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Re: Will Grid Crash by EVs? EC Newsletter
On the topic of "will EV charging crash the grid" -- I picked up a marketing research paper today on this topic.? The paper can be retrieved from this link:
It's talking about "Managed Charging" as a solution for the "EV charging crash the grid" concern.? BTW, my job is currently involved with an EV Charging Network where we're working on software about that issue.
The contention is that "managed charging" is required - meaning that EV charging is coordinated to prefer to happen during times when electricity demand is low.? Such time periods will also correspond to times when the minute-to-minute electricity price is the lowest, such as mid-day when there's lots of solar electricity on the grid.
"Managed charging" requires an EVSE with enough intelligence to communicate over the Internet with something that can advise the EVSE to adjust the charging rate up or down.
+ David Herron
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 9:45?PM Sybil J. Cramer via <sybiljcramer256= [email protected]> wrote: Hi to All -?
Some interesting Updates - and info on State of Today¡¯²õ EV market, EV Trucking conference in San Francisco - 12/3 - 4, and more! ? Read on ¡ª If you want to get future e-newsletters from the Electrification Coalition - about EVs, EV Charging, etc ¡ª contact them at their email below. ~Sybil Begin forwarded message:
? Will EVs Crash the Grid? Veterans Discuss EVs, National Security, and Grid ResiliencyIn honor of National Veterans and Military Families Month, the Electrification Coalition¡¯²õ Veterans for EVs initiative hosted a webinar to tackle questions surrounding grid resiliency and reveal how EVs can actually make the grid and U.S. national security stronger.?. Looking Ahead: The State of the EVSE MarketOn October 17, the EC hosted a webinar on the electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE) market in the United States.?Speakers examined the key advancements in funding, technology, and charging capabilities that emerged in the last year, and gave a preview of what's on the horizon for next year.?. Funding the Future: Green Financing Solutions for EV Charging StationsOn October 14, the EC hosted a webinar on green financing solutions for EV charging stations. Speakers?shared what public and private resources are available to those interested in deploying charging infrastructure, and how to use those resources to boost economic growth and maximize the benefits of charging investments.?.
? WORKPLACE CHARGING:Electric Vehicle Adoption Leadership Certification Turns One!Since launching a year ago this month, Electric Vehicle Adoption Leadership (EVAL) has seen significant growth in certifications across the country, with over 300 workplaces now EVAL certified. Join recently certified organizations including Santa Fe County, Clarksville Commons, and San Diego Gas and Electric and?! ? EC Business Council UpdatesEinride?and PepsiCo have partnered to?¡ªa decision expected to significantly reduce PepsiCo¡¯²õ annual emissions. By electrifying its fleet, PepsiCo continues its commitment to sustainability and Einride further demonstrates the potential of electric solutions in the freight industry.? Nissan?has launched the??to streamline EV ownership and charging. With the MyNISSAN app, drivers of the Nissan Ariya and future EV models can now locate charging stations, view real-time availability, and pay for charging¡ªall on one platform. Panasonic¡¯²õ?new?. This advancement in battery technology supports longer, more efficient journeys for EV drivers. Uber?now has over?¡ªwhich lets users choose hybrid or electric rides¡ªis?available in more than 200 cities worldwide.?? ? Driven by stricter clean transportation regulations, federal BIL and IRA funding, and expanding charging infrastructure, electric trucks are set to transform the U.S. road freight sector.?, a conference organized by Global Transmission Report, is scheduled to be held on?December 3¨C4?at the?San Francisco Marriott Waterfront. Register to join industry experts and peers working to accelerate the transition to electric trucks and advance sustainable freight transportation in the U.S.?? 180 Speakers, 65 Sessions, 240 Exhibitors, 5,000+ Attendees.??happening?March 25¨C27, 2025?in?Las Vegas?is the only charging-centric event strictly focused on connecting EV charging infrastructure and technology to industry leaders, government officials, municipalities, utility companies, residential and commercial decision-makers, and researchers from across the globe. Register today.? ? ? |
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Will Grid Crash by EVs? EC Newsletter
Hi to All -?
Some interesting Updates - and info on State of Today¡¯²õ EV market, EV Trucking conference in San Francisco - 12/3 - 4, and more! ? Read on ¡ª If you want to get future e-newsletters from the Electrification Coalition - about EVs, EV Charging, etc ¡ª contact them at their email below. ~Sybil
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? Will EVs Crash the Grid? Veterans Discuss EVs, National Security, and Grid ResiliencyIn honor of National Veterans and Military Families Month, the Electrification Coalition¡¯²õ Veterans for EVs initiative hosted a webinar to tackle questions surrounding grid resiliency and reveal how EVs can actually make the grid and U.S. national security stronger.?. Looking Ahead: The State of the EVSE MarketOn October 17, the EC hosted a webinar on the electric vehicle supply equipment (EVSE) market in the United States.?Speakers examined the key advancements in funding, technology, and charging capabilities that emerged in the last year, and gave a preview of what's on the horizon for next year.?. Funding the Future: Green Financing Solutions for EV Charging StationsOn October 14, the EC hosted a webinar on green financing solutions for EV charging stations. Speakers?shared what public and private resources are available to those interested in deploying charging infrastructure, and how to use those resources to boost economic growth and maximize the benefits of charging investments.?.
? WORKPLACE CHARGING:Electric Vehicle Adoption Leadership Certification Turns One!Since launching a year ago this month, Electric Vehicle Adoption Leadership (EVAL) has seen significant growth in certifications across the country, with over 300 workplaces now EVAL certified. Join recently certified organizations including Santa Fe County, Clarksville Commons, and San Diego Gas and Electric and?! ? EC Business Council UpdatesEinride?and PepsiCo have partnered to?¡ªa decision expected to significantly reduce PepsiCo¡¯²õ annual emissions. By electrifying its fleet, PepsiCo continues its commitment to sustainability and Einride further demonstrates the potential of electric solutions in the freight industry.? Nissan?has launched the??to streamline EV ownership and charging. With the MyNISSAN app, drivers of the Nissan Ariya and future EV models can now locate charging stations, view real-time availability, and pay for charging¡ªall on one platform. Panasonic¡¯²õ?new?. This advancement in battery technology supports longer, more efficient journeys for EV drivers. Uber?now has over?¡ªwhich lets users choose hybrid or electric rides¡ªis?available in more than 200 cities worldwide.?? ? Driven by stricter clean transportation regulations, federal BIL and IRA funding, and expanding charging infrastructure, electric trucks are set to transform the U.S. road freight sector.?, a conference organized by Global Transmission Report, is scheduled to be held on?December 3¨C4?at the?San Francisco Marriott Waterfront. Register to join industry experts and peers working to accelerate the transition to electric trucks and advance sustainable freight transportation in the U.S.?? 180 Speakers, 65 Sessions, 240 Exhibitors, 5,000+ Attendees.??happening?March 25¨C27, 2025?in?Las Vegas?is the only charging-centric event strictly focused on connecting EV charging infrastructure and technology to industry leaders, government officials, municipalities, utility companies, residential and commercial decision-makers, and researchers from across the globe. Register today.? ? ? |
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Re: CHAdeMO and Electrify America
As a Nissan Leaf driver, this question interested me as well, and I
made some inquiries with people in the public charging business, and
in CA state government.? So far, the answer seems to be that there
is no requirement for public charging networks to provide any
CHAdeMO (forgive me if I mis-capitalized that) ports.?
I see an adapter in my future.
Ben
On 11/11/2024 8:25 PM, JoeS. via
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I was delighted to see that Electrify America had finally
reactivated the charging station complex at the Walmart near San
Antonio and El Camino in Mountain View by installing brand-new
stations.
Imagine my surprise when I realized that they no longer had
even the single CHAdeMO connector.
I realize that they have done this in other states, but I
thought that in California all the dcfc stations were required
to have CHAdeMO.
Where can I find those requirements?
Joe Siudzinski
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Re: CHAdeMO and Electrify America
Ben, thanks for answering.
I had a second part to my post (which I deleted before posting) which discussed the CCS1-->CHAdeMO adapters. There are a number of these adapters on Amazon, with prices up to $3000. A2Z makes one for $1000 that's had good reviews, but it's still hard to justify this price for an i-MiEV as in our area EVgo and ChargePoint still service us quite nicely and it's been many years since I drove my i-MiEV (EPA range 62 miles) up to Tahoe.
Further rationalizing this, my 2013 MS85 Tesla is evidently not retrofittable for CCS1; however, I do have a CHAdeMO-->Tesla adapter for it. So, my thinking is that I could use the CCS1-->CHAdeMO adapter not only for my i-MiEVs but with my Tesla as well.
When I contacted A2Z they allowed as they had not tested their adapter with the Tesla CHAdeMO adapter but offered a free return if I bought one and it didn't work. I'm a little wary of being a guinea pig with my still fairly-expensive Tesla.
Our Tesla continues being used exclusively for very long-distance trips (just put on 6000 miles not just in California but Nevada-Utah-Colorado-New Mexico-Arizona), with the Tesla Supercharger network being second to none. My highest CHAdeMO-Tesla adapter usage has been in Canada where years ago it proved to be invaluable.
Back on topic, I was disappointed to see that Electrify America is now completely dropping CHAdeMO and am still looking to find out what the requirements are for dcfc stations in California.
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On Nov 11, 2024, at 20:41, Ben White <BenWhite@...> wrote:
Joe,
I don't know the answer to your question, and as a Nissan Leaf
driver, I am concerned about the same problem.? I'm also a regular
reader of the Nissan Leaf owner forum (mynissanleaf.com), and
there's been a lot of buzz on the forum lately about a CCS to
CHAdeMO adapter that seems to be fairly reliable:?
Caution:? all the testing that has been self-reported on the forum
was done with various Leafs as the vehicle being charged.? It might
not be so great with the iMiev.
Ben
On 11/11/2024 8:25 PM, JoeS. via
groups.io wrote:
I was delighted to see that Electrify America had finally
reactivated the charging station complex at the Walmart near San
Antonio and El Camino in Mountain View by installing brand-new
stations.
Imagine my surprise when I realized that they no longer had
even the single CHAdeMO connector.
I realize that they have done this in other states, but I
thought that in California all the dcfc stations were required
to have CHAdeMO.
Where can I find those requirements?
Joe Siudzinski
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Re: CHAdeMO and Electrify America
Joe,
I don't know the answer to your question, and as a Nissan Leaf
driver, I am concerned about the same problem.? I'm also a regular
reader of the Nissan Leaf owner forum (mynissanleaf.com), and
there's been a lot of buzz on the forum lately about a CCS to
CHAdeMO adapter that seems to be fairly reliable:?
Caution:? all the testing that has been self-reported on the forum
was done with various Leafs as the vehicle being charged.? It might
not be so great with the iMiev.
Ben
On 11/11/2024 8:25 PM, JoeS. via
groups.io wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I was delighted to see that Electrify America had finally
reactivated the charging station complex at the Walmart near San
Antonio and El Camino in Mountain View by installing brand-new
stations.
Imagine my surprise when I realized that they no longer had
even the single CHAdeMO connector.
I realize that they have done this in other states, but I
thought that in California all the dcfc stations were required
to have CHAdeMO.
Where can I find those requirements?
Joe Siudzinski
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CHAdeMO and Electrify America
I was delighted to see that Electrify America had finally reactivated the charging station complex at the Walmart near San Antonio and El Camino in Mountain View by installing brand-new stations.
Imagine my surprise when I realized that they no longer had even the single CHAdeMO connector.
I realize that they have done this in other states, but I thought that in California all the dcfc stations were required to have CHAdeMO.
Where can I find those requirements?
Joe Siudzinski
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How Many Things Can A Bus Transit Study Get Wrong?
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San Jose Electric Vehicle Association meeting Saturday November 9, 2024 10-12pm
Hello All,
If you are interested in Electric Vehicles, consider attending one of our
meetings.
All EVA meetings are free and open to anyone who is interested in
Electric Vehicles (EVs).
The meetings are held on the 2nd Saturday of every month.
From 10 A.M. until 12 noon
The meetings are held at the Reid Hillview Airport terminal building.
Located at 2500 Cunningham Ave, San Jose, CA
Directions to the meetings are as follows.
Take Hwy. 101 to Hwy. 680 North, exit & turn right onto Capital
Expressway.
Travel on Capital Expressway West for approximately 2 miles;
turn right onto Cunningham. The meeting room is in the terminal at the
end of the road.
A typical meeting of the SJEVA is casual and informative. A round table
is held after chapter business is completed. Topics are typically very
technical from the folks who are building and driving real world electric
vehicles today. Come attend a free EVA meeting and learn from EVA members
who have been building and driving Electric Vehicles for 50 years.
Become a San Jose EAA Member of our nonprofit organization and Show Your
Support for a cleaner public transportation option.
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Secretary, SJEVA
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Scout Motors' electric rebirth is imminent.
Howdy,
For those who are not subscribers to Inside EVs, there is a lot of interesting news in the email?below.
Jerry ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: InsideEVs <[email protected]>Date: Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 2:10?PM Subject: Scout Motors' electric rebirth is imminent. To: < jerry.pohorsky@...>
Volkswagen is reviving an iconic American off-road brand.?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
It¡¯²õ never a dull day at InsideEVs. Legacy automakers and startups are ramping up their EV game and even defunct brands are being resurrected in an electric avatar.
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Scout Motors, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Volkswagen Group will reveal an electric SUV and pickup truck on Thursday. We're expecting them to be rugged, adventure-ready machines (probably with Rivian vibes) manufactured in the U.S., at a new plant in South Carolina¡ªassuming everything stays on track. We'll bring you live updates from the reveal, so make sure you stay tuned to InsideEVs.
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In other news today, Arkansas apparently has enough lithium to power the world's EVs but there's a big question mark over how much of that can be extracted. Also, the Zeekr Mix MPV makes the VW ID. Buzz look rather incomplete and the Dodge Charger Daytona EV will reportedly get solid-state batteries.
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UPDATE: Closure of Enel X Way USA, LLC
? Last day save for JuiceBox EV charger users.?
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From: Enel X Way USA <donotreply@...>
Date: October 10, 2024 at 4:31:22?PM PDT
Subject: UPDATE: Closure of Enel X Way USA, LLC
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UPDATE: Closure of Enel X Way USA, LLC
Enel X Way USA, LLC ¡¤ 360 Industrial Road ¡¤ San Carlos, CA 940070 ¡¤ USA
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
Hi Sybil,
Clipper Creek has been acquired by Enphase, so I those chargers now have the Enphase brand.? Also, Clipper Creek used to offer a wide variety of charger models to give buyers a lot of options. Enphase has reduced the product line to fewer models. ?
I believe that the chargers are no longer made in the USA.
I did buy one of the JuiceBox chargers late last year using a rebate from Silicon Valley Power.? I have not used it yet, but I did pay an extra $50 to get the iPhone app. I suppose I should follow the advice from Lawrence before it is too late.
My RAV 4 EV uses a magnetic charger so until I get a newer EV I have just been using it as a ¡°show and tell¡± example at the EV shows we have been invited to.
Jerry?
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:20 AM Sybil J. Cramer via <sybiljcramer256= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Lawrence. ? I just plug into a ?120V outlet, so doesn¡¯t effect me personally.?
But we want to give out accurate information about home charging stations when we table at EV and other Events ¡ª Right Jerry?
I usually recommend Clipper Creek as reliable home chargers if people ask.? Any comments appreciated.
Sybil
Sybil,
Given their reduced functionality and therefore likely depressed prices, they¡¯d be a great deal if you are content with a basic EV car charger (EVSE) with no remotely adjustable settings, no load sharing capability, possibly no customer service, and unknown warranty service, given Enel X has not yet announced who will be taking over their legal obligations in North America.
It all depends on what your needs are.? Most people don¡¯t use the app at all and many EVSEs are no longer supported (offer replacement parts) by the manufacturer after the 3 year warranty expires (Siemens!), so a basic unit that will likely last that long without the need for repair at a reduced price for lack of app control might be perfect.?
Lawrence?
?Hi Lawrence,
A lot of this technical information is over my head (I taught English and am not very tech savvy)
Bottom line ¡ª Are you saying you do not recommend purchasing JuiceBox Home EVSEs now and in the future?
Thanks, Sybil
? All,
Last night at 11pm I received the following link via an EV email list:
I found a few other articles on the topic and read all the comments.?
The short story is that the Enel X Way app that can control your JuiceBox or Enel X electric vehicle charger is being discontinued on October 11th.?
My suggestion is that, through the app, you check that your EVSE is online and set to the maximum amperage your circuit can handle and that scheduled charging is turned off.? Avoid toggling any settings that don¡¯t require it, as customer support may not be available if there¡¯²õ a problem.? Then unpair the charger.? An extra precaution would be to cancel your account.?
On 2018 and 2019 JuiceBox EVSEs, there¡¯²õ a trim pot (variable resistor) on the circuit board to hardware limit the amperage. Setting the app to the maximum and using the trimpot preserves your options.? Opening the cover of a unit that has been outdoors may take several applications of penetrating oil and light tapping with a hammer over the course of as many days, as it did for me.?
I also encourage you to take your EVSE off your WiFi network to further reduce exposure to its settings being adjusted by nefarious actors at some point in the future.? If you can¡¯t do this by cycling the EVSE¡¯²õ power and logging into its own WiFi network, you can put it on your WiFi router¡¯²õ blocked list.?
JuiceBox was a seemingly solid local company in San Carlos, but then were bought up by the Italian Enel X.? Even recently I was impressed by their very responsive and diligent customer service, easily reached by phone and email.? Now Enel X is consolidating their operations to countries where they also sell electricity; the USA and Canada are not amongst them.?
The worst of it is that all of their commercial and public chargers will become unusable overnight, as they require continual connection to the Enel X server.?
Good luck in weathering the transition and please spread the word so others aren¡¯t left with an unusable home EV charger.
Thanks.?
Lawrence?
Reference links regarding Enel X shutting down in USA and Canada:?
Email address for company sanctioned information:
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EV Discounts Fall 2024 ¨C Ride and Drive Clean
Ride & Drive Clean's fall EV discount program has begun:
There will also be an offering for pre-owned (used) EVs coming up soon.? I will post here when I have more info.
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 13:47 -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 14:57 -0400, Peter Blackford wrote:
Stick with a quality company- Siemens makes an excellent unit, and
the
price difference is not significant considering the long life of
the
units
(ours is more than ten years old, still works like new).
I recommend Tesla "chargers".? They sell the Mobile Connector for
$250, which may be near their cost.? This is the portable EVSE that
they used to include with cars.? It comes with NEMA 5-15 (household
wall outlet) and 14-50 (appliance wall outlet) adapters for Level 1
and Level 2 charging.
The wall mount Universal Wall Connector which supports power sharing
and J1772 in addition to NACS is $550.
The regular Wall Connector which supports NACS only is $420.
Tesla may be selling all of these at their cost, which is lowest due
to extensive engineering effort to reduce cost and improve
manufacturing efficiency.
For those more concerned about politics, Siemens actively supported
the Holocaust.? Google it. ?
An no, Elon Musk is not remotely like Hitler.? He's defending
freedom.
That's kind of the opposite.? Even if you disagree with him.? He's
done more for the environment than most.? Even if you dislike him. P.S. Not picking on Pete here. The point is that Tesla has excellent EVSEs at likely the lowest price for top quality. It has probably built millions more EVSEs than?Juice Box or Siemens or Clipper Creek. Cheers, Jeff C.
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
Whoa!
I just retired a 4 year old Siemens VersiCharge VG2. After its 3 year warranty expired, Siemens said it was unfixable. Its main board had an issue, but the cords, case, contactor, and current leak coil were all fine. They suggested we throw it out.
Perhaps I¡¯ll be able to repair the main board, but haven¡¯t had time to dig into it. Or find a replacement. In a worst case scenario, I replace the board with a $130 openEVSE one.
Can¡¯t say I¡¯d recommend Siemens.
Lawrence
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On Oct 8, 2024, at 1:47?PM, Jeff Chan <eaasv@...> wrote: ?On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 14:57 -0400, Peter Blackford wrote: Stick with a quality company- Siemens makes an excellent unit, and
the
price difference is not significant considering the long life of the
units
(ours is more than ten years old, still works like new). I recommend Tesla "chargers". They sell the Mobile Connector for $250, which may be near their cost. This is the portable EVSE that they used to include with cars. It comes with NEMA 5-15 (household wall outlet) and 14-50 (appliance wall outlet) adapters for Level 1 and Level 2 charging. The wall mount Universal Wall Connector which supports power sharing and J1772 in addition to NACS is $550. The regular Wall Connector which supports NACS only is $420. Tesla may be selling all of these at their cost, which is lowest due to extensive engineering effort to reduce cost and improve manufacturing efficiency. For those more concerned about politics, Siemens actively supported the Holocaust. Google it. An no, Elon Musk is not remotely like Hitler. He's defending freedom. That's kind of the opposite. Even if you disagree with him. He's done more for the environment than most. Even if you dislike him. Cheers, Jeff C.
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
On Tue, 2024-10-08 at 14:57 -0400, Peter Blackford wrote: Stick with a quality company- Siemens makes an excellent unit, and
the
price difference is not significant considering the long life of the
units
(ours is more than ten years old, still works like new). I recommend Tesla "chargers". They sell the Mobile Connector for $250, which may be near their cost. This is the portable EVSE that they used to include with cars. It comes with NEMA 5-15 (household wall outlet) and 14-50 (appliance wall outlet) adapters for Level 1 and Level 2 charging. The wall mount Universal Wall Connector which supports power sharing and J1772 in addition to NACS is $550. The regular Wall Connector which supports NACS only is $420. Tesla may be selling all of these at their cost, which is lowest due to extensive engineering effort to reduce cost and improve manufacturing efficiency. For those more concerned about politics, Siemens actively supported the Holocaust. Google it. ? An no, Elon Musk is not remotely like Hitler. He's defending freedom. That's kind of the opposite. Even if you disagree with him. He's done more for the environment than most. Even if you dislike him. Cheers, Jeff C.
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
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On Oct 8, 2024, at 12:45?PM, Lawrence Garwin via groups.io <lawrencegarwin@...> wrote:
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Just in!
An app replacement is available now and an open source solution is being developed.?
On Oct 8, 2024, at 11:20?AM, Sybil J. Cramer <sybiljcramer256@...> wrote:
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Thanks, Lawrence. ? I just plug into a ?120V outlet, so doesn¡¯t effect me personally.?
But we want to give out accurate information about home charging stations when we table at EV and other Events ¡ª Right Jerry?
I usually recommend Clipper Creek as reliable home chargers if people ask. ?Any comments appreciated.
Sybil
Sybil,
Given their reduced functionality and therefore likely depressed prices, they¡¯d be a great deal if you are content with a basic EV car charger (EVSE) with no remotely adjustable settings, no load sharing capability, possibly no customer service, and unknown warranty service, given Enel X has not yet announced who will be taking over their legal obligations in North America.
It all depends on what your needs are. ?Most people don¡¯t use the app at all and many EVSEs are no longer supported (offer replacement parts) by the manufacturer after the 3 year warranty expires (Siemens!), so a basic unit that will likely last that long without the need for repair at a reduced price for lack of app control might be perfect.?
Lawrence?
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Hi Lawrence,
A lot of this technical information is over my head (I taught English and am not very tech savvy)
Bottom line ¡ª Are you saying you do not recommend purchasing JuiceBox Home EVSEs now and in the future?
Thanks,
Sybil
?
All,
Last night at 11pm I received the following link via an EV email list:
I found a few other articles on the topic and read all the comments.?
The short story is that the Enel X Way app that can control your JuiceBox or Enel X electric vehicle charger is being discontinued on October 11th.?
My suggestion is that, through the app, you check that your EVSE is online and set to the maximum amperage your circuit can handle and that scheduled charging is turned off.? Avoid toggling any settings that don¡¯t require it, as customer support may not be available if there¡¯²õ a problem.? Then unpair the charger.? An extra precaution would be to cancel your account.?
On 2018 and 2019 JuiceBox EVSEs, there¡¯²õ a trim pot (variable resistor) on the circuit board to hardware limit the amperage. Setting the app to the maximum and using the trimpot preserves your options. ?Opening the cover of a unit that has been outdoors may take several applications of penetrating oil and light tapping with a hammer over the course of as many days, as it did for me.?
I also encourage you to take your EVSE off your WiFi network to further reduce exposure to its settings being adjusted by nefarious actors at some point in the future. ?If you can¡¯t do this by cycling the EVSE¡¯²õ power and logging into its own WiFi network, you can put it on your WiFi router¡¯²õ blocked list.?
JuiceBox was a seemingly solid local company in San Carlos, but then were bought up by the Italian Enel X.? Even recently I was impressed by their very responsive and diligent customer service, easily reached by phone and email.? Now Enel X is consolidating their operations to countries where they also sell electricity; the USA and Canada are not amongst them.?
The worst of it is that all of their commercial and public chargers will become unusable overnight, as they require continual connection to the Enel X server.?
Good luck in weathering the transition and please spread the word so others aren¡¯t left with an unusable home EV charger.
Thanks.?
Lawrence?
Reference links regarding Enel X shutting down in USA and Canada:?
Email address for company sanctioned information:
Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
Just in!
An app replacement is available now and an open source solution is being developed.?
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On Oct 8, 2024, at 11:20?AM, Sybil J. Cramer <sybiljcramer256@...> wrote: ? Thanks, Lawrence. ? I just plug into a ?120V outlet, so doesn¡¯t effect me personally.?
But we want to give out accurate information about home charging stations when we table at EV and other Events ¡ª Right Jerry?
I usually recommend Clipper Creek as reliable home chargers if people ask. ?Any comments appreciated.
Sybil
Sybil,
Given their reduced functionality and therefore likely depressed prices, they¡¯d be a great deal if you are content with a basic EV car charger (EVSE) with no remotely adjustable settings, no load sharing capability, possibly no customer service, and unknown warranty service, given Enel X has not yet announced who will be taking over their legal obligations in North America.
It all depends on what your needs are. ?Most people don¡¯t use the app at all and many EVSEs are no longer supported (offer replacement parts) by the manufacturer after the 3 year warranty expires (Siemens!), so a basic unit that will likely last that long without the need for repair at a reduced price for lack of app control might be perfect.?
Lawrence?
? Hi Lawrence,
A lot of this technical information is over my head (I taught English and am not very tech savvy)
Bottom line ¡ª Are you saying you do not recommend purchasing JuiceBox Home EVSEs now and in the future?
Thanks, Sybil
? All,
Last night at 11pm I received the following link via an EV email list:
I found a few other articles on the topic and read all the comments.?
The short story is that the Enel X Way app that can control your JuiceBox or Enel X electric vehicle charger is being discontinued on October 11th.?
My suggestion is that, through the app, you check that your EVSE is online and set to the maximum amperage your circuit can handle and that scheduled charging is turned off.? Avoid toggling any settings that don¡¯t require it, as customer support may not be available if there¡¯²õ a problem.? Then unpair the charger.? An extra precaution would be to cancel your account.?
On 2018 and 2019 JuiceBox EVSEs, there¡¯²õ a trim pot (variable resistor) on the circuit board to hardware limit the amperage. Setting the app to the maximum and using the trimpot preserves your options. ?Opening the cover of a unit that has been outdoors may take several applications of penetrating oil and light tapping with a hammer over the course of as many days, as it did for me.?
I also encourage you to take your EVSE off your WiFi network to further reduce exposure to its settings being adjusted by nefarious actors at some point in the future. ?If you can¡¯t do this by cycling the EVSE¡¯²õ power and logging into its own WiFi network, you can put it on your WiFi router¡¯²õ blocked list.?
JuiceBox was a seemingly solid local company in San Carlos, but then were bought up by the Italian Enel X.? Even recently I was impressed by their very responsive and diligent customer service, easily reached by phone and email.? Now Enel X is consolidating their operations to countries where they also sell electricity; the USA and Canada are not amongst them.?
The worst of it is that all of their commercial and public chargers will become unusable overnight, as they require continual connection to the Enel X server.?
Good luck in weathering the transition and please spread the word so others aren¡¯t left with an unusable home EV charger.
Thanks.?
Lawrence?
Reference links regarding Enel X shutting down in USA and Canada:?
Email address for company sanctioned information:
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
Stick with a quality company- Siemens makes an excellent unit, and the price difference is not significant considering the long life of the units (ours is more than ten years old, still works like new).
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, 1:54?PM Sybil J. Cramer via <sybiljcramer256= [email protected]> wrote: Hi Lawrence,
A lot of this technical information is over my head (I taught English and am not very tech savvy)
Bottom line ¡ª Are you saying you do not recommend purchasing JuiceBox Home EVSEs now and in the future?
Thanks, Sybil
? All,
Last night at 11pm I received the following link via an EV email list:
I found a few other articles on the topic and read all the comments.?
The short story is that the Enel X Way app that can control your JuiceBox or Enel X electric vehicle charger is being discontinued on October 11th.?
My suggestion is that, through the app, you check that your EVSE is online and set to the maximum amperage your circuit can handle and that scheduled charging is turned off.? Avoid toggling any settings that don¡¯t require it, as customer support may not be available if there¡¯²õ a problem.? Then unpair the charger.? An extra precaution would be to cancel your account.?
On 2018 and 2019 JuiceBox EVSEs, there¡¯²õ a trim pot (variable resistor) on the circuit board to hardware limit the amperage. Setting the app to the maximum and using the trimpot preserves your options.? Opening the cover of a unit that has been outdoors may take several applications of penetrating oil and light tapping with a hammer over the course of as many days, as it did for me.?
I also encourage you to take your EVSE off your WiFi network to further reduce exposure to its settings being adjusted by nefarious actors at some point in the future.? If you can¡¯t do this by cycling the EVSE¡¯²õ power and logging into its own WiFi network, you can put it on your WiFi router¡¯²õ blocked list.?
JuiceBox was a seemingly solid local company in San Carlos, but then were bought up by the Italian Enel X.? Even recently I was impressed by their very responsive and diligent customer service, easily reached by phone and email.? Now Enel X is consolidating their operations to countries where they also sell electricity; the USA and Canada are not amongst them.?
The worst of it is that all of their commercial and public chargers will become unusable overnight, as they require continual connection to the Enel X server.?
Good luck in weathering the transition and please spread the word so others aren¡¯t left with an unusable home EV charger.
Thanks.?
Lawrence?
Reference links regarding Enel X shutting down in USA and Canada:?
Email address for company sanctioned information:
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$60K !! Not really in a hippy piggy bank range. ?However all of us ¡¯70¡¯²õ Hippies are now Boomers, so¡. perhaps some can afford it ¡ª and will buy for nostalgia¡¯²õ sake, I imagine. ??
Especially those with kids or grandkids (and surfboards?) who need the extra room and don¡¯t want to get the PHEV Chrysler mini-van. ?But thanks for your comment, David. Always great to hear from you.
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On Oct 8, 2024, at 11:18 AM, David Herron via < david@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 7:30?PM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Howdy,
This retro style VW EV van is almost here.
See below for more info.
Jerry?
At a price of $59,999 it has about as much of the original spirit of the old school VW Bus as the styling of the new style Mustang has to do with the original 64 1/2 Mustang.
Both are a hijacking of an original concept that negates the original.
+ David Herron ?
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Re: Attention JuiceBox and Enel X EVSE Users!
Thanks, Lawrence. ? I just plug into a ?120V outlet, so doesn¡¯t effect me personally.?
But we want to give out accurate information about home charging stations when we table at EV and other Events ¡ª Right Jerry?
I usually recommend Clipper Creek as reliable home chargers if people ask. ?Any comments appreciated.
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Sybil,
Given their reduced functionality and therefore likely depressed prices, they¡¯d be a great deal if you are content with a basic EV car charger (EVSE) with no remotely adjustable settings, no load sharing capability, possibly no customer service, and unknown warranty service, given Enel X has not yet announced who will be taking over their legal obligations in North America.
It all depends on what your needs are. ?Most people don¡¯t use the app at all and many EVSEs are no longer supported (offer replacement parts) by the manufacturer after the 3 year warranty expires (Siemens!), so a basic unit that will likely last that long without the need for repair at a reduced price for lack of app control might be perfect.?
Lawrence?
? Hi Lawrence,
A lot of this technical information is over my head (I taught English and am not very tech savvy)
Bottom line ¡ª Are you saying you do not recommend purchasing JuiceBox Home EVSEs now and in the future?
Thanks, Sybil
? All,
Last night at 11pm I received the following link via an EV email list:
I found a few other articles on the topic and read all the comments.?
The short story is that the Enel X Way app that can control your JuiceBox or Enel X electric vehicle charger is being discontinued on October 11th.?
My suggestion is that, through the app, you check that your EVSE is online and set to the maximum amperage your circuit can handle and that scheduled charging is turned off.? Avoid toggling any settings that don¡¯t require it, as customer support may not be available if there¡¯²õ a problem.? Then unpair the charger.? An extra precaution would be to cancel your account.?
On 2018 and 2019 JuiceBox EVSEs, there¡¯²õ a trim pot (variable resistor) on the circuit board to hardware limit the amperage. Setting the app to the maximum and using the trimpot preserves your options. ?Opening the cover of a unit that has been outdoors may take several applications of penetrating oil and light tapping with a hammer over the course of as many days, as it did for me.?
I also encourage you to take your EVSE off your WiFi network to further reduce exposure to its settings being adjusted by nefarious actors at some point in the future. ?If you can¡¯t do this by cycling the EVSE¡¯²õ power and logging into its own WiFi network, you can put it on your WiFi router¡¯²õ blocked list.?
JuiceBox was a seemingly solid local company in San Carlos, but then were bought up by the Italian Enel X.? Even recently I was impressed by their very responsive and diligent customer service, easily reached by phone and email.? Now Enel X is consolidating their operations to countries where they also sell electricity; the USA and Canada are not amongst them.?
The worst of it is that all of their commercial and public chargers will become unusable overnight, as they require continual connection to the Enel X server.?
Good luck in weathering the transition and please spread the word so others aren¡¯t left with an unusable home EV charger.
Thanks.?
Lawrence?
Reference links regarding Enel X shutting down in USA and Canada:?
Email address for company sanctioned information:
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David Herron
App replacement: