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Re: Repeating "GPSD: Location fix is now 2D/3D"


 



On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 3:56 PM David Ranch <direwolf-groupsio@...> wrote:

?There is arguably NOTHING in amateur radio that needs this level of precision other than maybe than bragging rights

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I completely disagree, there are all sorts of things that need that precision in ham radio, Voting and simulcast to name a couple.?


--David
KI6ZHD



On 10/06/2021 02:37 PM, Rob Giuliano via wrote:
A lot of conversation about the PPS.
I am pretty sure ths conversation was about getting position infomration through gpsd, not time (beyond the data stamp).
I have no idea how a Garmin GLO2 could implement a PPS - its Bluetooth.

Is this just additional commentary for tose using gpsd for more than position?
? I don't see anything on PPS in the Direwolf manual.
? I am not sure how Direwolf benefits from a PPS?

Not trying to be critical, just checking if I missed something.

Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO


On Wednesday, October 6, 2021, 12:33:07 PM EDT, Fred Hillhouse <fmhillhouse@...> wrote:


Hi Ray,

Thanks for the link. I think my networked GPS (u-blox) has 1PPS. I haven't really checked it out. The Garmin GLO2 doesn¡¯t have the capabilities. At least, that is what I gather from ppscheck. This project doesn't need it and hopefully the JS8CALL project doesn't either.

Fred N7FMH

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Wells
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2021 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [direwolf] Repeating "GPSD: Location fix is now 2D/3D"

Fred,

I know you've done the hard yards and it's working for you but you may
still find this page about gpsd interesting.


FWIW I ran into the same 2D/3D problem as you but I can't remember which
(RS232) GPS (Garmin 18 series or older Ublox) I used at the time. I
ended up compiling GPSD from sources to get an updated version. But this
was near enough to two years ago.

Ray vk2tv

On 2/10/21 9:18 am, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the update and how strange if this was a gpsd thing.? What
> version were you running before?
>
> Version 3.17
>
> Gary¡¯s comment: Wow, that is 4 years old.? You need to update that.
> 3.23.1 is current.
>
> I am not sure but came from the apt repository. I didn¡¯t install gpsd
> initially on this RPI. I wouldn¡¯t have done a build from source.
>
> Do you know what was the specific fix in the newer GPSD that resolved
> your problem?
>
> Sorry I don¡¯t.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Fred N7FMH
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
>
> On 10/01/2021 02:30 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:
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>? ? Problem has been resolved. I now get a solid 3D fix.
>
>? ? The solution: update to the latest revision of GPSD. Revision 3.23.1
>
>? ? As background, I have a Garmin GLO 2 which will support up to four
>? ? users. A similar unit is the Dual XGPS160. I have used it in the
>? ? past for an Android tablet with the hopes of also sharing with an
>? ? RPi. Currently, The tablet, RPI and my PC are receiving data.
>
>? ? I was asked why I would use a GPS like this. When running multiple
>? ? RPIs, which may not have sky view, a GPS with a view can share
>? ? with each.
>
>? ? Best regards,
>
>? ? Fred N7FMH
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>? ? [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf
>? ? Of *Fred Hillhouse
>? ? *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 5:06 PM
>? ? *Subject:* Re: [direwolf] Repeating "GPSD: Location fix is now 2D/3D"
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>? ? GPS has been running for at least a day.
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>? ? Define "GPS has been running for at least a day".? By default,
>? ? your GPS puck won't be activated by gpsd and start listening for
>? ? GPS details until it has a listening client like direwolf, cgps,
>? ? gpsmon, etc.? This seems to be a default for minimizing power
>? ? consumption.? The gpsmon tool doens't show how long it's been
>? ? running with a 3D fix but cgps does.
>
>? ? The GPS has had a device connected to a device. It supports 4
>? ? different devices. One device is the same RPi Direwolf is running
>? ? on but is an terminal window on my PC with /cgps /running. Now a
>? ? second device (PC/u-center) is connected.
>
>? ? What constitutes a ¡°very good¡± lock?
>
>
>? ? That's evidently a huge topic in itself and is well outside the
>? ? scope of this Direwolf.? I did a search for "gpsd 3d lock" and
>? ? this hit seems like a good start:
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>? ?
>? ? <>
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>? ? A key point in that article is that though your system lists it's
>? ? using X satellites, it doesn't mean it's hearing them well.? This
>? ? can be due to local RF interference, etc.
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>? ? I can see I have a 3D position all the time now that my Windows PC
>? ? is connected. I am aware of the FIX differences and how everything
>? ? can affect the satellite signal; trees buildings, angle of
>? ? antenna, etc. Not being snarky! If this was a serial GPS or a
>? ? USB-GPS (serial?) there would be no BT layer and for serial, using
>? ? /dev/ttyS0 would be correct and USB would be similar. Based on an
>? ? exchange with Robert KB8RCO it seems this maybe the case here. If
>? ? may be that each of the four possibilities need /dev/ttys0-3? In
>? ? the end, I will have learned a little more.
>
>? ? This is what I get when running /gpsmon/. Any clues there?
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>
>? ? More information is available in cgps but there are other tools
>? ? available to troubleshoot GPS issues such as gpsprof but I've
>? ? never used them.? Ultimately, I don't think your issue is with
>? ? Direwolf.. it's going to be somewhere in the GPS into GPSD area.
>? ? I would start here:
>? ? <>
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>? ? I will certainly check this group. From my PC experience on
>? ? needing to actually connect to a COM port, I wonder if a RPi
>? ? ¡°comport¡± must be connected as well. Robert, KB8RCO, suggested
>? ? something regarding auto-connecting at reboot but I haven¡¯t chased
>? ? that since the basic connection is not functional yet.
>
>? ? Thank you!
>
>? ? Fred N7FMH
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>? ? Screenshots from the u-blox u-center app:
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