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Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
I'm not sure how to do it, Patrick.? As I just posted, I'm on a Windows platform typing now but Direwolf's on Linux.? I've tried to look it up but can't figure out whether it's the cp command and, if so, how do I capture the file so I can post here.? Any tips would be appreciated.
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Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Please post your direwolf.conf file so we can look at it. Patrick (N3TSZ)
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 03:51:53 PM EDT, Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Here you go, John, but I'm still unsure how to provide #6 (direwolf.conf contents) i.e., moving a captured config file's contents to my Windows environment so I can append here. (1) Libre Le Potato (2) Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye (I thought it was just Raspbian Bullseye) (3) (4) and (5) ? (7) and (8) |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Here you go, John, but I'm still unsure how to provide #6 (direwolf.conf contents) i.e., moving a captured config file's contents to my Windows environment so I can append here.
(1) Libre Le Potato (2) Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye (I thought it was just Raspbian Bullseye) (3) (4) and (5) ? (7) and (8) |
Re: RPi Direwolf packet station.
Though we are constrained by small mobile/portable radio screens (i.e., Kenwood TH-D72).
:-) Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of WB2OSZ <wb2osz@...> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 2:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [direwolf] RPi Direwolf packet station. I don't see any reason not to use longer packets. We are not constrained by 80 column dumb terminals anymore. |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
It shouldn't be this difficult.
Let's go back to the beginning, and study this in an organized way. (1) What is the computer type?? Raspberry Pi? (2) what is the OS version??? Type "cat /etc/os-release" (3) Type "cm108" to get information about USB audio adapters. (4) Is the USB audio adapter plugged directly into the computer or is a USB hub involved? (5) Provide another screen shot of alsamixer with the current settings. (6) provide the contents of your direwolf.conf file. (7) Run direwolf with "-a 10" on the command line. (8) Wait at least 30 seconds then send a copy of everything that appeared on the screen. 73, John WB2OSZ |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSaying it works on your Windows laptop means _nothing_ when you're asking why it doesn't work on a Raspberry Pi. You need to test it on the complete hardware and O/S you intend to use.
Might be a driver issue, might be a default volume setting, might be a device naming issue, but testing on the wrong operating system and computer won't tell you anything.
Also, Raspberry Pi's are notorious for RFI sensitivity (not much in the way of shielding and filtering), so that might be an issue as well.
Andrew, KA2DDO
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 1:29:40 AM Thanks, Andrew.? We can look at that if you think'll help.? Is it possible to do on my Windows laptop vs. Libre/Raspberry Pi as I have no idea how to configure the latter. This does seem to beg the question, though, which I say with great humility since I know the least of anyone on this forum....but, is audio input really the most likely suspect as I've used that same radio, audio cable and sound card on my laptop flawlessly running APRSISCE/32 & UZ7HO in an iGate configuration?? I've shown the audio is getting to the USB sound card....made the alsamixer changes (which, other than a too-high Mic Capture setting, pretty much matched).? If it was an audio issue, I could understand not seeing some packets, but 100% of them?? That's why I wonder if there's anyway it can be a programming issue.? I realize that the Direwolf program has been used by many hams--it's pretty close to plug & play--but is there any chance I fat fingered something?? (Or, flat didn't follow directions?)? Are there likely lines of code that would rule in or out why I'm having this problem? _._,_._,_
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Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
So, at this point I would say we have narrowed this down to 1 of 2 things, and pretty much got it pointing to only one. 1. Sound card - less likely as you appear to be TX'ing okay ??? Assume you are not directly sending to the internet with Direwolf or some other method . ??? Although you keep referring the Windows setup as APRSISce/32 & UZ7HO in an IGATE configuration. ?????? This could mean APRSISce/32 is receiving the packet from UZ7HO 'internally' and sending the packet to APRS-IS. ?????? The actual radio part may not involved - BUT we will assume it is. ??? If (in Direwolf) you have IGLOGIN set, that could be sending your information directly to APRS-IS and it will show on aprs.fi 2. RX Audio levels - most likely ??? Curious if Direwolf decoded anything when you got the "too-high Mic Capture" message? ??? If it did (does), then that confirms this thought. ??? Using Audacity could show the audio levels as well - which will help, so worth the effort ??????? sudo apt install audacity ??? Later you can remove it with ??????? sudo apt autoremove audacity ??? But you will probably find it useful. I'll repeat the key question: ?? Curious if Direwolf decoded anything when you got the "too-high Mic Capture" message? Robert Giuliano
On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 01:29:36 AM EDT, Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Thanks, Andrew.? We can look at that if you think'll help.? Is it possible to do on my Windows laptop vs. Libre/Raspberry Pi as I have no idea how to configure the latter. This does seem to beg the question, though, which I say with great humility since I know the least of anyone on this forum....but, is audio input really the most likely suspect as I've used that same radio, audio cable and sound card on my laptop flawlessly running APRSISCE/32 & UZ7HO in an iGate configuration?? I've shown the audio is getting to the USB sound card....made the alsamixer changes (which, other than a too-high Mic Capture setting, pretty much matched).? If it was an audio issue, I could understand not seeing some packets, but 100% of them?? That's why I wonder if there's anyway it can be a programming issue.? I realize that the Direwolf program has been used by many hams--it's pretty close to plug & play--but is there any chance I fat fingered something?? (Or, flat didn't follow directions?)? Are there likely lines of code that would rule in or out why I'm having this problem? |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Thanks, Andrew.? We can look at that if you think'll help.? Is it possible to do on my Windows laptop vs. Libre/Raspberry Pi as I have no idea how to configure the latter.
This does seem to beg the question, though, which I say with great humility since I know the least of anyone on this forum....but, is audio input really the most likely suspect as I've used that same radio, audio cable and sound card on my laptop flawlessly running APRSISCE/32 & UZ7HO in an iGate configuration?? I've shown the audio is getting to the USB sound card....made the alsamixer changes (which, other than a too-high Mic Capture setting, pretty much matched).? If it was an audio issue, I could understand not seeing some packets, but 100% of them?? That's why I wonder if there's anyway it can be a programming issue.? I realize that the Direwolf program has been used by many hams--it's pretty close to plug & play--but is there any chance I fat fingered something?? (Or, flat didn't follow directions?)? Are there likely lines of code that would rule in or out why I'm having this problem? |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
It sounds like your receive audio isn't getting into DireWolf. It doesnt matter if the radio can hear the signals if our sound card can't. And those cheap radios use really non-standard wiring on the speaker-mic jacks; sleeve of the tip-ring-sleeve plug is rarely ground.
I recommend you install the program "audacity" on your computer, and run it instead of DireWolf on your sound card interface to verify you actually are getting audio into the computer. Audacity is a digital sound mixer and processor for musicians, so it will display and play back exactly what it gets from the sound card's input. Configure audacity to listen to your sound card and click the red Record button. You will see a real-time plot of the recorded sound signal. Tell us what audio you see on the computer instead of coming out the Anytone's speaker. Hope this helps. Andrew, KA2DDO both kinds of ham (radio and thespian) ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 10:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [direwolf] Digipeater build.... not hearing packets Moved everything outside to the garage where I can use my j-pole. Some progress but still stuck. I now show up on the internet and am now able to beacon out which I can see on aprs.fi. No receipts of packets nor digipeating. Not showing up on APRSC website. Have the alsamixer settings as recommended. Squelch = 1. AT878 is seeing everything but it's not gettting translated to Direwolf. |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Moved everything outside to the garage where I can use my j-pole.? Some progress but still stuck.? I now show up on the internet and am now able to beacon out which I can see on aprs.fi.? No receipts of packets nor digipeating.? Not showing up on APRSC website.
Have the alsamixer settings as recommended.? Squelch = 1.? AT878 is seeing everything but it's not gettting translated to Direwolf. |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Quick update.? Libre booted and got to home directory.? PHEW? Folks, don't be like me and try to test something in a noisy crowded kitchen while your family waits for you to make a dinner reservation; Our Lady of Victory will not look favorably upon you.
