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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

Mike McCarthy
 

VW wants to break out of their traditional markets.......what were those, anyway?

1 -- Obviously, the Bug and to a lesser extent the Rabbit/Golf. That market is quite dead, imo. VW will keep the Bug, but the minimalist economy car is history. Modern economy cars are going to be high tech, and we'll see if VW makes a move there or not. I bet they will.

2 -- The pocket rocket: the Scirocco, the GTI. Rumors are that the Scirocco is coming back; some websites claim to have pages from the new brochure....we'll see. Boy racers drive Japanese cars these days, and have for quite a while, and it will take a generational change for German cars to be cool again. BMW was going to revive the 2002 (in 2002, naturally) but they decided not to, and probably wisely. There just aren't enough young guys into cars these days.

3 -- The unique van: the camper van, the multi-van, the van-like-no-other-van. I've said enough about that -- it's a too small niche; VW has left it, and they aren't coming back.

So, what will they do? What will their 5 models be?

The "German sedan." The Jetta, the Passat. Where can VW go with those? Make them any nicer and they cannibalize Audis. Will VW keep trying to attract the high end buyer. Maybe. I bet one or two of the "5 new models" is going to be a very different sedan (er, limo).

We've already seen their SUV and their Chrysler van.....

What's left? Maybe a compact Toureg (Rav4-ish)? Maybe a TDI pickup? A new Scirocco? Something edgy and "green"?



Ron wrote:


The only thing I like about the new plan in ESP across the line. IMHO, five new models alon
the lines of what they have been putting out is not what will turn things around for VW in
the US. Instead I believe they need to focus on getting back to their core strength which
used to be delivering unique, high quality, high efficiency, moderately priced vehicles that
offer safety and engineering features competitors either lack or are impossible to order
(like a EuroVan T5 clean diesel in 6 speed manual or automatic and side curtain airbags
std!). They also need to be quicker at bringing in unique engineering features to the US
and stay on track to continuosuly develop them. For example, the TDI was a big
opportunity that they managed to let slip away in the US. They were ahead of everyone
else and should have continuously improved the engine and added it to all models. An
incrementally cleaner engine should have come out a few years ago and the latest cleaner
diesel should have been waiting and ready to launch the moment the correct diesel fuel
became available. Instead, VW finds itself without any high efficiency TDIs models in a
year when fuel efficiency would be a big sales advantage.

Of course, along with a unique product they need highly trained dealerships that know
how to keep customers satisfied and coming back. Not easy to do but this becomes less
of an issue when product quality improves.

Of course I hope I am wrong and VW can find a way to survive in the US market. If not, I'll
need to make sure I can get a spare tranny for my 2003 EuroVan and that CD manual so
it is sure to last me a long time.
Ron

--- In ev_update@... <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com>, "Mike McCarthy" <mccarthy_mg@...> wrote:

Phil LeBeau (CNBC's excellent auto reporter) just had an exclusive
interview with VW North America's CEO Stefan Jacoby (an
English-speaking German who uses the word "limo" when referring what
Americans call sedans).
VW's sales in the US are down 16.7% over the 2003-05 period, and
Jacoby plans to reverse that slide by introducing
5 new models as part of their plan to "break out of traditional VW
markets" and instead focus on "limos, SUVs and cross-overs."

Jacoby also said that VW will make ESP standard in all models (and be
the first in US to do so).


Re: Tire pressure advice....

gti_matt
 

--- Sea2river@... wrote:
Ah, but there is a big difference in the 93 numbers vs Bob's label numbers
and that is that the higher pressure for the 93 is for the rear tires. That
means to me "max load."
Yes since the biggest difference seems to be the rear tires (and they exceed the front), I think
it's at least suspect that it's because of the expectation of a heavy load.

If it were me in a 93, I would pump the tires to the sticker pressures and load it up and that
is all.

When not equipped with *confirmed* factory recommended pressures for a full load, that's what I
would do too.



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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

gti_matt
 

--- Ron <robicare5@...> wrote:
The only thing I like about the new plan in ESP across the line.
VW shouldn't really get a lot of credit for that either. Like TPMS being standard across the line
for 2008 due to requirements, ESP is required for 2009 vehicles:




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Re: Tire pressure advice....

gti_matt
 

--- Mike McCarthy <mccarthy_mg@...> wrote:
That sounds logical, but look at the numbers:

Adam is using the right tire (Agilis 51 205/65x15 tires, max 54PSI) and
his sticker says 43/48 (front/rear) and nothing else. Is 43/48 for a
light load or full load?

Look at Bob's label numbers for approximately the same size tire
(205/60x16, less than 1% different than Adam's) shows two sets of
numbers: 36/49 (normal load) and 54/58 (max load)
To further complicate the matter, my '00 which uses the same Agilis tires in the same size says
42/36 for light load and 45/41 full load. Not only does that not agree with the '93 sticker in
any way, the rear pressure is much higher on the '93...so much so that it exceeds the front
pressure.

It doesn't look to me like there's reason to assume the simpler label
necessarily implies the max load.
There's not enough to assume that it implies normal load either.



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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

 

The only thing I like about the new plan in ESP across the line. IMHO, five new models alon
the lines of what they have been putting out is not what will turn things around for VW in
the US. Instead I believe they need to focus on getting back to their core strength which
used to be delivering unique, high quality, high efficiency, moderately priced vehicles that
offer safety and engineering features competitors either lack or are impossible to order
(like a EuroVan T5 clean diesel in 6 speed manual or automatic and side curtain airbags
std!). They also need to be quicker at bringing in unique engineering features to the US
and stay on track to continuosuly develop them. For example, the TDI was a big
opportunity that they managed to let slip away in the US. They were ahead of everyone
else and should have continuously improved the engine and added it to all models. An
incrementally cleaner engine should have come out a few years ago and the latest cleaner
diesel should have been waiting and ready to launch the moment the correct diesel fuel
became available. Instead, VW finds itself without any high efficiency TDIs models in a
year when fuel efficiency would be a big sales advantage.

Of course, along with a unique product they need highly trained dealerships that know
how to keep customers satisfied and coming back. Not easy to do but this becomes less
of an issue when product quality improves.

Of course I hope I am wrong and VW can find a way to survive in the US market. If not, I'll
need to make sure I can get a spare tranny for my 2003 EuroVan and that CD manual so
it is sure to last me a long time.
Ron

--- In ev_update@..., "Mike McCarthy" <mccarthy_mg@...> wrote:

Phil LeBeau (CNBC's excellent auto reporter) just had an exclusive
interview with VW North America's CEO Stefan Jacoby (an
English-speaking German who uses the word "limo" when referring what
Americans call sedans).
VW's sales in the US are down 16.7% over the 2003-05 period, and
Jacoby plans to reverse that slide by introducing
5 new models as part of their plan to "break out of traditional VW
markets" and instead focus on "limos, SUVs and cross-overs."

Jacoby also said that VW will make ESP standard in all models (and be
the first in US to do so).


Re: Tire pressure advice....

Mike McCarthy
 

it would be rather wrong to publish
one set of numbers for just a light load.
That sounds logical, but look at the numbers:

Adam is using the right tire (Agilis 51 205/65x15 tires, max 54PSI) and his sticker says 43/48 (front/rear) and nothing else. Is 43/48 for a light load or full load?

Look at Bob's label numbers for approximately the same size tire (205/60x16, less than 1% different than Adam's) shows two sets of numbers: 36/49 (normal load) and 54/58 (max load)

It doesn't look to me like there's reason to assume the simpler label necessarily implies the max load. It seems to me, rather, that the 43/48 set of numbers more closely matches the normal load, or is some kind of compromise between light and normal loads.

Which leads me to conclude if you are going to max out a '93 using 205/65x15 tires then you better add a little more than 43/48.

gti_matt wrote:

--- Adam Silver <adamsilver@... <mailto:adamsilver%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
I have a 1993 Eurovan Weekender which I am using to transport 2
motorcycles
(
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Combined they weigh ~800lbs plus probably an additional 200lbs for
all my gear
plus 200lbs for me. So, Im quite close to the payload limit (which I
understand to be ~1500lbs).

I have Michilin Agilis 51 205/65 R15C tires. On the sidewall they
say max
pressure is 54PSI. The sticker on the van says 43 front, 48 rear.

But, I'm wondering if I should increase the PSI due to the payload.
I agree w/the others that if there's one set of numbers it's probably for a load since it would be
rather wrong to publish one set of numbers for just a light load. Running the max pressure of
54PSI won't hurt except yeah the ride might get pretty coarse and the tire wear long term might be
worn more in the center of the tire and not more evenly spread out.

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Re: Tire pressure advice....

gti_matt
 

--- Adam Silver <adamsilver@...> wrote:
I have a 1993 Eurovan Weekender which I am using to transport 2 motorcycles
().

Combined they weigh ~800lbs plus probably an additional 200lbs for all my gear
plus 200lbs for me. So, Im quite close to the payload limit (which I
understand to be ~1500lbs).

I have Michilin Agilis 51 205/65 R15C tires. On the sidewall they say max
pressure is 54PSI. The sticker on the van says 43 front, 48 rear.

But, I'm wondering if I should increase the PSI due to the payload.
I agree w/the others that if there's one set of numbers it's probably for a load since it would be
rather wrong to publish one set of numbers for just a light load. Running the max pressure of
54PSI won't hurt except yeah the ride might get pretty coarse and the tire wear long term might be
worn more in the center of the tire and not more evenly spread out.


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Re: Good place to order EuroVan parts online?

gti_matt
 

--- Amy <amykwall@...> wrote:
I don't follow this list all the time, and remember seeing links to
good places to buy parts inexpensively. I would appreciate it if
someone could point me in the right direction.




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Re: wireless camera

gti_matt
 

--- Mike McCarthy <mccarthy_mg@...> wrote:
Ask your question about the reverse light and the license plate light more clearly.
Yeah I was confused there too. I assume what you (the O.P.) was trying to say is to locate the
camera in a central location such as the license plate area but trigger its operation from the
reverse light. (Right?)

Brown wires are usually the ground wires.
Yes.

That said, you want to tap into the 12v+ reverse light wire. It should not be brown...that is
ground. Go to either your left or right taillamp bulb holder (whichever side you think you will
be tapping into...doesn't matter...just pick the easiest one). Remove the bulb holder from the
taillamp. Follow the metal path that goes from the center terminal on the reverse bulb socket
(may have to remove bulb to clearly see) to the wire connector on the edge of the board. Whatever
wire corresponds to that location in the plug is your 12V+ wire for the back up lamp.

The extra harness that the O.P. mentioned might be the rear foglamp 12v+ wiring. I have that on
my '00 pre-wired from the factory as far as a wire (gray w/white stripe) just dangling in the back
near the right rear taillamp. That won't help for this purpose.


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Re: Tire pressure advice....

 

Did the 1993 EV's come with 205 65x15 tires?

The two Vanagons I had in the late 1990's came with 195 ?X14 or 15's (?).

My '97EVC door sticker says 51 front and 45 rear.
It originally came with 205 65x15 Goodyear Cargo Vectors.
I replaced those, due to cord failure at 18k miles, with Michelin Agilis
51's, the same tire he is running on his '93. I have run the Agilis ever since.
I usually run my Agilis 50 front and 48 rear.
My '97 is an EVC and considerably heavier than his '93 EV.

Since his '93 EV is lighter to begin with, but loaded to the max, I would
probably run his Agilis at the 50 front and 48 rear I run on my heavier EVC.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC




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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

 

The quality must be improved also (other car manufacturers are
getting better, but most Germany companies are not - except
Porsche. They will not make it, if they keep coming out cars with
transmission and A/C problems like we Eurovan owner experiencing.

We enjoy the Eurovan because it's special character and functionality
(camping). But majority customers in this world want to make sure
car "can run well" before consider anything else.

The price must be right too. VW is no BMW/MB; people willing to
compromise a little bit of quality to have the name of BMW/MB; but
not VW.


--- In ev_update@..., Sea2river@... wrote:

What pops into my mind? Poor service and expensive parts. If VW
does not
do something to correct that problem, current owners will be
looking elsewhere
when it comes to buying a new car.

Bob W.

In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:58:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tgastaldo@... writes:




"When you think of Volkswagen, what pops into your mind? Let me
guess: the
Beetle, Microbus, and Jetta all bring a smile to your
face...Questions?
Comments? _BehindTheWheel@BehindTh_ (mailto:BehindTheWheel@...) "
--Phil LeBeau
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Re: Tire pressure advice....

 

To clarify, one could go to Bentley and search for "tire pressures." The
fifth result provides separate data tables for vans without 4WD, with reinforced
tires, and for plain Caravelles and Multivans. But nowhere do the pressures
of 43F/48R appear for a 205/65R15C tire. In fact, most of the full load
pressures for the front are greater than the rear. These full load pressures vary
by load rating of the tire and do range from 38F/35R for a 99 rated tire in
one place and 44F/49R in another. If the tire's load rating is 102, the
pressures can be either 41F/36R or 51/46. It is no wonder VW techs get confused.

Since Gomi is factory-trained, I am sure he can clarify all of this.

Bob W.



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Re: Tire pressure advice....

 

Ah, but there is a big difference in the 93 numbers vs Bob's label numbers
and that is that the higher pressure for the 93 is for the rear tires. That
means to me "max load."

If it were me in a 93, I would pump the tires to the sticker pressures and
load it up and that is all.

Bob W.


In a message dated 3/6/2008 7:07:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mccarthy_mg@... writes:




it would be rather wrong to publish
one set of numbers for just a light load.
That sounds logical, but look at the numbers:

Adam is using the right tire (Agilis 51 205/65x15 tires, max 54PSI) and
his sticker says 43/48 (front/rear) and nothing else. Is 43/48 for a
light load or full load?

Look at Bob's label numbers for approximately the same size tire
(205/60x16, less than 1% different than Adam's) shows two sets of
numbers: 36/49 (normal load) and 54/58 (max load)

It doesn't look to me like there's reason to assume the simpler label
necessarily implies the max load. It seems to me, rather, that the
43/48 set of numbers more closely matches the normal load, or is some
kind of compromise between light and normal loads.

Which leads me to conclude if you are going to max out a '93 using
205/65x15 tires then you better add a little more than 43/48.








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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

 

What i think of is QUALITY. I have always had VW's since after my
first car a 53 chev. The beetles were fun and good for the day. But
begining with the rabbits, through 3 jettas and a 2002 evc, i am out
of patience with the constant and often same problems, year after
year. My wife seems to like our good mechanic or the 94 would be
history and the EVC is, because of ongoing quality problems. Bought a
2007 Pleasure-Way built on a Chevy chassis and the rig has NEVER been
in the shop, in 7000 miles. Something i could not say for any of my
water cooled rigs.

At some point they should wake up to the problems others have
mentioned with the way the treat dealers and thus us, and quality
problems. But if history is any indication of future behavior, i am
not hopefull and the market is speaking to them-they just do not want
to listen, so they crank out more garbage Torages. Most of us love
vw's for the things they do well, but they need to care for us at
some point.

Oh, and the looks of the new jetta-we could buy a Nissan for that
look and quality!!

Oh well... thanks for reading

ned


Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

jack_son_73
 

Bob

Speaking of VW service - In 1969 I totaled a VW in front of your
Annapolis VW dealer, when a kid with a 5 day old D L pulled out of
McD's, sandwich in face, across several lanes of traffic. VW charged
$35 tow - I should have pushed it in. I waited for a week for them to
get my new stick shift in & delivered, because they couldn't get
parts from the factory for repairing the wreck. VW threatened storage
charges for the wrecked car before the new one was ready. They forced
me into an automatic. I used the new VW to tow the wreck 4.5 miles
home.

I have a VW dealer story for each of the 6 states I've lived in while
owning VWs, + plus a few out-of-town. You'd expect a few stories
after 1.5 million VW miles - but not all dealer related.

Jack_son
========================================================
--- In ev_update@..., Sea2river@... wrote:

What pops into my mind? Poor service and expensive parts. If VW
does not
do something to correct that problem, current owners will be
looking elsewhere
when it comes to buying a new car.

Bob W.

In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:58:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tgastaldo@... writes:




"When you think of Volkswagen, what pops into your mind? Let me
guess: the
Beetle, Microbus, and Jetta all bring a smile to your
face...Questions?
Comments? _BehindTheWheel@BehindTh_ (mailto:BehindTheWheel@...) "
--Phil LeBeau
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Re: Tire pressure advice....

Mike McCarthy
 

Agreed, the single set number is probably safe to use fully loaded, and adding a bit more psi won't hurt either.



Sea2river@... wrote:


Mike,

I recall that picture of the sticker; it belongs to one adored 2001
Weekender: Mine.

If on the 93 EV there is only one set of numbers, it is safe to assume that
the numbers refer to a fully loaded EV. It would be criminal to post lightly
loaded pressures alone.


However, if one chooses to ignore the numbers and inflate the tire up to the
tires maximum pressure, it can only harm the suspension and the occupants'
kidneys.

Bob

In a message dated 3/6/2008 10:46:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mccarthy_mg@... <mailto:mccarthy_mg%40yahoo.com> writes:

I've got three stickers in front of me. My 93 EV and my 95 Rialta do
not show two sets of numbers (eg, lightly loaded and loaded). Rather,
they both show just one set: 43/48 (front/rear) for the EV and 50/57
(front/rear) for the Rialta.

Then, there's this sticker:
_ <>
( <>)
That's the mother of all stickers as far as I know. It's got FOUR sets
of numbers.

I think -- not sure though -- that stickers with multiple sets (eg,
lightly loaded and loaded) and the duplicate sets (eg, lightly loaded
and loaded, and for different size tires) did not show up until 1997 or
later.

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Re: Good place to order EuroVan parts online?

Mike McCarthy
 

The Big Four that support this list are:

europarts-sd.com
busdepot.com
eurocampers.com
gowesty.com


(I guess we can use The Big Four now that US carmakers are The Big Three, although lately I've seen that the financial press has demoted them to "The Detroit Three." ---- ouch)



Amy wrote:


Hello,

I don't follow this list all the time, and remember seeing links to
good places to buy parts inexpensively. I would appreciate it if
someone could point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
Amy :)


Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

Mike McCarthy
 

Well, sort of. The live comment LeBeau made about smiling faces only mentioned the "Bug" and the "Microbus," and then he noted that the folks who got sentimental for those models just aren't buying VWs. Fond memories aren't sales.

Jacoby also said they would produce new models in "North America," whatever that means.

(btw, typo in my first message.... s/b VW sales are down 16.7% for the 03-07 period, and also are down another 5.3% in 2008 already.)



Todd Gastaldo wrote:


"When you think of Volkswagen, what pops into your mind? Let me guess: the Beetle, Microbus, and Jetta all bring a smile to your face...Questions? Comments? BehindTheWheel@... <mailto:BehindTheWheel%40cnbc.com>"
--Phil LeBeau
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Video too.

Todd EVC02

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike McCarthy
To: ev_update@... <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:48 AM
Subject: [ev_update] VW to make announcement tomorrow

Phil LeBeau (CNBC's excellent auto reporter) just had an exclusive
interview with VW North America's CEO Stefan Jacoby (an
English-speaking German who uses the word "limo" when referring what
Americans call sedans).
VW's sales in the US are down 16.7% over the 2003-05 period, and
Jacoby plans to reverse that slide by introducing
5 new models as part of their plan to "break out of traditional VW
markets" and instead focus on "limos, SUVs and cross-overs."

Jacoby also said that VW will make ESP standard in all models (and be
the first in US to do so).

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Re: VW to make announcement tomorrow

 

That's pretty sad.

Maybe they should be the first to have 15 cupholders standard.

bill

On 6-Mar-08, at 10:48 AM, Mike McCarthy wrote:

Phil LeBeau (CNBC's excellent auto reporter) just had an exclusive
interview with VW North America's CEO Stefan Jacoby (an
English-speaking German who uses the word "limo" when referring what
Americans call sedans).
VW's sales in the US are down 16.7% over the 2003-05 period, and
Jacoby plans to reverse that slide by introducing
5 new models as part of their plan to "break out of traditional VW
markets" and instead focus on "limos, SUVs and cross-overs."

Jacoby also said that VW will make ESP standard in all models (and be
the first in US to do so).



Re: Muffler..er Wheel bearings?

Frank Zambotti
 

I'd say it probably is a wheel bearing. I just had a front wheel bearing replaced on my '03 GLS with only 57K miles. Same symptoms as you describe. After replacement everything is back to normal. I was not surprised at needing this replacement due to the fact that I drive mostly on twisty, windy, hilly, secondary roads in western PA that eat EV tires on average within 15K miles....



Frank Z

03 GLS

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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf Of Mike McCarthy
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:19 AM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Muffler..er Wheel bearings?



Agreed....it's unusual if it's a wheel bearing. I can't recall anyone
replacing a wheel bearing (and the front end is talked about all the
time: CV boots and joints, shocks, tie rod ends, ball joints, but not
wheel bearings).

Could it be the tire? Try rotating it with the passenger rear and see
if the noise is moves or disappears.

David K. Ellis wrote:

My '03 T4 which is at 75k miles is suddenly making a droning sound
from the passenger side front wheel area. We hear it at highway speeds
especially when loading the passenger side such as when turning left
(lane change) or driving on a heavily crowned road in a lane that
slopes down from left to right. Seems like a wheel bearing to me but I
have never owned a vehicle that needed a wheel bearing at 75k miles.
This - of corse - pops up when we have a 700 mile trip planned for
next week.

Any experience with this?

Thanks,

David K. Ellis

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