Re: APRS.fi - igate v digipeater
"igate" has a fluid definition.? It generally means an aprs radio
that sends information to the internet (APRSIS).? It
may or may-not also be a digipeater/transmitter.
The icons are entirely up to you.? A receive-only igate is commonly
a <R>? black diamond.? A transmitting digipeater
with no internet connection is commonly the green star.?? I also see
a transmitting igate+digipeater as a? black <T>
diamond.
Personally, I use the green star for digipeaters which also happen
to be igates:
We can have another thread on the suggested use of the overlay
symbol as well.
cool,
-craig
KM6LYW
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I have a purely RF based digipeater (MM0NBW-1) temporarily setup
and working fine as a precursor to setting up a permanent station
but I see on the aprs.fi site that the station is identified as an
igate -?? whereas I see other digipeater stations identified as
digipeater - note I haven't found one yet also using direwolf.
I can't see anything in direwolf config that would influence
this.? I'm using the D overlay in the beacon. So is this something
hard coded where aprs.fi will interpret any direwolf station as
igate?? Or have I missed something?
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APRS.fi - igate v digipeater
I have a purely RF based digipeater (MM0NBW-1) temporarily setup and working fine as a precursor to setting up a permanent station but I see on the aprs.fi site that the station is identified as an igate -?? whereas I see other digipeater stations identified as digipeater - note I haven't found one yet also using direwolf.
I can't see anything in direwolf config that would influence this.? I'm using the D overlay in the beacon. So is this something hard coded where aprs.fi will interpret any direwolf station as igate?? Or have I missed something?
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Re: Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window
Thanks Andrew!
Appreciate the feedback.
73s
Martin
m0hkg
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Re: Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window
Brilliant! Thank you!
RTFM, maybe one day I'll get it :-/
73s
Martin
m0hkg
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Re: Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window
And after that, the APRS Protocol Specification, , would be another place. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of WB2OSZ <wb2osz@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2022 1:05 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [direwolf] Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window The Dire Wolf User Guide, chapter 7, would be a good place to start.
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Re: Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window
The Dire Wolf User Guide, chapter 7, would be a good place to start.
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Reading and Understanding Direwolf Terminal Window
I'm sure this has been asked before, but I'm struggling to find the right terminology to be able to return the search results I need.
I've had a bit of a nightmare getting Direwolf working on a RPi connected to a GM350 - the issue was the radio is only a four channel unit and therefore the flat RX/TX signals weren't presented on the 16-pin connector at the rear. That was then, and they are now, after a bit of reworking of the radio...
What I'd like to find is an article/guide that would help me decode and better understand what Direwolf is telling me in the terminal screen whilst it's running - this stuff:
[ig>tx] MB7USB>APMI06,TCPIP*,qAC,T2SYDNEY:@171526z5108.42N/00054.32E-WX3in1Plus2.0 U=12.6Colins APRS StationDigipeater WIDE1 (probably MB7UH) audio level = 19(6/7)? ?[NONE]? ?||||_____[0.1] MB7UVC>FC1XW3,G4MRS-2,MB7UH,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`w6*l 2#/`"3x}MB7UVC Digipeater_%<0x0d>MIC-E, DIGI (white center), Yaesu FTM-400DR, Custom-1N 52 18.7300, E 001 26.1400, 0 MPH, course 22, alt 20 ftMB7UVC DigipeaterDigipeater WIDE2 (probably MB7UH) audio level = 35(5/7)? ?[NONE]? ?|||||____[0.2] ON0ANT-10>APMI06,ON0ABT,G4MRS-2,MB7UH,WIDE2*:@171526z5113.03N/00425.17E-WX3in1Plus2.0 U=12.2V,T=??.?C/??.?FPosition with time, House, SQ3PLX http://microsat.com.pl/N 51 13.0300, E 004 25.1700WX3in1Plus2.0 U=12.2V,T=??.?C/??.?F[0H] MB7UVC>FC1XW3,G4MRS-2,MB7UH,WIDE1,MB7UBW*:`w6*l 2#/`"3x}MB7UVC Digipeater_%<0x0d>Digipeater WIDE1 (probably MB7UH) audio level = 36(6/7)? ?[NONE]? ?||||:____[0.2] M7CBX-9>APAT81,MB7UH,WIDE1*,WIDE2-2:!5158.91N/00059.95E[236/041/A=000298M7CBXPosition, Human, for Anytone. 81 for 878 HTN 51 58.9100, E 000 59.9500, 47 MPH, course 236, alt 298 ftM7CBX[0H] M7CBX-9>APAT81,MB7UH,WIDE1,MB7UBW*,WIDE2-1:!5158.91N/00059.95E[236/041/A=000298M7CBXDigipeater WIDE1 (probably MB7UH) audio level = 44(6/7)? ?[NONE]? ?||||:____[0.2] M7CBX-9>APAT81,MB7UH,WIDE1*,WIDE2-2:!5158.71N/00059.46E[197/043/A=000301M7CBXPosition, Human, for Anytone. 81 for 878 HTN 51 58.7100, E 000 59.4600, 49 MPH, course 197, alt 301 ftM7CBX[0H] M7CBX-9>APAT81,MB7UH,WIDE1,MB7UBW*,WIDE2-1:!5158.71N/00059.46E[197/043/A=000301M7CBX
Is there documentation anyone can point me to?
Thanks and 73s
Martin
m0hkg
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OK, makes sense.
Well all my questions have been answered and I believe my node is properly configured now and the other guy is fixing his node, so thank you everyone so very much! You are all GREATLY appreciated!
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Re: APRS Messages on packet
My setup works for APRS and also works for Winlink packet (change frequency on the radio of course) without any changes to the .conf file. All I wanted to do was suppress the error reporting about the motorcycle symbol when it hears a Winlink packet beacon.
It works for both so the interface and radio aren't important but since you asked it's a plain USB soundcard and a FTDI USB serial port on the Pi to a Kenwood TM-V71A (set to Echolink Sysop mode).
Thanks for the clarification about the Digipi. :)
Danny
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 12:32:39 PM
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DigiPi is not a HAT, it is a Raspberry Pi image. Don¡¯t be mis-led by the comments about Fe-Pi (HAT) or any other audio HAT. It allows a user to pick the data mode they want to use and t loads the proper .conf for the job.. At one point, you might chose Winlink, and the next change to JS8CALL and then after that back to APRS. If you have a USB capable radio (IC-705) then it is practically automatic. The IC-705 stuff was developed early. ? The way DigiPi works is, it copies a configuration for the mode you want to use into the Direwolf directory. There is no switching in a Direwolf.conf. Of course you could write a script to do the same. In my test set up, I have direwolf.node.conf, direwolf.winlink.conf, direwolf.tnc.conf, direwolf.digi.conf. I have never seem a way for Direwolf to know what the user is up too. ? DigiPi can use the Fe-Pi (which is a HAT), but, It can also use a DigiRig (radio interface ¨C not a HAT). The DigiRig is easy to work with. It at least does audio/CAT or audio/PTT. ? Best regards, Fred N7FMH ? ? I'm running a Pi 400 which isn't compatible with a pi hat. Trying with -t 1 -qd arguments....
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 6:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS Messages on packet
http://craiger.org/digipi/ ?
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Re: APRS Messages on packet
What radio and interface are you using? ? Fred N7FMH ?
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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 1:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS Messages on packet? DigiPi is not a HAT, it is a Raspberry Pi image. Don¡¯t be mis-led by the comments about Fe-Pi (HAT) or any other audio HAT. It allows a user to pick the data mode they want to use and t loads the proper .conf for the job.. At one point, you might chose Winlink, and the next change to JS8CALL and then after that back to APRS. If you have a USB capable radio (IC-705) then it is practically automatic. The IC-705 stuff was developed early. ? The way DigiPi works is, it copies a configuration for the mode you want to use into the Direwolf directory. There is no switching in a Direwolf.conf. Of course you could write a script to do the same. In my test set up, I have direwolf.node.conf, direwolf.winlink.conf, direwolf.tnc.conf, direwolf.digi.conf. I have never seem a way for Direwolf to know what the user is up too. ? DigiPi can use the Fe-Pi (which is a HAT), but, It can also use a DigiRig (radio interface ¨C not a HAT). The DigiRig is easy to work with. It at least does audio/CAT or audio/PTT. ? Best regards, Fred N7FMH ? ? I'm running a Pi 400 which isn't compatible with a pi hat. Trying with -t 1 -qd arguments....
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 6:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS Messages on packet
http://craiger.org/digipi/ ?
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Re: APRS Messages on packet
DigiPi is not a HAT, it is a Raspberry Pi image. Don¡¯t be mis-led by the comments about Fe-Pi (HAT) or any other audio HAT. It allows a user to pick the data mode they want to use and t loads the proper .conf for the job.. At one point, you might chose Winlink, and the next change to JS8CALL and then after that back to APRS. If you have a USB capable radio (IC-705) then it is practically automatic. The IC-705 stuff was developed early. ? The way DigiPi works is, it copies a configuration for the mode you want to use into the Direwolf directory. There is no switching in a Direwolf.conf. Of course you could write a script to do the same. In my test set up, I have direwolf.node.conf, direwolf.winlink.conf, direwolf.tnc.conf, direwolf.digi.conf. I have never seem a way for Direwolf to know what the user is up too. ? DigiPi can use the Fe-Pi (which is a HAT), but, It can also use a DigiRig (radio interface ¨C not a HAT). The DigiRig is easy to work with. It at least does audio/CAT or audio/PTT. ? Best regards, Fred N7FMH ?
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Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS Messages on packet? I'm running a Pi 400 which isn't compatible with a pi hat. Trying with -t 1 -qd arguments....
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
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Re: APRS Messages on packet
Thanks Fred,
I'm running a Pi 400 which isn't compatible with a pi hat.
Trying with -t 1 -qd arguments....
From: "Fred Hillhouse" <fmhillhouse@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2022 6:42:08 AM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS Messages on packet
http://craiger.org/digipi/
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http://craiger.org/digipi/
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I think you need a different direwolf.conf. In the DigiPi image, you make a use choice and the proper conf is loaded.
73 N7FMH?
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Re: APRS Messages on packet
Hi Danny,
That looks like a pretty standard packet beacon. Note that it's not in the APRS position beacon format. You'll see those on non-APRS packet frequencies as well to announce the station is there.?
The direwolf log message about attempts to decode APRS packet format can be turned off with the -qd argument to direwolf.
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HI, I've been using YAAC with direwolf on a Pi400 for APRS and decided to try using the same radio and the direwolf instance to connect to a Winlink packet gateway. It works as expected but I'm seeing an APRS related message in the direwold console that I would like to suppress.
K5PRK-10 audio level = 29(15/8)? ?[NONE]? ?_||||||||
[0.4] K5PRK-10>BEACON:Winlink 2000 RMS Packet Server<0x0d>
Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator "W", motorcycle
Is there something I need to change in the direwolf.conf to tell it we're not in APRS mode any more?
TIA
Danny
K5CG?
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HI, I've been using YAAC with direwolf on a Pi400 for APRS and decided to try using the same radio and the direwolf instance to connect to a Winlink packet gateway. It works as expected but I'm seeing an APRS related message in the direwold console that I would like to suppress.
K5PRK-10 audio level = 29(15/8)? ?[NONE]? ?_||||||||
[0.4] K5PRK-10>BEACON:Winlink 2000 RMS Packet Server<0x0d>
Unknown APRS Data Type Indicator "W", motorcycle
Is there something I need to change in the direwolf.conf to tell it we're not in APRS mode any more?
TIA
Danny
K5CG?
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Don't forget about all the corrections, enhancements, and addendums on . For example, the original specification doesn't even deal with the New-N paradigm for digipeating. Hopefully, the effort to create a non-profit foundation to carry on Bob's vision will be able to release the consolidated APRS 1.2 specification (with all mandatory versus optional parts clearly identified). Andrew, KA2DDO ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Michael Wright <mfwright@...> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 4:41 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [direwolf] APRS specification thanks for reminder of this document (wow, 22 years old). I find it amusing it was called this because it is Bob APR's system or APRS for short. Then they had to come up with something for what it stands for. Which is fine because once this system starts it automatically reports positions. And it is now 30 years old, Bob sure knew how to develop a system of long endurance. RIP Bob Mike K6MFW On Fri, 13 May 2022 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC), "Patrick Connor via groups.io" <n3tsz@...> wrote: I refer to this document often when I am building or troubleshooting an APRS system. Patrick (N3TSZ)
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thanks for reminder of this document (wow, 22 years old).
I find it amusing it was called this because it is Bob APR's system or APRS for short. Then they had to come up with something for what it stands for. Which is fine because once this system starts it automatically reports positions.
And it is now 30 years old, Bob sure knew how to develop a system of long endurance. RIP Bob
Mike K6MFW
On Fri, 13 May 2022 20:13:16 +0000 (UTC), "Patrick Connor via groups.io" <n3tsz@...> wrote:
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I refer to this document often when I am building or troubleshooting an APRS system.
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Patrick (N3TSZ)
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Same thing thanks.? Best Regards.? Armando Rodriguez
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On May 13, 2022, at 3:28 PM, J K via groups.io <kuhnje@...> wrote: ? Nice! ?Also saved it as well. I refer to this document often when I am building or troubleshooting an APRS system.
Patrick (N3TSZ)
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