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V6 Disappointing tire mileage--14,000

 

Friends, what in the world could cause me to have such lousy mileage on the
tires of my 1997 EVC?

My van now has 41,000 miles, and I have gotten only 14,000 miles out of each
set of tires. The first set were the Goodyear Cargo tires, followed by two
sets of Vredestein. I am near the end of that third set right now.

I keep the inflation at 45-50 lbs. I drive sanely around town, though the
overwhelming percentage of miles I put on my van is on the highway. My tires
wear evenly, and there is no pulling on the steering wheel: no sign of an
alignment problem, in other words.

My next tires will be the Agilis, where I can get that 40,000 mile guarantee.


V6 Bilstein shocks

 

<<Joel Funk asks about the Bilsteins: How much difference have the

Bilsteins really made on these newer EVCs, and in what ways? Smoother?

Better handling? Better tire wear? What else? >>

I know that some people on the list really like their Bilsteins. My reaction
to these shocks which I have had for 6 months is: No big deal. I do not
perceive any difference between the Bilsteins and the original shocks in the
handling or smoothness of the vehicle, the cornering ability, the tire wear,
or anything else.


Front end squeaking

 

<<Macon,

I vaguely recall a post about this a few months ago. A spacer had been

left off in the installation or something like that which allowed the

shocks to move up an down. Sorry I can't be more specific. Might try

and grab one of them and move it up and down to see if you get that

noise.

John>>

John, thanks. Actually, that earlier post was mine. After the Bilsteins
were installed, I heard a clunk from the both sides of the front end (the
same location as the squeak now), when I went over a speed bump or a small
pothole. I took it back to the repair shop and they said that the Bilsteins
were the source. They told me that the shaft on the top of the Bilsteins was
longer than the VW shock and that they would have to cut it down and add a
bushing to make it work. Hmmmmm, I am wondering if this was all a bunch of
BS.

-Macon


Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

 

Hey Volks,

I was in Brooklyn Freightliner one day picking up parts and saw a fire
extinguisher on the counter that had the red body but the nozzle had a
sprinkler system type spigot on it. I had to ask what it was for the parts
guy said "It's automatic if a fire starts under the hood a plastic pin melts
and it goes off." You never have to open up the hood. New York City has these
on every truck the city owns. I never asked cost but I think this would be a
good investment.

R&R Greaker
95 Eurobago
82 Diesel Westi


Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

Norman Leong
 

I dropped mine off. I suspect that Ric is VERY fast with a fire extinguisher, and that had he (Ric) been a milli-second slower the van would have been a total loss....

Which leads me to ask a question I've been meaning to ask for several weeks.. Ric, what size (and type) extinguisher were you using. Those of you that carry extinguishers, what do you all use? I've got a 530gr. halon extinguisher and am wondering how interesting the firefight would be. :)

Norman

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Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

Moe Walters
 

Todd,

I paid $450 or so, the gas tank is removed which is a cumbersome procedure (some of the front suspension needs to come out...)

You really should fix/get the line fixed; I saw Ric Golen's van when I dropped mine off. I suspect that Ric is VERY fast with a fire extinguisher, and that had he (Ric) been a milli-second slower the van would have been a total loss....

Moe Walters

VW said nothing about not driving the van when I called. If the problem
(i.e. smell or fuel leaking) comes back again, I'll get it fixed for sure.
Anyone had this fixed at the dealership and know how much it costs?

Todd

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Roof Vent for '93 GL

Bill Salopek
 

Hi all,

Anybody put a roof vent in their EV (in my case EV GL).

I'd like to get some ventilation toward the back, have a place for heat
to escape when the EV is parked in the sun, and hopefully stop the wind
buffeting from the front door windows.

I'm concerned with the rear A/C ductwork that appears to run the length
of the rear roof area...not sure if there's room there to install, say,
a 12"x12" roof vent.

Also concerned with any "whistling sounds" from the wind at highway
speeds with the vent open or more importantly, when it's closed.

Thoughts?

Thanks...

--

Bill Salopek
ICQ: 20536257
No worries...
Business:
Home:


Re: EV fuel lines

 

Yes, the two systems (75 to 93) are very much different but parts share
many functions. While the EV has a fuel rail that is much more reliable
then the lines and hoses on the bus they both have nearly the same fuel
pressure.

My point was that the metal ferulles used on the bus had given many
owners questions much the same as the metal crimp fittings on the EV.

Do you think the spring type clamps used in a few places on the EV
system are better then the high quality German (not just plane hose
clamps) hose clamps I have used on many other VW's?

It seems like the spring action of the spring clamps would maintain
pressure when used on a new hose. However, I replaced a coolant hose on
this EV some time ago and the factory spring clamps took quite a while
to seal the joint completly. Not too much a problem for coolant but
another matter for fuel!


Light bulbs for switches?

 

Does anyone know the p/n and source for the bulbs that provide the
back-lighting in the rocker switches(headlight etc...)?. VW says that
the switch assy. is not repairable.


Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

ROBERT N BANWART
 

You're taking a big, big chance Todd. I don't think it's worth it. The
fuel line problem can be intermittent and come back at a moment's
notice...stronger than ever. I'd recommend getting it fixed immediately.
It's not that expensive, and if VW does a recall on it, I think you'd have a
decent chance getting the repair cost back.

I've had this problem twice. The dealer in here in ABQ made a repair on it
about three months ago...new lines and clamps, and the problem went away.
Last Sunday when it turned cold here, the problem came back...this time the
gas was dripping steadily...the first time I couldn't even see a leak, only
smell it. I took the car in this week and they fixed it again
(hopefully)...no cost this time of course. This time they said they used
fuel line with a thicker sidewall this time. We'll see.

By the way..when I was in they said they've seen one burned-out
Eurovan..pretty graphic story. VW is not accepting any responsibility for
it because they said they told the owner not to drive the van when he
reported the problem. He drove it and it burned up. Their side anyway...

Take care and good luck. Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: <LTVess@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 5:22 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan



In a message dated 10/22/99 4:52:26 AM, rgolen@... writes:

<<Perhaps there is one difference between US and European EVs....I've
been reading a lot about the Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) that we have
here in the states and how it affects rubber components of the fuel
system. Perhaps this is part of the problem. I know that the European
countries do not have this type of gasoline.>>

Good point. My fuel lines began to leak when we went camping last month
and
it dropped to around freezing. (I let VW know via phone and e-mail and
reported the problem to the NHTSA.) I put some of that $18 per can BG fuel
stuff in the van and the problem has not come back. It is expensive, but
is
supposed to fix "dried out" hoses and recondition the entire fuel system
etc.
Works for now. I'll get the problem fixed when a recall is ordered.
Meanwhile I have a fire extinguisher strapped to the driver's seat just in
case.

Todd Vess
Windsor, Colo.

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Extended Warranty??

Eckhard Rolz
 

I bought a 93 EV two years ago in NC. I bought it from a dealer who had
purchased it at an auction. My question is, is there any way to find out if
there was an extended warranty purchased for this vehicle, (and is it
transferable). I called VW but they did not sell an extended warranty on
this van. (Funny thing happened, though. Three days after I called I
received an re-notification for two recalls: Steering Universal Joint and
Power Window Regulator--no fuel line, yet!--Better have it done!) Maybe one
of you owned this vehicle prior to me and can tell me if there is an
extended warranty.
It is a light blue GL, first registered on Feb. 21 1993 in Monsey, NY, where
the title was issued. It was sold on April 17, 1997 and brought to NC.
That's all I know.
Does anyone have any idea how to get information on any extended warranty?
As I have complained before, I need an new auto transmission and I am trying
anything to avoid paying around $4000.
Thanks
Eckhard


Re: Forensic Investigator visits my EuroVan

 

In a message dated 10/24/99 1:34:59 PM, ROBBANWART@... writes:

<<VW is not accepting any responsibility for

it because they said they told the owner not to drive the van when he

reported the problem. He drove it and it burned up. Their side anyway...>>

VW said nothing about not driving the van when I called. If the problem
(i.e. smell or fuel leaking) comes back again, I'll get it fixed for sure.
Anyone had this fixed at the dealership and know how much it costs?

Todd


Re: List to Port!

 

Rick,

A while back in 1996, an owner of an EVC in Washington state was dissatisfied
with her vehicle for, among other things, it leaned to the left. VW was not
very interested in solving the problem and blamed it on Winnie and their
location of all the camper equipment on the driver's side (i.e., potable
water tank, gray water tank, refrigerator, stove, propane tank, and all the
storage bins which would be loaded to various degrees). But VW said they
could readjust some things but it would not be gratis. She finally became
disgusted with the vehicle not only for the leaning problem but for many of
the other items that have been discussed on this list (I think she personally
experienced many of them).

As mentioned by John Waterman, perhaps adjustment of the torsion bars could
solve the problem but I would wonder what the loaded condition of the vehicle
should be at the time adjustments are made (tanks and cabinets fully loaded
or empty?). Perhaps VW USA or a member of this group would have a sensible
recommendation.

Bob Williams

Rick Williams wrote:

> Finally -- after more than a year I've decided to check my Eurovan to
> see if it REALLY is leaning to the left.
>
> Yesterday I checked the garage floor for level and sure enough my
> beloved EVC leans about 3/8 inch to the left!
>
> The model is a 1993 Eurovan CV Camper by Westfalia! (Before we go
> around on this again -- Yes Virginia VW and Westfalia DID make a
> camper in 1993). Is this lean common? Is there an easy solution -
> other than visiting the dealer? Is it worth worrying about?
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Rick
> '93 EVC - Westy


Re: Selling a Vehicle Online Where???

InPhase ReSearch
 

From: "Bruce Curry" <taizo@...>
Suggest:

www2.classifieds2000.com
www.ep.com
www.cars.com
www.highway-one.com
www.megawheels.com (Canada)
www.traderpub.com (San Diego)
Don't forget Auto Trader - Nationwide in print and web
www.traderonline.com


Tomas Jones


Re: List to Port!

