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Re: Furnace Tips?

 

On my 95, there was several l.e.d. indicator lights on the circuit
board and a sticker to explain their function. That might be of help.
If you can't find the sticker:

green=start cycle
red=valve open
slow green=bad electrode
fast greeen= timed out

I ended up cutting a hole in the forward side of the shroud and
copying the sticker and pasting it where I could read it with the
furnace intstalled. Now with a mirror I can troubleshoot it while it
is installed (after removing the gray plastic interior panel).

The Eurovan service training manual from Winnebago (I bought mine
from Go Westy), has 18 pages on the furnace.....troubleshooting,
wiring diagram, etc. You might want to pick one up. It covers
everything Winnebago added to the van, in detail for servicing.

Pete
95 EVC


Remote mirrors

David E. Fahnestock
 

Both my mirrors stopped working today. If I press up or down, I hear a "clunk" from both
mirrors but no movement. If I select right or left, no sound or movement. Wish I had a
schematic.

David


Furnace Tips?

adammentzell
 

I have 1997 EVC with a furnace that will not light. I have pulled it out and found that it is
getting propane, not clogged and the fan is running like a top. I follow the startup
procedures and get no heat. Gowesty advised trying to put my hand over the intake on the
outside while starting it. No luck.

Any tips? I heard that some people have found the thermostat to be the problem???

Thanks,

Adam


Re: Dash temperature gauge

dave_king_ev
 

There is something wrong with this "good info" because it describes
all 3 sensors as 4-pin sensors, which would mean 12 pins total, and
that would mean 6 devices.

But, as far as I can tell (I have a '99 12 valve, and a paper Bentley,
but there has been a discussion on vortex -- complete with wiring
diagrams posted for the 24 valve motor -- and what I've seen is
consistent with mine) there are just 5 devices:

ECU
gage
fan
afterrun pump
AC cutout

Various models -- the 5 cylinder, the 12 valve, the 24 valve -- have
various locations and combinations for all the sensors involved (for
example on some models the ECU and gage sensors are combined in a
4-pin device while on other models the ECU sensor is a 2-pin
device) but all models use only those 5 devices, which would mean only
10 total pins.

But, Dave's information shows 3 devices with 4 pins each which is 12
pins which means 6 devices.

Something is not adding up. Does the 24 valve motor have a 6th
device? If so, what is it?



--- In ev_update@..., Sea2river@... wrote:

Good info.

And when replacing the sensor, if you replace the cap on the coolant
reservoir (after relieving any residual pressure), the amount of
coolant loss will
be less that a cup.

Bob W.


In a message dated 5/25/2008 12:33:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
davebo1896@... writes:

And the new green d-shaped (oval) sensor did the trick.

The dash gauge is now working.

Another note, I think the AC was not working while this sensor was
malfunctioning. It seems to be working now. I'm not sure if this is
related.

So to sum up ...

There are two sensors under the engine in the thermostat housing.
You'll have to drop the belly pan to get to these, they are on the
driver's side.

The 4-pin d-shaped (oval) is for the dash gauge and the fuel
injection. The new sensor is green, the original one was black. the
black ones are a known problem.

The 4-pin square sensor next to the d-shaped sensor is for the fans.

There is a 4-pin blue sensor in a hose near the top of the block that
is for the after-run pumps.

Each sensor is held in with a c-clip. Each sensor has a rubber o-ring.

It is possible to swap out the sensors without draining the coolant
system, but you need to be quick with the lower ones (make sure the
coolant is cold, safety goggles and a closed mouth are advised)

The o-ring does not always come out when you pull the sensor. Make
sure it is accounted for before replacing the c-clip. Also be sure
the sensor is under the c-clip not over it, or it will pop out and
drain all your coolant.

Sensors and o-rings are available from Steve at
_ ()

Thanks All !!

Dave




****Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking
with
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Dash temperature gauge

 

Good info.

And when replacing the sensor, if you replace the cap on the coolant
reservoir (after relieving any residual pressure), the amount of coolant loss will
be less that a cup.

Bob W.

In a message dated 5/25/2008 12:33:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
davebo1896@... writes:

And the new green d-shaped (oval) sensor did the trick.

The dash gauge is now working.

Another note, I think the AC was not working while this sensor was
malfunctioning. It seems to be working now. I'm not sure if this is
related.

So to sum up ...

There are two sensors under the engine in the thermostat housing.
You'll have to drop the belly pan to get to these, they are on the
driver's side.

The 4-pin d-shaped (oval) is for the dash gauge and the fuel
injection. The new sensor is green, the original one was black. the
black ones are a known problem.

The 4-pin square sensor next to the d-shaped sensor is for the fans.

There is a 4-pin blue sensor in a hose near the top of the block that
is for the after-run pumps.

Each sensor is held in with a c-clip. Each sensor has a rubber o-ring.

It is possible to swap out the sensors without draining the coolant
system, but you need to be quick with the lower ones (make sure the
coolant is cold, safety goggles and a closed mouth are advised)

The o-ring does not always come out when you pull the sensor. Make
sure it is accounted for before replacing the c-clip. Also be sure
the sensor is under the c-clip not over it, or it will pop out and
drain all your coolant.

Sensors and o-rings are available from Steve at
_ ()

Thanks All !!

Dave




****Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.
()


Re: 2000 camper winnebago has anyone removed the closet and rear area

Jim White
 

I know that's been done quite a few times because there are a number of fairly late model (2001?) EVCs running around in just that condition. Some Seattle-based coffee company turned EVCs into mobile cafes by ripping out the rear closet & storage compartments (keeping the appliances and water systems as you say) and installing an espresso machine in their place.

I saw one being sold after they were done with it and the coffee machine was removed, but don't recall any details apart from I knew I didn't want to deal with the project involved in reconstruction!

Also while I was getting my furnace repaired I got to see what Wolfie (97 EVC) looks like with the plastic panel removed because you have to do that in order to access it. It was a bit of a jolt to see that since I sleep head-to-the-rear the cast iron burner box is just inches away. I suppose it could be considered a good thing because that way if something catches fire I'll notice right away... ;-)

Jim & Wolfie resting at home after three weeks on the road.

jaychee wrote:

I have owed 4 volks campers. in the previous I removed the closet area leaving only the stove, sink, refrigerator component to enable a wider bed. in this model I am afraid to do so because of what I might disturb and because I will have to cut metal and wood to do so. has anyone already tried this? I want to keep the external shower hose of course.


Re: Dash temperature gauge

dave_king_ev
 

Something is wrong with Dave's summary. A 4-wire sensor for the
after-run pump? Wny? All it needs is an on/off switch, which would
mean two-wire, not four.

Dave, are you looking at wiring diagrams or are you relying on catalog
descriptions of the devices?




--- In ev_update@..., "davebo1896" <davebo1896@...> wrote:


And the new green d-shaped (oval) sensor did the trick.

The dash gauge is now working.

Another note, I think the AC was not working while this sensor was
malfunctioning. It seems to be working now. I'm not sure if this is
related.

So to sum up ...

There are two sensors under the engine in the thermostat housing.
You'll have to drop the belly pan to get to these, they are on the
driver's side.

The 4-pin d-shaped (oval) is for the dash gauge and the fuel
injection. The new sensor is green, the original one was black. the
black ones are a known problem.

The 4-pin square sensor next to the d-shaped sensor is for the fans.

There is a 4-pin blue sensor in a hose near the top of the block that
is for the after-run pumps.

Each sensor is held in with a c-clip. Each sensor has a rubber o-ring.

It is possible to swap out the sensors without draining the coolant
system, but you need to be quick with the lower ones (make sure the
coolant is cold, safety goggles and a closed mouth are advised)

The o-ring does not always come out when you pull the sensor. Make
sure it is accounted for before replacing the c-clip. Also be sure
the sensor is under the c-clip not over it, or it will pop out and
drain all your coolant.

Sensors and o-rings are available from Steve at


Thanks All !!

Dave

--- In ev_update@..., Steve Schock <europarts@> wrote:

Dave is correct with regard to the green oval plug sensor. The
function
was mislabeled on the webstore.
I have since corrected the dual function switch to read.....For fuel
injection and temperature gauge.
The square plug sensor is the sensor that controls the two cooling
fans.

Steve Schock
EUROPARTS-San Diego

The Eurovan, Rialta & Sprinter parts source
Website: europarts-sd.com
Phone: 858-451-0020

Secure online ordering at:





dave_king_ev wrote:

--- In ev_update@...
<mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Carl Henderson" <chendermi@> wrote:

On your 2002, the D-shaped 4-pin sensor is used to signal the ECU
(engine control) and the temperature gauge on the dash.
There was a discussion about this on vortex recently.

Note that the europarts catalog says the new green sensor is for
"fuel
injection and cooling fans" but that's wrong.

Carl is right: the new sensor is for the fuel injection and the
GAUGE, not the fans as europarts states.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Dash temperature gauge

davebo1896
 

And the new green d-shaped (oval) sensor did the trick.

The dash gauge is now working.

Another note, I think the AC was not working while this sensor was
malfunctioning. It seems to be working now. I'm not sure if this is
related.

So to sum up ...

There are two sensors under the engine in the thermostat housing.
You'll have to drop the belly pan to get to these, they are on the
driver's side.

The 4-pin d-shaped (oval) is for the dash gauge and the fuel
injection. The new sensor is green, the original one was black. the
black ones are a known problem.

The 4-pin square sensor next to the d-shaped sensor is for the fans.

There is a 4-pin blue sensor in a hose near the top of the block that
is for the after-run pumps.

Each sensor is held in with a c-clip. Each sensor has a rubber o-ring.

It is possible to swap out the sensors without draining the coolant
system, but you need to be quick with the lower ones (make sure the
coolant is cold, safety goggles and a closed mouth are advised)

The o-ring does not always come out when you pull the sensor. Make
sure it is accounted for before replacing the c-clip. Also be sure
the sensor is under the c-clip not over it, or it will pop out and
drain all your coolant.

Sensors and o-rings are available from Steve at


Thanks All !!

Dave

--- In ev_update@..., Steve Schock <europarts@...> wrote:

Dave is correct with regard to the green oval plug sensor. The
function
was mislabeled on the webstore.
I have since corrected the dual function switch to read.....For fuel
injection and temperature gauge.
The square plug sensor is the sensor that controls the two cooling fans.

Steve Schock
EUROPARTS-San Diego

The Eurovan, Rialta & Sprinter parts source
Website: europarts-sd.com
Phone: 858-451-0020

Secure online ordering at:





dave_king_ev wrote:

--- In ev_update@...
<mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Carl Henderson" <chendermi@> wrote:

On your 2002, the D-shaped 4-pin sensor is used to signal the ECU
(engine control) and the temperature gauge on the dash.
There was a discussion about this on vortex recently.

Note that the europarts catalog says the new green sensor is for "fuel
injection and cooling fans" but that's wrong.

Carl is right: the new sensor is for the fuel injection and the
GAUGE, not the fans as europarts states.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Fuel gauge

 

If Mike was still here he would tell you that you are wrong, and to
expect further problems in the future. I on the other hand, with
real world experience, would say that it is true that the solder
joints on the board can crack and separate, and that you need to go
over all the pins if possible, at least heat them to see if the
solder "drops through" to the other side. If so, add a little solder
to firm them up. Of course, it can't hurt to tin the ends of the VR
like Mike has espoused.
gomi_

--- In ev_update@..., "Pete Peterson" <tds3pete@...>
wrote:

I had the usual suspects of guage issues and dash light issues on
my
cluster last summer. I could reach behind the board and move the
multi-
pin connector and things would start working. I replaced the VR and
soldered it directly to the board......still the same issues. I
then
tested the old VR and found it to be fine.

So I went over the solder joints with a fine tooth comb using a
magifier and found several cracks. Some of the cracks were in the
connections to the multi-pin connector. It took a couple of passes
and
testing until I got things right, but things have now worked great
for
a year.

I'm not saying VR issues don't exist, but it clearly was not the
problem on my 95.

Pete


Re: Cracked Exhaust Manifold-no part availability!

gti_matt
 

--- foosnews <foosnews@...> wrote:
Thanks Ken. I'll check with the mechanic on the particular manifold in question. By the
way, I've never been in the position where I've had to bring my own part to a mechanic
and have them install it. Do they get perturbed that they can't secure the part themselves
and add their markup? What's protocol here?
it's been my experience that fluid they usually will let you bring in since people often have
preferences w/fluids.

parts generally no, however...

1. I have had mechanics, even a VW dealer, let me do that if it was something I was truly stuck
with...like doing a brake job but couldn't get the rotors off...if they see that I tried and I was
in a bind they were nice enough to finish off the job for me w/o giving me grief about the parts.

2. If they do let you bring your own parts, they probably will not honor a warranty regarding the
part (that is, usually if it's their parts, you get 12 months/12K miles usually on the part but if
you bring your own, no warranty).


Re: any tips for replacing '93 starter?

 

That may have been it. I deburred the rim of the bushing with a large screwdriver and now it's in and the van is running.

Thanks for the help!

Steve

636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk

On May 24, 2008, at 7:41 PM, dave_king_ev wrote:

--- In ev_update@..., "Steve@..." <steve@...> wrote:

I spent about 3 hours removing and attempting to reinstall a rebuilt
start on my '93 automatic.

Removal wasn't difficult, but I'm having trouble getting the rebuilt in
place. I replaced the bushing, but can't seem to line up the
replacement starter.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Steve

636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk

I've replaced that bushing -- it's a sintered metal designed to hold
lubricant and it's brittle -- and it can be difficult to R&R. Are you
sure the new bushing is in all right? Any little chip will prevent
the starter shaft from seating fully.


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Re: Power Converter tripping

jack_son_73
 

Elden -

Glad you corrected the problem. I used Red & Black
electrical tape to recode my front & rear exposed
DC cables. When I was into my converter & rear
breaker panel, I did the same. Of course, this was
done after the first time I hooked up an external
charger wrong to the rear bat - even knowing of
the wiring code conflict. I also tagged the wires
[+] & [-], in case Winnie ever sees my tape.

My Ham Radio equipment hooked to front & rear bats
are all 'normal' Black = Ground. Crossed polarity
on electronic gear isn't fun. I don't want to get
in the habit of connecting Red to Black.

Jack_son '03 EVC '01 Passat
=================================================

--In ev_update@..., "eapling" <EApling@...> wrote:

--- In ev_update@..., "jack_son_73" <jackr1@> wrote:

Elden-

Are you aware of the Winnie house wiring code
used on ALL of their added 12V DC EVC circuits?
Black = HOT = Plus. Green = Negative or Ground.
This as been mentioned here, but keeps getting
people in trouble.

I assume you are using the converter/charger.
There's a small 30A circuit breaker buried inside
it. It is identical to the one Winnie mounted
between front bat & the solenoid/relay on the
firewall of my '03 EVC.

The automatic reset breaker could be overloading,
or could be defective. It is difficult to get
access to, requiring removal of the plastic panel
below the closet.

I suggest checking wiring adjacent to the new rear
bat first. Do you have a test meter?

How do the galley lights work on just the battery
without AC or alternator charging?

Regards,

Jack_son
=================================================
--In ev_update@..., "eapling" <EApling@> wrote:

I replaced my dead coach battery but when I connect the
battery,the
power converter clicks every 10 seconds and the lights flick
but
stay
on.. ????? thanks,Elden
Ya'know,I was sitting on the porch and I thought. "That color
coding
is screwy. I better make sure I didn't connect that battery wrong."
Sure enough,I had. Problem solved. Thanks.
I also took a Sharpie and wrote the color code on the battery box
cover so it won't happen again. Elden


Re: any tips for replacing '93 starter?

dave_king_ev
 

--- In ev_update@..., "Steve@..." <steve@...> wrote:

I spent about 3 hours removing and attempting to reinstall a rebuilt
start on my '93 automatic.

Removal wasn't difficult, but I'm having trouble getting the rebuilt in
place. I replaced the bushing, but can't seem to line up the
replacement starter.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Steve

636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk

I've replaced that bushing -- it's a sintered metal designed to hold
lubricant and it's brittle -- and it can be difficult to R&R. Are you
sure the new bushing is in all right? Any little chip will prevent
the starter shaft from seating fully.


any tips for replacing '93 starter?

 

I spent about 3 hours removing and attempting to reinstall a rebuilt start on my '93 automatic.

Removal wasn't difficult, but I'm having trouble getting the rebuilt in place. I replaced the bushing, but can't seem to line up the replacement starter.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Steve

636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk


Re: Power Converter tripping

 

--- In ev_update@..., "jack_son_73" <jackr1@...> wrote:

Elden-

Are you aware of the Winnie house wiring code
used on ALL of their added 12V DC EVC circuits?
Black = HOT = Plus. Green = Negative or Ground.
This as been mentioned here, but keeps getting
people in trouble.

I assume you are using the converter/charger.
There's a small 30A circuit breaker buried inside
it. It is identical to the one Winnie mounted
between front bat & the solenoid/relay on the
firewall of my '03 EVC.

The automatic reset breaker could be overloading,
or could be defective. It is difficult to get
access to, requiring removal of the plastic panel
below the closet.

I suggest checking wiring adjacent to the new rear
bat first. Do you have a test meter?

How do the galley lights work on just the battery
without AC or alternator charging?

Regards,

Jack_son
=================================================
--In ev_update@..., "eapling" <EApling@> wrote:

I replaced my dead coach battery but when I connect the
battery,the
power converter clicks every 10 seconds and the lights flick but
stay
on.. ????? thanks,Elden
Ya'know,I was sitting on the porch and I thought. "That color coding
is screwy. I better make sure I didn't connect that battery wrong."
Sure enough,I had. Problem solved. Thanks.
I also took a Sharpie and wrote the color code on the battery box
cover so it won't happen again. Elden


Re: VAGCOM on Seattle's Craig's list--THIS IS NOT LEGIT!

 

Thanks to all that replied.

When I saw the original post, I assumed it was an owner of a legitimate copy, merely selling his used version.

Guess the price was too good to be true.

Best,
JW

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Stuart MacMillan" <macgroup@...>
Folks, this is a hacked & pirated system. Legitimate USB Vag-Com "dongles"
have internal coded chips that couple to the software when it is downloaded
to any computer from the Ross-Tech web site and plugged into the test
vehicle. There is no software "key" to install. This guy has hacked a
"key" for one version of the software, and it would most likely be an old
version. Buy at your own risk, knowing you are supporting an illegal
operator.

Better yet, forget it and buy a legitimate dongle from Ross-Tech (or a
private party selling a real one that doesn't need a "key" or software disk)
so they can stay in business.

Stuart

Owner of a legitimate Vag-Com dongle.

_____

From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of Pete Peterson
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:37 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: VAGCOM on Seattle's Craig's list

This guy has been selling this on Craigslist since last year. His name
is Mike and he's a nice guy, with a fair amount of VW experience.

I met him, had him install it on my laptop and run a test on my 95 EVC
on the spot to make sure it worked. The engine test worked fine. I'm
glad he did the install for me because there were a couple of twists I
would have missed. I also bought the 2x2 cable from him which is needed
on the 95.

I have since tried to run it once and had issues, but he gave me his
number and I just haven't got around to calling him about it. Judging
from meeting him and his willingness to give me his number (which is
still the same), I expect he will walk me through my issue.

This is my experience for what it's worth.

Pete


Re: Power Converter tripping

jack_son_73
 

Elden-

Are you aware of the Winnie house wiring code
used on ALL of their added 12V DC EVC circuits?
Black = HOT = Plus. Green = Negative or Ground.
This as been mentioned here, but keeps getting
people in trouble.

I assume you are using the converter/charger.
There's a small 30A circuit breaker buried inside
it. It is identical to the one Winnie mounted
between front bat & the solenoid/relay on the
firewall of my '03 EVC.

The automatic reset breaker could be overloading,
or could be defective. It is difficult to get
access to, requiring removal of the plastic panel
below the closet.

I suggest checking wiring adjacent to the new rear
bat first. Do you have a test meter?

How do the galley lights work on just the battery
without AC or alternator charging?

Regards,

Jack_son
=================================================
--In ev_update@..., "eapling" <EApling@...> wrote:


I replaced my dead coach battery but when I connect the battery,the
power converter clicks every 10 seconds and the lights flick but stay
on.. ????? thanks,Elden


Power Converter tripping

 

I replaced my dead coach battery but when I connect the battery,the
power converter clicks every 10 seconds and the lights flick but stay
on.. ????? thanks,Elden


Re: VAGCOM on Seattle's Craig's list

Stuart MacMillan
 

Jack,



You don't need to be on line to use the Vag-Com, only to download the
software and install it on your computer. It doesn't come with a disk. If
you do have wi-fi, then you can look up lots of other useful diagnostic info
on their site too.



Stuart



_____

From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of jack_son_73
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:27 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: VAGCOM on Seattle's Craig's list



Steve -

Thanks for your input. I didn't know I was helping
to support a pirated operation.

Unfortunately, I've learned more about Vag Coms
in the past 2 days than the past 2 years +.

Personally, I'd pay 2 X price for a system that
didn't require hunting for a WiFi AP for my PC, &
didn't care which PC I used, just to read a code
when I'm not in my driveway. If at home, I could
take the other car, or drive 3 miles to Auto-Zone.

Regards,

Jack_son
=========================5========================
--In ev_update@yahoogrou <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"Steve@..." <steve@.> wrote:

You can buy cables on ebay for $12.99. You used to be able to
download
a free version of Vagcom on their website that had limited
capabilities. I have what seems to be an older full version that
does
not require a dongle. I have it on the computer at the office, so
I
don't recall what version it is. It works great on my 1993
Weekender
and 1999 GLS. It will not work on newer VW models.

I don't know if Ross Tech cares if someone offers a free copy of
this
software or not. My guess is this guy on Craig's list is buying
cheap
cables and copying the Vag-Com software.

Steve
. <> com
636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk
On May 23, 2008, at 10:39 PM, jack_son_73 wrote:

He didn't say how long it was going to take to
obtain more. He said he didn't have the software
'key', but was sending a free copy.


Re: VAGCOM on Seattle's Craig's list

jack_son_73
 

Steve -

Thanks for your input. I didn't know I was helping
to support a pirated operation.

Unfortunately, I've learned more about Vag Coms
in the past 2 days than the past 2 years +.

Personally, I'd pay 2 X price for a system that
didn't require hunting for a WiFi AP for my PC, &
didn't care which PC I used, just to read a code
when I'm not in my driveway. If at home, I could
take the other car, or drive 3 miles to Auto-Zone.

Regards,

Jack_son
=========================5========================
--In ev_update@..., "Steve@..." <steve@.> wrote:

You can buy cables on ebay for $12.99. You used to be able to
download
a free version of Vagcom on their website that had limited
capabilities. I have what seems to be an older full version that
does
not require a dongle. I have it on the computer at the office, so
I
don't recall what version it is. It works great on my 1993
Weekender
and 1999 GLS. It will not work on newer VW models.

I don't know if Ross Tech cares if someone offers a free copy of
this
software or not. My guess is this guy on Craig's list is buying
cheap
cables and copying the Vag-Com software.

Steve

636-337-7700
888-797-5994 - order desk
On May 23, 2008, at 10:39 PM, jack_son_73 wrote:

He didn't say how long it was going to take to
obtain more. He said he didn't have the software
'key', but was sending a free copy.