Because of weather, I can't test outside for awhile.? I'm not seeing packets on my AT878 with 15" whip inside, but that's not unusual.? As usual, I'm on the internet (i.e., my station shows on aprs.fi) but no received traffic.? I have best luck when I'm outside, preferably attached to an elevated 2m j-pole. Jeff, I used F5 and my settings match yours exactly now. Michael, I followed your recommendations (squelch = 0; 15 sec Direwolf audio updates).? I, momentarily, could see W7SEA-15 at .? (It's gone now for some reason after I went back to alsamixer to check something.)? Is this what is updated every 15 secs?? (i.e., Not seeing any change to my home screen.)? Where do I see the "audio input volume" and how to adjust??? |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
I suggest looking at the devices separately in alsamixer. First you want to ensure you are looking at the correct device Press <F6> and select your sound card ?? Press <F4> to make any changes to the "Capture" (decode) settings ?? Press <F3> to make any changes to the "Playback" (TX) settings ????? NOTE:? there "often" is a Mic option in the "Playback" settings. ?????????????????? that is why I recommend looking at the devices separately. You can use <F5> to view all settings, but (at least to me), that can get too busy and confusing. Robert Giuliano
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 08:15:58 AM EDT, Jeff KP3FT via groups.io <kp3ft@...> wrote:
Hopefully you can get the system working again without too much trouble.? When you do, make sure to hit the F5 key after running alsamixer in a terminal.? That will show all the sliders.? It should show a "Capture" slider.? That's the one that controls the audio level input from the radio.
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Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Hopefully you can get the system working again without too much trouble.? When you do, make sure to hit the F5 key after running alsamixer in a terminal.? That will show all the sliders.? It should show a "Capture" slider.? That's the one that controls the audio level input from the radio.
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Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
I would remove all USB devices, make sure the SD card (or whatever the device boots from) is properly connected, and try booting without any "extras".? If that doesn't boot, then you will probably need to re-install the OS, or maybe the connection for your boot device was damaged - hope that ISN'T it! Robert Giuliano
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 12:31:54 AM EDT, Jon W7SEA <jonw7sea@...> wrote:
Here's an update....and a new problem (self-caused). On the alsamixer front, my screen for the sound card looks different in that I have three bars (speaker, mic, AGC) not four.? I found that speaker was set at 33, Mic was muted as was AGC.? I unmuted Mic and tried at 29 (IIRC) and wasn't seeming to get anything on aprs.fi, but, also, I was precariously set up on a kitchen table with the Anytone a fair distance from a window.? It also wasn't seeing packets, so I went to move the radio, tripped on the bird nest of cords I stupidly had laid out, and Libre, keyboard, radio....everything went crashing to the floor.? I was in a bit of a shock and finally unconnected things as it was a mess.? Now, my new problem is that my Libre won't boot normally.? I'm in a loop that I can't get out of.? This script starts then the screen goes blank and it starts over again (picture below just before screen goes blank and starts over again). So, in my effort to cross things off the list, I'm adding things.? Yep, frustrated.? Any & all thoughts are appreciated. |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
Here's an update....and a new problem (self-caused).
On the alsamixer front, my screen for the sound card looks different in that I have three bars (speaker, mic, AGC) not four.? I found that speaker was set at 33, Mic was muted as was AGC.? I unmuted Mic and tried at 29 (IIRC) and wasn't seeming to get anything on aprs.fi, but, also, I was precariously set up on a kitchen table with the Anytone a fair distance from a window.? It also wasn't seeing packets, so I went to move the radio, tripped on the bird nest of cords I stupidly had laid out, and Libre, keyboard, radio....everything went crashing to the floor.? I was in a bit of a shock and finally unconnected things as it was a mess.? Now, my new problem is that my Libre won't boot normally.? I'm in a loop that I can't get out of.? This script starts then the screen goes blank and it starts over again (picture below just before screen goes blank and starts over again). So, in my effort to cross things off the list, I'm adding things.? Yep, frustrated.? Any & all thoughts are appreciated. |
Re: Digipeater build.... not hearing packets
I'd try the following:
* Open the squelch all the way so you're not missing the first bits of each frame. * Run direwolf with "-a 15" to get audio statistics every 15 seconds.? Adjust the audio input volume until the level is reported around 50. ? --Michael? WZ0C |
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