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Thanks... the solenoid is located on the firewall just above the
battery and checks out! From there, there is a 30 amp circut-breaker
inside with the regular fuses... current at the breaker and fuse
checks out. Questions is, where is the wire's next connection for
distribution?

--- In ev_update@..., "txpigeon" <txpigeon@...> wrote:

There's a solenoid that is supposed to pick up when the engine is
running (actually, when the key is on) to recharge the rear

battery.

A lot of auto parts places have them or can get them. Usually about
$20. Make sure you get a continuous duty solenoid. There should

be 3

wires, 2 heavy and 1 small. Also a couple of bolts and/or nuts
holding it to the wall.

Can't help with the location, but I'd guess it's pretty close to the
rear battery. When you find it, you might try rapping on it with a
non-metallic object. May get you by until you get one.

Duane
05HD Rialta


--- In ev_update@..., "jastamford" <johnstamford@>

wrote:

My 95 was working fine with the coach battery being charged by

the

altnator while driving or by shoreline when parked... an THEN! I

go on

a trip and the coach batter goes dead keeping the refridge cold

while

driving. A volt meter told me that I was not getting any juice at

the

battery with the engine running and the alternator showed 14.5

VDC

output at the battery under the hood. Shoreline recharged the

coach

battery no problem. In trying to fix the problem, I have come to

the

conclusion that there is a relay the switches between the

shoreline and

the alternator to charge the coach battery... question is; 1) am

I

correct? 2) where the hell did wennibago hide it? 3) how do I

change

it? and 4) where to buy a replacement? That for anyone's help.

O c'mon guys.
We can certainly go back to another thread of tranny fluid or how
about tires. Or how about some Norcold issues for a change.

I don't think its totally inappropriate to discuss or at least bring
up the fact that our rigs aren't winning a prize in energy efficiency
- even without the added external AC.

can we all lighten up a bit? Where is the humor? Life is hard enough.
Jeez.
Florian
03 MVWK

--- In ev_update@..., Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...> wrote:

Could we get back to EVs and EVCs? If you really need to discuss

life style and the human ability to adapt to the environment or not I
would hope there is an appropriate place for you to do that. IMO this
is not the place.

Cheers,
Larry
LA, CA

--- On Thu, 6/19/08, dave_king_ev <dave_king_ev@...> wrote:
From: dave_king_ev <dave_king_ev@...>
Subject: [ev_update] Re: A/C and Poptop Photos Added to Photos Section
To: ev_update@...
Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 3:38 PM











"Dave probably lives in a cold climate where it rains

and snows all

the time."



Oh c'mon. I'm 60 years old. I've been in the military (spent three

years in Ft. Riley, Kansas, so Texas climate is hardly something I saw

once on Discovery Channel). I've lived on both coasts (Maine, San

Diego) and lived most of my life around the Great Lakes (which have

the largest average annual temp extremes of any climate in North

America). My daughter lives in Atlanta; it's hot there. Whenever I

go to visit all I do is complain (so she tells me).



But, as Dylan said, you don't need a weatherman to know which way the

wind blows.



This facet of the American Dream -- "I will live my life between 70

and 75 degrees, while traveling between 70 and 75 miles per hour,

every moment of every day" -- is categorically unsustainable. Enjoy

it while you can, but you (or your children) are going to have to

evolve. The Chinese and Indians and Malaysians will insist.



--- In ev_update@yahoogrou ps.com, mwise@ wrote:

Dave probably lives in a cold climate where it rains and snows all

the time. He likely spends his weekends hiding out in his bus feeling

pangs of guilt for driving it at all, shivering without heat trying to

make himself feel better about it. Or maybe he lives in Miami and

takes solace in weekends spent dehydrated and heat struck.

None of which really has a lot to do with our beloved Busses,

though. Mine, I just drove 800 miles down to Telluride, running A/C

all the way. If I still lived in the south, you bet I would have an

external A/C unit. I'd keep the fridge extra stocked with beer

shipped from afar too.

(Expressly Stated) smiley face :-)

--Michael Wise

'99 EVC and '08 R32

Ketchum, Idaho

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----

From: "KG KIRKLEY" <kgkirkley@ ..>

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:33:22

To:ev_update@yahoogrou ps.com

Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: A/C and Poptop Photos Added to Photos

Section

In a message dated 06/19/08 16:20:07 Central Daylight Time,

dave_king_ev@ ... writes:

When it's hot, I accept being a little hotter. When it's cold, I

accept being a little colder. I do have a furnace and AC, and I use

them both. I'm no Luddite, but I also live in the real world:

summer

hotter, winter colder. This idea that we MUST manage our environment

to keep temps in a narrow comfort range AT ALL TIMES wastes huge

amounts of energy. Too hot to go camping?.... then don't go camping.

Or sweat.

Same with food. When I was a kid there was a thing called "seasonal"

food. Anyone remember that? For example, you couldn't get

strawberries in the winter. They just weren't on the shelves, and no

one went to the produce department at the A&P and asked "Where are

the

strawberries (or the watermelon, or the cantelope)?" No one asked

because we already knew the answer.

But nowadays I doubt the average child even knows what "seasonal"

means. Nowadays you can walk into Walmart and buy a quart of

strawberries the size of ping pong balls (and about as tasty) every

day of the year (and every hour of the day) for just a couple bucks.

THAT's waste. That's an energy-wasting culture run amuck. We grow

artificially irrigated and fertilized fruits year round and ship them

all over the country so we can have strawberries 24/7?

And then we call that a balanced diet. It's insane.

All that insanity is pissing away our energy. We can't drive our

vans

and piss away our energy at the same time. Not for long.

I don't want strawberries in the winter. I don't want 5000BTUs of AC

on top of a van parked in 100+F Texas. I want to be hot in the

summer, cold in the winter, and looking forward to strawberries when

they are in season.

Balance. No smiley face expressed or implied.

So...this begs the question.... .where do you live?

I don't disagree with you in theory.

I grew up without air conditioning in houses, schools,

churches,businesses , public buildings or cars.

But it has been proven that humans are happy and more productive

when they are comfortable.

Sure humans can 'survive' extremes of heat and cold and even

tolerate it, but we really have rather narrow comfort zone.

Someone once said....if you can't say anything nice, don't say

anything at all.

Kent Kirkley

'97EVC

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Could we get back to EVs and EVCs? If you really need to discuss life style and the human ability to adapt to the environment or not I would hope there is an appropriate place for you to do that. IMO this is not the place.

Cheers,
Larry
LA, CA

Been there and done that. The solenoid on the EVC is located on the
firewall in the engine compartment above the vehicle battery. Rapping
on it is a good suggestion and it may just cure the problem...at
least temporarily. Ideally, if you change the solenoid, you should
disconnect the negative cable from the both the vehicle and coach
batteries should the wrench that you use to loosen the terminals nuts
come in contact with an electrical ground point. Alternatively, you
could wrap most of the wrench in black electrical tape to preclude
contacting ground. Also, once you have removed the wires, do not let
them contact ground either.

Richard Cox
2002 HD Rialta
Former '95 & '97 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., "txpigeon" <txpigeon@...> wrote:

There's a solenoid that is supposed to pick up when the engine is
running (actually, when the key is on) to recharge the rear

battery.

A lot of auto parts places have them or can get them. Usually about
$20. Make sure you get a continuous duty solenoid. There should

be 3

wires, 2 heavy and 1 small. Also a couple of bolts and/or nuts
holding it to the wall.

Can't help with the location, but I'd guess it's pretty close to the
rear battery. When you find it, you might try rapping on it with a
non-metallic object. May get you by until you get one.

Duane
05HD Rialta


--- In ev_update@..., "jastamford" <johnstamford@>

wrote:

My 95 was working fine with the coach battery being charged by

the

altnator while driving or by shoreline when parked... an THEN! I

go on

a trip and the coach batter goes dead keeping the refridge cold

while

driving. A volt meter told me that I was not getting any juice at

the

battery with the engine running and the alternator showed 14.5

VDC

output at the battery under the hood. Shoreline recharged the

coach

battery no problem. In trying to fix the problem, I have come to

the

conclusion that there is a relay the switches between the

shoreline and

the alternator to charge the coach battery... question is; 1) am

I

correct? 2) where the hell did wennibago hide it? 3) how do I

change

it? and 4) where to buy a replacement? That for anyone's help.

There's a solenoid that is supposed to pick up when the engine is
running (actually, when the key is on) to recharge the rear battery.
A lot of auto parts places have them or can get them. Usually about
$20. Make sure you get a continuous duty solenoid. There should be 3
wires, 2 heavy and 1 small. Also a couple of bolts and/or nuts
holding it to the wall.

Can't help with the location, but I'd guess it's pretty close to the
rear battery. When you find it, you might try rapping on it with a
non-metallic object. May get you by until you get one.

Duane
05HD Rialta

"Dave probably lives in a cold climate where it rains and snows all
the time."


Oh c'mon. I'm 60 years old. I've been in the military (spent three
years in Ft. Riley, Kansas, so Texas climate is hardly something I saw
once on Discovery Channel). I've lived on both coasts (Maine, San
Diego) and lived most of my life around the Great Lakes (which have
the largest average annual temp extremes of any climate in North
America). My daughter lives in Atlanta; it's hot there. Whenever I
go to visit all I do is complain (so she tells me).

But, as Dylan said, you don't need a weatherman to know which way the
wind blows.

This facet of the American Dream -- "I will live my life between 70
and 75 degrees, while traveling between 70 and 75 miles per hour,
every moment of every day" -- is categorically unsustainable. Enjoy
it while you can, but you (or your children) are going to have to
evolve. The Chinese and Indians and Malaysians will insist.




--- In ev_update@..., mwise@... wrote:

Dave probably lives in a cold climate where it rains and snows all

the time. He likely spends his weekends hiding out in his bus feeling
pangs of guilt for driving it at all, shivering without heat trying to
make himself feel better about it. Or maybe he lives in Miami and
takes solace in weekends spent dehydrated and heat struck.

None of which really has a lot to do with our beloved Busses,

though. Mine, I just drove 800 miles down to Telluride, running A/C
all the way. If I still lived in the south, you bet I would have an
external A/C unit. I'd keep the fridge extra stocked with beer
shipped from afar too.

(Expressly Stated) smiley face :-)

--Michael Wise
'99 EVC and '08 R32
Ketchum, Idaho

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "KG KIRKLEY" <kgkirkley@...>

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:33:22
To:ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: A/C and Poptop Photos Added to Photos

Section

In a message dated 06/19/08 16:20:07 Central Daylight Time,

dave_king_ev@... writes:

When it's hot, I accept being a little hotter. When it's cold, I
accept being a little colder. I do have a furnace and AC, and I use
them both. I'm no Luddite, but I also live in the real world: summer
hotter, winter colder. This idea that we MUST manage our environment
to keep temps in a narrow comfort range AT ALL TIMES wastes huge
amounts of energy. Too hot to go camping?....then don't go camping.
Or sweat.

Same with food. When I was a kid there was a thing called "seasonal"
food. Anyone remember that? For example, you couldn't get
strawberries in the winter. They just weren't on the shelves, and no
one went to the produce department at the A&P and asked "Where are the
strawberries (or the watermelon, or the cantelope)?" No one asked
because we already knew the answer.

But nowadays I doubt the average child even knows what "seasonal"
means. Nowadays you can walk into Walmart and buy a quart of
strawberries the size of ping pong balls (and about as tasty) every
day of the year (and every hour of the day) for just a couple bucks.
THAT's waste. That's an energy-wasting culture run amuck. We grow
artificially irrigated and fertilized fruits year round and ship them
all over the country so we can have strawberries 24/7?

And then we call that a balanced diet. It's insane.

All that insanity is pissing away our energy. We can't drive our vans
and piss away our energy at the same time. Not for long.

I don't want strawberries in the winter. I don't want 5000BTUs of AC
on top of a van parked in 100+F Texas. I want to be hot in the
summer, cold in the winter, and looking forward to strawberries when
they are in season.

Balance. No smiley face expressed or implied.


So...this begs the question.....where do you live?

I don't disagree with you in theory.
I grew up without air conditioning in houses, schools,

churches,businesses, public buildings or cars.

But it has been proven that humans are happy and more productive

when they are comfortable.

Sure humans can 'survive' extremes of heat and cold and even

tolerate it, but we really have rather narrow comfort zone.

Someone once said....if you can't say anything nice, don't say

anything at all.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


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Regarding the shifting -- I can't tell if it's shift points or

slipping between shifts. The engine seems to race a little between gears.

Sounds like slipping then. Doing the reset won't hurt but slipping would to me be consistent with your notation of it being slower when cold (more slipping, clutches not coming together quickly enough, etc.). In that case I'd change the fluid and filter and also adjust the pressure screw and see what happens from there.

Dave probably lives in a cold climate where it rains and snows all the time. He likely spends his weekends hiding out in his bus feeling pangs of guilt for driving it at all, shivering without heat trying to make himself feel better about it. Or maybe he lives in Miami and takes solace in weekends spent dehydrated and heat struck.

None of which really has a lot to do with our beloved Busses, though. Mine, I just drove 800 miles down to Telluride, running A/C all the way. If I still lived in the south, you bet I would have an external A/C unit. I'd keep the fridge extra stocked with beer shipped from afar too.

(Expressly Stated) smiley face :-)

--Michael Wise
'99 EVC and '08 R32
Ketchum, Idaho

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

My 95 was working fine with the coach battery being charged by the
altnator while driving or by shoreline when parked... an THEN! I go on
a trip and the coach batter goes dead keeping the refridge cold while
driving. A volt meter told me that I was not getting any juice at the
battery with the engine running and the alternator showed 14.5 VDC
output at the battery under the hood. Shoreline recharged the coach
battery no problem. In trying to fix the problem, I have come to the
conclusion that there is a relay the switches between the shoreline and
the alternator to charge the coach battery... question is; 1) am I
correct? 2) where the hell did wennibago hide it? 3) how do I change
it? and 4) where to buy a replacement? That for anyone's help.

In a message dated 06/19/08 16:20:07 Central Daylight Time, dave_king_ev@... writes:


When it's hot, I accept being a little hotter. When it's cold, I
accept being a little colder. I do have a furnace and AC, and I use
them both. I'm no Luddite, but I also live in the real world: summer
hotter, winter colder. This idea that we MUST manage our environment
to keep temps in a narrow comfort range AT ALL TIMES wastes huge
amounts of energy. Too hot to go camping?....then don't go camping.
Or sweat.

Same with food. When I was a kid there was a thing called "seasonal"
food. Anyone remember that? For example, you couldn't get
strawberries in the winter. They just weren't on the shelves, and no
one went to the produce department at the A&P and asked "Where are the
strawberries (or the watermelon, or the cantelope)?" No one asked
because we already knew the answer.

But nowadays I doubt the average child even knows what "seasonal"
means. Nowadays you can walk into Walmart and buy a quart of
strawberries the size of ping pong balls (and about as tasty) every
day of the year (and every hour of the day) for just a couple bucks.
THAT's waste. That's an energy-wasting culture run amuck. We grow
artificially irrigated and fertilized fruits year round and ship them
all over the country so we can have strawberries 24/7?

And then we call that a balanced diet. It's insane.

All that insanity is pissing away our energy. We can't drive our vans
and piss away our energy at the same time. Not for long.

I don't want strawberries in the winter. I don't want 5000BTUs of AC
on top of a van parked in 100+F Texas. I want to be hot in the
summer, cold in the winter, and looking forward to strawberries when
they are in season.

Balance. No smiley face expressed or implied.


So...this begs the question.....where do you live?

I don't disagree with you in theory.
I grew up without air conditioning in houses, schools, churches,businesses, public buildings or cars.
But it has been proven that humans are happy and more productive when they are comfortable.
Sure humans can 'survive' extremes of heat and cold and even tolerate it, but we really have rather narrow comfort zone.

Someone once said....if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC

Geez Billy,



I hope you won’t do this to a rare van worth $20k or more!



I used my ’84 Vanagon Westy for ladder/plywood/lumber hauling for years with
a Yakima rack. I could easily haul 4 10’ sheets of 5/8” T-111 plywood
lashed to the rack.





The problem with doing this on the EVC is that the top is ABS, and will
crack if overloaded. The fiberglass Vanagon Westy top was much stronger,
and the Yakima system has to be installed with tracks on the TOP, not sides,
of the roof for maximum strength. Kent Kirkley has done this and can tell
you how. He told me how, but I haven’t done it yet. Don’t add mock “rain
gutters” to the side.



If you can’t afford the Yakima system, just do what canoe and kayak haulers
do. Put some thick, stiff foam pads (thick enough to clear the vent) on the
roof, and tie the ladders down with long straps. Put ?” rope loops around
the hinges of the hood and rear hatch (they can be left hanging inside when
not used), and run your nylon straps through them. You won’t be drilling
through the side of the van for this. Plywood won’t work this way though.



Here is a link that will give you an idea of what I’m talking about, but it
bolts the loop in:



Good luck!



Stuart

’97 EVC







_____

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Of FreedaPeeple^^
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:44 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??



Kent, thanks. But I need to carry a ladder or two for my home improvements
biz. I'm wondering if I could get away with installing strong stainless
steel "handles" (marine type) along the sides, reinforced with stainless
steel plates on the bolted side, on the interior. And then just strapping
the ladders directly on the roof with rachett straps? Do you think that
would work?

Billy






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and filter changed. Although if the above reset fixes it *and* your

fluid is nowhere due for it's "every 40K change", it might be a waste
of effort at this point.

The dealer said the fluid was "burnt". So, I assume that if the
transmission is not bad, the fluid should be flushed and filter
changed. Although the dealer says the system is not supposed to have
ATF changed. Having rejoined this august body, I know that it is not true.

Regarding the shifting -- I can't tell if it's shift points or
slipping between shifts. The engine seems to race a little between gears.

Thank you for your help.

-Erich

I invite you to come on down to Texas and I'll take you out in my

EVC when the days are 100+F and night 90+F with 90% humidity and I'll
take pictures of you sweating.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC

When it's hot, I accept being a little hotter. When it's cold, I
accept being a little colder. I do have a furnace and AC, and I use
them both. I'm no Luddite, but I also live in the real world: summer
hotter, winter colder. This idea that we MUST manage our environment
to keep temps in a narrow comfort range AT ALL TIMES wastes huge
amounts of energy. Too hot to go camping?....then don't go camping.
Or sweat.

Same with food. When I was a kid there was a thing called "seasonal"
food. Anyone remember that? For example, you couldn't get
strawberries in the winter. They just weren't on the shelves, and no
one went to the produce department at the A&P and asked "Where are the
strawberries (or the watermelon, or the cantelope)?" No one asked
because we already knew the answer.

But nowadays I doubt the average child even knows what "seasonal"
means. Nowadays you can walk into Walmart and buy a quart of
strawberries the size of ping pong balls (and about as tasty) every
day of the year (and every hour of the day) for just a couple bucks.
THAT's waste. That's an energy-wasting culture run amuck. We grow
artificially irrigated and fertilized fruits year round and ship them
all over the country so we can have strawberries 24/7?

And then we call that a balanced diet. It's insane.

All that insanity is pissing away our energy. We can't drive our vans
and piss away our energy at the same time. Not for long.

I don't want strawberries in the winter. I don't want 5000BTUs of AC
on top of a van parked in 100+F Texas. I want to be hot in the
summer, cold in the winter, and looking forward to strawberries when
they are in season.

Balance. No smiley face expressed or implied.

But even without the ROFL, I thought the intended humor was blatantly
obvious.

Somehow humans managed to survive without air conditioning until the
1950s. But now we need to strap A/C units to the roof of our
recreational vans? No offense, but that is hilarious, if not tragic.



Serge
I ain't biting on this one. SOIAT (sit on it and twirl)

There have been a/c units on recreational vehicles for a long time.....
I invite you to come on down to Texas and I'll take you out in my EVC when the days are 100+F and night 90+F with 90% humidity and I'll take pictures of you sweating.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC

Somehow humans managed to survive without air conditioning until the

1950s. But now we need to strap A/C units to the roof of our recreational
vans? No offense, but that is hilarious, if not tragic. <<



This list is actually pretty kind. Someone wanted to do the generator/AC
deal with their Vanagon Westy and posted such request on the Vanagon list.
He proceeded to get barraged with responses like "Don't camp near me with
that ignorantly loud generator and A/C, go park next to the 60 foot
behemoths".



Bwahahahaha.





Bryan

--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/19/08 11:29:06 AM, dave_king_ev@... writes:

Lighten up already. Kludging a 5000BTU 110VAC air conditioner on top
of a camper van and then asking "what's a carbon footprint?" isn't
just kind of funny, it's hysterically funny.

("Solar panels leave a carbon footprint".....uh, no.)

There wasn't a smiley face at the end of your original comment.
Sure solar panels have a carbon footprint.
Somebody has to make them and making them using materials and energy.
Where does that come from:)))

While there was no smiley face at the end of his original comment,
there was an ROFL, a common variant of ROTFL, meaning, "rolling on the
floor LAUGHING".

But even without the ROFL, I thought the intended humor was blatantly
obvious.

Somehow humans managed to survive without air conditioning until the
1950s. But now we need to strap A/C units to the roof of our
recreational vans? No offense, but that is hilarious, if not tragic.

Serge

Ok tech experts here is the tough $$$ question. I know that some of you on the list have the experience of having a timing belt fail and getting into engine problems. I am looking for information on what happened to you and how things worked out. This question is not knocking the VW products, because the engine was in a GM Korea produced Chevy Aveo (4 cylinder 1.6 L gas engine,) Basic scenario at about 40,000 miles on the odometer.Friday night last he was driving at 60 mph on I-5 north of Seattle Washington when he lost power in 5th gear, tried shifting down to 4 but basically the engine died and he coasted to the side of the highway. I know all this because I was following him in a rental car about 6 car lengths back. The engine would not start, so we had the vehicle towed to Everett Chevrolet. Saturday morning the dealer said it must be a timing belt, I have no mechanic until Monday. It should be an easy job. We continued back to Canada 900 miles further away. Monday morning I was told yes it is a timing belt but we have no idea why it failed, there should be no internal damage. $300. Monday afternoon we were told the timing belt failed because the tensioner was broken. (one is now ordered). Tuesday afternoon we were told the head is damaged. (16 valve engine). The estimate is another $2000.00.... This car had no warranty it expired at 3 years, 36,000 miles.


Here are my concerns what are the chances the rest of the engine is TOAST? Even if we change the head and the pistons have no marks on them what are chance the bits of valves are not going to destroy the engine once it is put back together? I can do an oil change but are their bits of debris that won't come out?

I know some of you have done the damaged timing belt, damaged valves and head scenarios in VWs, what did you decide to do? What would you do?

I can buy a complete factory reman for $4000 or get engines out of wreckers for 800 to 1400, with installation at about $500. The issues with this car, is it my son's transportation, we live near Edmonton, Canada, and he goes to college south of Seattle. We aren't really interested in warranty, we are interested in reliability. Do we get the car fixed in Washington, or bring it back to Canada and get the work done here?

Even U-haul is a hassle, they won't rent a tow dolly, they say I need an auto trailer (ground clearance issues). They won't rent me a pick up truck to tow a car with and they won't rent me a cube van because I am a foreigner (so when did being a white Canadian male be such a big deal?) I mean the last time we invaded the US was about 200 years ago... and that was under a different king... :>)

Do we just swap the whole engine now and sleep better? My wife is the worrier. I am the bill payer.

Seattle area listers can you recommend the name of good local independent shop, or wrecking yards that might have GM products, and honest reliable towing companies...

Please reply direct to tya2@...

Reg near Edmonton

Good advice. It is likely that whoever changed the fluid 6k miles ago may
have failed to have the engine running when topping off the fluid, thus
leaving you a bit short.

Bob W


In a message dated 6/19/2008 1:58:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gti_matt@... writes:

My 2002 EVWK has 58K miles. It's hard to shift into reverse, esp when cold,

and there is an occasional lag.

The lag between P and R, P and R, R and D, etc. is a bit typical of these
transmissions IMHO.

However if you're noticing a significant difference between when cold and
when warm, you probably have any combination of low fluid and/or dirty fluid. I
would have the fluid level checked (you might have a leak). I see you said
that at 52K you had the fluid changed. Did they also change out the filter
too? I'm thinking that since it was changed at 52K (and not necessarily at 40K?)
that you had VERY dirty fluid and probably could be due for another change,
since these changes don't get all of it out. Make sure the filter is changed
as well. While in there, do the pressure adjustment screw mod too
(search/google)H

My questions-are there any signs of a transmisssion about to fail?

I wouldn't think so here. These are more typical of dirty or low fluid.

What is "limp mode"?

Usually does that to protect itself and refuses to go into some of the
higher gears. Doesn't sound like that's what you are experiencing.






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My EV seems to have a bad transmission. The dealer says it needs a new

one, and this he has decided upon only seeing and smelling the
transmission fluid. The van does not shift properly through the lower
gears, but runs fine at highway speed. Downshifting to go uphill is
sometimes troublesome.

If you're getting all the gears OK and it's just a matter of the shift points, I don't think you have a trans problem at all.

The rebuilder suggested that perhaps the "adaptation program" wasn't run

after the computer lost its memory. Is that possible?

Maybe. I find that it also can just get "confused" trying to satisfy the driver based on past driving-style learning that conflicts with current/immediate-future driving conditions.

Could that destroy a transmission?

Doubtful.

Or could it mean that I just need to have the "adaptation program" performed

It's very easy to do yourself. Do it.

Thanks most recently to dave_king_ev posting these up in another forum, these are the steps:
1. Turn on the ignition (don't start the engine).
2. Turn the ignition off.
3. Turn ignition on again -- without starting the engine -- and depress the accelerator all and hold the pedal there for at least ten seconds.
4. Release the accelerator pedal.
5. Start the engine in the regular manner.
6. Drive, making sure that the transmission shifts through all gears.

and the ATF flushed?

and filter changed. Although if the above reset fixes it *and* your fluid is nowhere due for it's "every 40K change", it might be a waste of effort at this point.

My 2002 EVWK has 58K miles. It's hard to shift into reverse, esp when cold, and there is an occasional lag.

The lag between P and R, P and R, R and D, etc. is a bit typical of these transmissions IMHO.

However if you're noticing a significant difference between when cold and when warm, you probably have any combination of low fluid and/or dirty fluid. I would have the fluid level checked (you might have a leak). I see you said that at 52K you had the fluid changed. Did they also change out the filter too? I'm thinking that since it was changed at 52K (and not necessarily at 40K?) that you had VERY dirty fluid and probably could be due for another change, since these changes don't get all of it out. Make sure the filter is changed as well. While in there, do the pressure adjustment screw mod too (search/google).

My questions-are there any signs of a transmisssion about to fail?

I wouldn't think so here. These are more typical of dirty or low fluid.

What is "limp mode"?

Usually does that to protect itself and refuses to go into some of the higher gears. Doesn't sound like that's what you are experiencing.