John Waterman
 

Rick,
Not sure if it affects one side or another, but when I had my "95 aligned, I
stuck around to watch the process. First thing the mechanic did was to use
a tape measure to adjust the front height of the van by adjusting the
torsion bars. Just can't remember if it was adjusted side by side or if
there was just one adjustment.
John

Rick Williams wrote:

Finally -- after more than a year I've decided to check my Eurovan to
see if it REALLY is leaning to the left.

Yesterday I checked the garage floor for level and sure enough my
beloved EVC leans about 3/8 inch to the left!

The model is a 1993 Eurovan CV Camper by Westfalia! (Before we go
around on this again -- Yes Virginia VW and Westfalia DID make a
camper in 1993). Is this lean common? Is there an easy solution -
other than visiting the dealer? Is it worth worrying about?

Thanks to all,

Rick
'93 EVC - Westy

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Re: List to Port!

 

Adjusting the torsion bars would probably correct the list to port.
This is the first step in a four wheel alignment on the Eurovan and
should be followed by the rest of the alignment.
Marve
'95 EVC
"rick williams" <ve7as-@...> wrote:
original article:

Finally -- after more than a year I've decided to check my Eurovan to
see if it REALLY is leaning to the left.

Yesterday I checked the garage floor for level and sure enough my
beloved EVC leans about 3/8 inch to the left!

The model is a 1993 Eurovan CV Camper by Westfalia! (Before we go
around on this again -- Yes Virginia VW and Westfalia DID make a
camper in 1993). Is this lean common? Is there an easy solution -
other than visiting the dealer? Is it worth worrying about?

Thanks to all,

Rick
'93 EVC - Westy


Selling a Vehicle Online Where???

Bruce Curry
 

Suggest:

www2.classifieds2000.com
www.ep.com
www.cars.com
www.highway-one.com
www.megawheels.com (Canada)
www.traderpub.com (San Diego)

Try 'car classifieds' in a search engine and see what happens.

Good Luck.

bruce

I am looking for advice on where to advertise a vehicle online. I have
brand new 1999 Pontiac Firefly (identical to Chevrolet Metro or Suzuki
Swift). This hatchback was won in a raffle. The vehicle has never been
titled and has about 130 miles with factory warranty to 60,000 km and
roadside assistance. I wanted to trade it on a Firefly or Metro vehicle
with more different options. Local GM dealers will give you $7500 against
a vehicle that left their lot for $12,000.00. The car is a 5sp, 1.0 L
engine, green with gray interior. The 63 mpg Firefly will complement the
gas mileage of the Eurovan.


List to Port!

Rick Williams
 

Finally -- after more than a year I've decided to check my Eurovan to
see if it REALLY is leaning to the left.

Yesterday I checked the garage floor for level and sure enough my
beloved EVC leans about 3/8 inch to the left!

The model is a 1993 Eurovan CV Camper by Westfalia! (Before we go
around on this again -- Yes Virginia VW and Westfalia DID make a
camper in 1993). Is this lean common? Is there an easy solution -
other than visiting the dealer? Is it worth worrying about?

Thanks to all,

Rick
'93 EVC - Westy


Re: Carbon monoxide detector

Richard Cochran
 

---M Caicedo <michaelcaicedo@...> wrote:
--- Chris Noeske <CHRISN@...> wrote:
I'm in the process of adding a Gasoline fired furnace to my 92 EV
Westfalia. And would like to know the following about the Winnebago camper.
1) Does Winnebago install a carbon monoxide detector?
Yes
2) Is it wired to the coach battery?
No. 9V battery Powered
3) Where is it mounted?
On the poptop just behind the passengers seat
4) What is the name of the manufacture?
COSTAR- Model 9L-i
5) Where can I buy it ?
Don't know - email address provided is mktsls@... 800-432-5599
I've seen it for sale at Camping World, a nationwide RV supply/service
chain.

6) How much does it cost?
don't know
If I recall correctly, it was in the neighborhood of $50-$60.

7) Does it go off allot?
Only once in the 3 months I've owned - while refilling tank at gas pump.
That sounds like the propane detector, which is a different thing. My
propane detector has also gone off while fueling (I now always close
the driver's door while fueling, to avoid the alarm.) My Carbon
Monoxide detector went off once, when the propane refrigerator was
starved for air, and its exhaust was drifting into the passenger
compartment through the open vent window immediately above the
refrigerator exhaust. Another poster to this list said the same thing
happened to him. I took the alarm seriously and ventilated the van,
but I wasn't feeling any symptoms of Carbon Monxide poisoning. If I
hadn't had the alarm, I might have woken up with a headache or worse.

8) Does it never go off, and you wonder if it works at all?
Not anymore. The manual suggests putting a butane cig lighter next
to it and letting the gas out for a few seconds without lighting it
to test.
That's the test for the propane detector. The CO alarm has a test
button, but it only checks the battery and sound producer. There's no
convenient, safe source of Carbon Monoxide to put the detection device
to a real test, but I know mine works because of the one time it went
off.

Before you start each trip, push that test button on the CO detector!

--Rich


Fuel Lines

Eckhard Rolz
 

You might already know this. 92 Passats were recalled because of the same fuel line problem. Go to the following web page, scroll down and click in "Recall News".

Eckhard