it will ride (higher for hot, lower for cold) so you don't have to always check it at 95-113F (35-45C). As far as I know, the only place to get a dipstick and tube would be a scrapyard.? I made and sold almost 2000 kits, but haven't found anyone willing to invest the time and money ($$$$$) to make more since I don't want the job. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 216K Miles
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left?
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You can rebush the pendulum mount (bottom of engine ivo oil pan). But you can¡¯t ¡°rebush¡± the upper mounts. In theory you could replace the metal/rubber ¡°canister¡± without doing the carrier bracket on the upper left side but I¡¯ve never seen the canister available by itself, new anyway.
I¡¯ve replaced the pendulum mount (including engine side bushing) and right side mount but had avoided the left mount due to availability/pricing. I can¡¯t avoid the left mount any longer (it¡¯s letting me know it¡¯s done after 19yrs).
Amazon sells the MTC one for $100. I¡¯m skeptical on the brand so please report back your findings for the benefit of the community.?
I¡¯ve ordered one from Europa Parts (in NJ) for a bit over $400 including shipping. Based on the description (¡° OE Aftermarket¡±), I¡¯m expecting Lemf?rder. I¡¯ll report back when swap is done.
Brian (Sent from my iPhone)
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On Jun 16, 2022, at 19:52, Roger Jeck <oceanis@...> wrote:
? Long time lurker, but to help out a fellow e-vaner. I found one last year when doing timing chain/guides/tensioner dance. I will dig up the contact info and share, will also be curious if it is poss to re-bush the old one. ~ Roger ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Duane
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [eurovanupdate] 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left? #tranny ? On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 01:18 AM, willgreer wrote: Does anyone have a source for the "Upper left" Transmission mount for a 2003 EV MV?? (Ref Lemfoerder / VW # 2537001)
I'm not sure if will help any, but I think the VW part number is 7D0399107AL.
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Duane
05HD Rialta
216K Miles
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left?
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Long time lurker, but to help out a fellow e-vaner. I found one last year when doing timing chain/guides/tensioner dance. I will dig up the contact info and share, will also be curious if it is poss to re-bush the old one. ~ Roger ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: DuaneSent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:51 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [eurovanupdate] 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left? #tranny ? On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 01:18 AM, willgreer wrote: Does anyone have a source for the "Upper left" Transmission mount for a 2003 EV MV?? (Ref Lemfoerder / VW # 2537001)
I'm not sure if will help any, but I think the VW part number is 7D0399107AL.
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Duane
05HD Rialta
216K Miles
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2003 EV Transmission fluid and dipstick?'s
#tranny
Hi All,
I've been using Pentosin ATF-1 for transmission fluid on my EV, but Pentosin has discontinued ATF-1 and it's been replaced at my local parts store.? I love that smell and know Pentosin ATF-1 is still available, but I'm interested what other folks are using?? (Febi, Liqui Moly, ZF, Fuchs, Motul, other?).
Also, is anyone using a dipstick AND an aftermarket Transmission cooler?? Where can I get the dipstick conversion, and I'm curious how much more fluid is required and if using the DIPSTICK with the COOLER changes the "normal" fluid filling process.??
Thanks,
Tom
2003 EV MV?
220K
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left?
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 07:49 AM, Duane wrote:
Thanks Duane, that sure does help!!!? I just got that same PN from the dealer minutes ago and because of you, found and ordered one on Amazon for $100.? I greatly appreciate your help here!?
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Re: 2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left?
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On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 01:18 AM, willgreer wrote:
Does anyone have a source for the "Upper left" Transmission mount for a 2003 EV MV?? (Ref Lemfoerder / VW # 2537001)
I'm not sure if will help any, but I think the VW part number is 7D0399107AL. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 216K Miles
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2003 EV Transmission Mount - Upper Left?
#tranny
Hi, Does anyone have a source for the "Upper left" Transmission mount for a 2003 EV MV?? (Ref Lemfoerder / VW # 2537001) Auto Trans Mount.
I've tried many sources, and they are all out of stock and claim the part has been discontinued or currently unavailable.? Or is there a way to rebuild the bushings?
Thanks!
Tom
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On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 01:21 PM, Duane wrote:
ev_update, so if you haven't already, that would be a good alias to add
I just realized that underscores aren't allowed in a group name or alias, so this wouldn't work.? Sorry.? ev-update could be used, but evupdate is still in use. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 216K Miles
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 05:18 PM, Rick Gordon wrote:
If I can get the evupdate name freed up, perhaps we can establish that as an alias. but i actually like using "eurovan" in the title.
The group name on YG was actually ev_update, so if you haven't already, that would be a good alias to add.
Assuming VW doesn't get feisty about it, it eliminates the confusion over EV meaning "Electric Vehicle" that has occurred over the years.
Will the new VW electric vehicle, like the Buzz, be the EVEV? ;>) -- Duane 05HD Rialta 216K Miles
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I browse bringatrailer dot com and carsandbids dot com and have seen Eurovan campers bring good prices there for pristine, everything works, rust free examples.?
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On Jun 3, 2022, at 6:44 PM, Judy Hicks <info@...> wrote:
? Yes! Let¡¯s see some pix and hear the specs. ? There are lots of potential options other than those you've mentioned.? Craigslist, letGo and the like.? If you are looking to sell to a VW enthusiast (maybe a good or bad option) you might try? .?
Finally, people list them on this group somewhat regularly too.? That might be a good place to start!??
Good luck! ? On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:46 PM Thor Simon <tls@...> wrote: We're looking to sell our low-mileage 2003.? It's in relatively good shape
but only attracted lowball offers on eBay.
I had an email conversation with Poptop Heaven but I did not like the vibe
I got from them at all (they would not make it clear whether they were
interested in purchasing the van themselves or would simply take it on
consignment, and would not really have any discussions about value or
transaction details unless I signed a consignment agreement obligating me
to ship the van to California).
It looks like GoWesty no longer purchases and resells vans.? I don't see
many - hardly any really - EVCs on RV-auction sites so I suspect I'd get
the same outcome I saw on eBay.
We'll miss the van but definitely want to sell rather than letting it sit
unused and rot.? Where is the right place to sell an EVC?
--
?Thor Lancelot Simon? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?tls@...
? ? "Somehow it works like a joke, but it makes no sense."
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --Gilbert Gottfried
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I appreciate all the quick advice. We've lurked here for many years
picking up this and that information about our EVC but hadn't been reading
regularly the past few years. Didn't realize it was OK to send for-sale
notes here.
The van has 53,341 miles. Needs a bit of minor this and that which we
would have attended to this spring if we hadn't concluded it's just the
wrong vehicle for my folks (who are not getting any younger) at this point
in their lives. Climbing up into the upper bunk is getting to be a bit of
a struggle for them and we want to get rid of our shared van they can no
longer really share and get them into something they can use comfortably.
No rust to speak of despite being a New York (suburbs) car - though one of
the reasons we had the original BBQ-style tank taken off and replaced with
the "sausage" style was that _it_ was getting a bit rusty. New tank is
fine and of course improves ground clearance a bit.
I put up a classified ad at TheSamba on the recommendation of several
people who emailed me on the list and privately -
Thor
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Yes! Let¡¯s see some pix and hear the specs. ? There are lots of potential options other than those you've mentioned.? Craigslist, letGo and the like.? If you are looking to sell to a VW enthusiast (maybe a good or bad option) you might try? .?
Finally, people list them on this group somewhat regularly too.? That might be a good place to start!??
Good luck! ?
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On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:46 PM Thor Simon < tls@...> wrote: We're looking to sell our low-mileage 2003.? It's in relatively good shape
but only attracted lowball offers on eBay.
I had an email conversation with Poptop Heaven but I did not like the vibe
I got from them at all (they would not make it clear whether they were
interested in purchasing the van themselves or would simply take it on
consignment, and would not really have any discussions about value or
transaction details unless I signed a consignment agreement obligating me
to ship the van to California).
It looks like GoWesty no longer purchases and resells vans.? I don't see
many - hardly any really - EVCs on RV-auction sites so I suspect I'd get
the same outcome I saw on eBay.
We'll miss the van but definitely want to sell rather than letting it sit
unused and rot.? Where is the right place to sell an EVC?
--
?Thor Lancelot Simon? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?tls@...
? ? "Somehow it works like a joke, but it makes no sense."
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --Gilbert Gottfried
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Hi Jonathan, I have a non-working Norcold fridge in our 95 Eurovan so I'd give yours a good home!? And i live in the Bay Area also (Santa Rosa).?
Please let me know if it's still available!
Thanks,
On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 12:08 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie via groups.io <jonathanmackenzie@...> wrote: A few years back a very nice person let me have a Norcold 3163 for free because they had upgraded to a different model fridge, and needed to clear out their garage. It has been sitting in my garage ever since. It has an altitude kit fitted. Now it is my turn to clear out the garage and I can let it go for the same price.
Based in the Bay Area, California and can drop off if anyone local wants a spare fridge.
- Jonathan 1999 EVC.
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We purchased our ¡®95 Eurovan Camper from an ad we found on the ¡°Samba¡± about 5 years ago now.?
We¡¯ve also found some harder to find parts there we well.
Best of luck on the sale.
Craig?
On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 3:46 PM Thor Simon < tls@...> wrote: We're looking to sell our low-mileage 2003.? It's in relatively good shape
but only attracted lowball offers on eBay.
I had an email conversation with Poptop Heaven but I did not like the vibe
I got from them at all (they would not make it clear whether they were
interested in purchasing the van themselves or would simply take it on
consignment, and would not really have any discussions about value or
transaction details unless I signed a consignment agreement obligating me
to ship the van to California).
It looks like GoWesty no longer purchases and resells vans.? I don't see
many - hardly any really - EVCs on RV-auction sites so I suspect I'd get
the same outcome I saw on eBay.
We'll miss the van but definitely want to sell rather than letting it sit
unused and rot.? Where is the right place to sell an EVC?
--
?Thor Lancelot Simon? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?tls@...
? ? "Somehow it works like a joke, but it makes no sense."
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --Gilbert Gottfried
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There are lots of potential options other than those you've mentioned.? Craigslist, letGo and the like.? If you are looking to sell to a VW enthusiast (maybe a good or bad option) you might try? .?
Finally, people list them on this group somewhat regularly too.? That might be a good place to start!??
Good luck!
On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 1:46 PM Thor Simon < tls@...> wrote: We're looking to sell our low-mileage 2003.? It's in relatively good shape
but only attracted lowball offers on eBay.
I had an email conversation with Poptop Heaven but I did not like the vibe
I got from them at all (they would not make it clear whether they were
interested in purchasing the van themselves or would simply take it on
consignment, and would not really have any discussions about value or
transaction details unless I signed a consignment agreement obligating me
to ship the van to California).
It looks like GoWesty no longer purchases and resells vans.? I don't see
many - hardly any really - EVCs on RV-auction sites so I suspect I'd get
the same outcome I saw on eBay.
We'll miss the van but definitely want to sell rather than letting it sit
unused and rot.? Where is the right place to sell an EVC?
--
?Thor Lancelot Simon? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?tls@...
? ? "Somehow it works like a joke, but it makes no sense."
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --Gilbert Gottfried
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Where¡¯s the van at? ?I know someone in Idaho that¡¯s looking for one. Where I am in the Bay Area they are fetching a pretty good price. ?
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Duane
Craig
Bob H