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Should I use for my Clausing X, Y and Z? Or should I just hacktogether some other odd motors? I do have some Gear Reduced Brusless DC motors top speed 18 rpm, also I do have one Brushless DC GR motor that came off a garage door opener I can't remeber the RPM.

Any ways are designed for a Bridgeport Mill so I would have to make some modifications, not sure why they would not work for Y and Z but are listed as for X.

I hope this post is within the scope of the forum.

Ralph?
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


 

Hi Ralph.
I am unfamiliar with the Clausing mill.
Any chance of a few photos.?.
Can you remind us all the of your final game plan, thinking it is it to provide power feed to the 3 axis.
I cannot picture in my head how you would attach "these motor" assemblies? to the Y and Z axis, originally designed for the X axis.
For much less than 1/2 this total outlay,and with good CNC capabilities I suggest Nema 23 motors and DDCS V3.1 4 axis CNC control box with MPG
"manual pulse generator".- This I think would give you 90% of all the milling work you need to do? be it manual or CNC.


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John


Richard
 

Those are for the X axis feed on a mill. IMHO far too big for the
Clausing 8520.
What do you want them for? You said X Y Z which indicates CNC. If so
these are totally wrong, as are the geared motors you discussed.
Richard

On 21/08/2019 19:58, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
Should I use these type of motors
<>
for my Clausing X, Y and Z? Or should I just hacktogether some other
odd motors? I do have some Gear Reduced Brusless DC motors top speed
18 rpm, also I do have one Brushless DC GR motor that came off a
garage door opener I can't remeber the RPM.

Any ways these motors
<>
are designed for a Bridgeport Mill so I would have to make some
modifications, not sure why they would not work for Y and Z but are
listed as for X.

I hope this post is within the scope of the forum.

Ralph
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill
press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D
printer


 

Thanks that is why I asked! I do not want to turn dials. I do not need CNC, well at this point I do not need CNC.

I just want motorized X, Y and Z.

The

I have outfitted DRO on all of the axis? and installed a .

Ralph

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:00 PM Richard <edelec@...> wrote:
Those are for the X axis feed on a mill. IMHO far too big for the
Clausing 8520.
What do you want them for? You said X Y Z which indicates CNC. If so
these are totally wrong, as are the geared motors you discussed.
Richard

On 21/08/2019 19:58, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
> Should I use these type of motors
> <>
> for my Clausing X, Y and Z? Or should I just hacktogether some other
> odd motors? I do have some Gear Reduced Brusless DC motors top speed
> 18 rpm, also I do have one Brushless DC GR motor that came off a
> garage door opener I can't remeber the RPM.
>
> Any ways these motors
> <>
> are designed for a Bridgeport Mill so I would have to make some
> modifications, not sure why they would not work for Y and Z but are
> listed as for X.
>
> I hope this post is within the scope of the forum.
>
> Ralph
> --
> Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill
> press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D
> printer
>





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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


 

I have seen some people used electric drills, so I am confused on how big of a motor is needed.

It would not take a big motor to move the table, except for Z that might take a bigger motor.

But it would take more power when making a cut.?

I suppose I will just have to try various motors to see what works, I'll integrate a amp meter into the controls
to make comparisons.?

Now I Just need some snow on the ground so that I can get into my shop.

Thanks again everyone.

Ralph
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:36 PM Ralph Hulslander via Groups.Io <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks that is why I asked! I do not want to turn dials. I do not need CNC, well at this point I do not need CNC.

I just want motorized X, Y and Z.

The

I have outfitted DRO on all of the axis? and installed a .

Ralph

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:00 PM Richard <edelec@...> wrote:
Those are for the X axis feed on a mill. IMHO far too big for the
Clausing 8520.
What do you want them for? You said X Y Z which indicates CNC. If so
these are totally wrong, as are the geared motors you discussed.
Richard

On 21/08/2019 19:58, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
> Should I use these type of motors
> <>
> for my Clausing X, Y and Z? Or should I just hacktogether some other
> odd motors? I do have some Gear Reduced Brusless DC motors top speed
> 18 rpm, also I do have one Brushless DC GR motor that came off a
> garage door opener I can't remeber the RPM.
>
> Any ways these motors
> <>
> are designed for a Bridgeport Mill so I would have to make some
> modifications, not sure why they would not work for Y and Z but are
> listed as for X.
>
> I hope this post is within the scope of the forum.
>
> Ralph
> --
> Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill
> press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D
> printer
>





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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer


 

I used DC gear motors for power feeds on a few of my machines, including a worm drive car windshield wiper motor for the X axis on my Atlas mill, which is maybe half or two-thirds the size of your Clausing. I think you saw it on homemadetools.net. I don¡¯t know the specs of the motor - I use it all the time, but it¡¯s not really strong enough for roughing cuts.
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Mounting it was at least as much work as it was the Z axis stepper for my ¡°Russian ELS¡± and maybe twice as much when you include the simple clutch. It would be unusable without that.


How much drag do unpowered steppers add to feed screws when you use them manually?


On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:20 AM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
I have seen some people used electric drills, so I am confused on how big of a motor is needed.
?
It would not take a big motor to move the table, except for Z that might take a bigger motor.
?
But it would take more power when making a cut.?
?
I suppose I will just have to try various motors to see what works, I'll integrate a amp meter into the controls
to make comparisons.?
?
Now I Just need some snow on the ground so that I can get into my shop.
?
Thanks again everyone.
?
Ralph
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:36 PM Ralph Hulslander via Groups.Io <rhulslander=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks that is why I asked! I do not want to turn dials. I do not need CNC, well at this point I do not need CNC.
?
I just want motorized X, Y and Z.
?
The
?
I have outfitted DRO on all of the axis? and installed a .
?
Ralph

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:00 PM Richard <edelec@...> wrote:
Those are for the X axis feed on a mill. IMHO far too big for the
Clausing 8520.
What do you want them for? You said X Y Z which indicates CNC. If so
these are totally wrong, as are the geared motors you discussed.
Richard

On 21/08/2019 19:58, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
> Should I use these type of motors
> <>
> for my Clausing X, Y and Z? Or should I just hacktogether some other
> odd motors? I do have some Gear Reduced Brusless DC motors top speed
> 18 rpm, also I do have one Brushless DC GR motor that came off a
> garage door opener I can't remeber the RPM.
>
> Any ways these motors
> <>
> are designed for a Bridgeport Mill so I would have to make some
> modifications, not sure why they would not work for Y and Z but are
> listed as for X.
>
> I hope this post is within the scope of the forum.
>
> Ralph
> --
> Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill
> press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D
> printer
>





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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer

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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer