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Re: MAPPING SOFTWARE/STATIC MAPS

 

Interesting you should bring this up this morning. I started the Map Download Utility about an hour ago, entered the lat long info, set it to a 10.6 mile diameter, hit start and it's sat at "Downloading (0%)" ever since. So...questions:

1. I assume this is downloading over the internet connection - and not waiting for me to start D-Rats and connect to something else.

2. I note that for lat/long you must enter the degrees followed by a space (it inserts the degree symbol), then enter minutes followed by a space (it inserts the ' symbol), and finally seconds followed by a space and enter the " symbol. Could this NOT be downloading because of an unreported error in the way I've entered the lat/long information?

3. Should I have expectations for download times longer than the last hour or so sitting at 0%?

Thanks!
Bob
KK4LAC


Re: Excessive QSTs

 

On 3/29/2015 7:10 AM, n3tsz@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
I have a noticed an increase in the amount of un-necessary QSTs on
the Public Ratflector.
<snip>
Guilty, Your honor.
If you need to keep your internet connection alive, simply send a
location
report every ten minutes. It will not print any text in the chat window.
I need to figure out how to do that. The QST workaround was suggested to me by Dan Smith, but it was mainly to verify what the issue was.

As I had left the QSTs on before with no one mentioning that they were excessive or disrupted, I did not realize the impact.

I was not aware that the location report could be used as an alternative. I do not know if the ISP kill timer will allow 10 minutes of idle. I will have to test that out.

Regards,
-John


Re: Is AMBE chip needed for D-RATS?

 

Hello John,

You're correct in that the DVSI AMBE chip is only needed for the Vocoder section but it wouldn't surprise me if many implementations EXPECT to see the AMBE chip there even if it's not being used. The DIY market for Dstar is very robust and with various GMSK modem boards out there now (even all SW versions too). I don't see why this wouldn't work but you might need to work with the GMSK modem vendor to get the SW to work properly.

--David
KI6ZHD


Excessive QSTs

 

I have a noticed an increase in the amount of un-necessary QSTs on the Public Ratflector. It has come to the point where it is difficult to have a conversation with someone without being interrupted by unattended stations sending bulletins that have no value. I have resorted to filtering them out in order to keep my screen clear. If you need to keep your internet connection alive, simply send a location report every ten minutes. It will not print any text in the chat window. Please keep all other QSTs to a minimum (I don't need to know the temperature at your location). If your station is unattended, please set your status to Unattended using the selection box in the lower-right corner below the Stations list.


Thank you in advance,

de Patrick (N3TSZ)


Re: Is AMBE chip needed for D-RATS?

 

You are correct on all counts.
A 9600 bps TNC in KISS mode will do exactly that.
D-RATS supports KISS mode TNCs.
Software is available to use a soundcard as a 9600 bps TNC.


Is AMBE chip needed for D-RATS?

 

From what I can see, the AMBE chip is only needed for Digital Voice mode.

If that is really the case, it should be possible to build a D-RATs/Digital mode adapter for existing FM gear usign a GMSK modem.

I have not found any information on the Wild Wild Web for such a project though.

Any one know of any?

Regards,
-John


Re: MAPPING SOFTWARE/STATIC MAPS

 

Richard,

Tnx for the information.? That sounds great!?

73
Glen
KB1DNI


Re: MAPPING SOFTWARE/STATIC MAPS

 

I believe D-RATS has an excellent built in mapping capability that is specifically designed to be used without a network connection.? There is a utility program, d-rats_mapdownloader.exe, located in the same directory as the executable for D-RATS itself, that will download map tiles for a selected geographic area.? Once downloaded D-RATS will use the cached tiles.? I am not a real wizard at all this, but did manage to download maps for the local area here and create overlays for points of interest such as trailheads.? The maps are basic street maps, not topographic maps.? Perhaps a real expert could tell us how to get topo maps loaded.

73,? Richard Browning? AD5RB


MAPPING SOFTWARE/STATIC MAPS

 

Hello:


I wondered what software or static maps people are using for when WiFi is not available. ?I am aware that with Google maps you can download a map of the area you are in assuming there is cell coverage/availability or wifi. ?But in an emergency that won't be likely.


Has anyone found a mapping software that will work with D-RATS? ?It would be nice to utilize this for both the ID-51A & ID-5100A radios.


Thank you for your assistance.

73

Glen

KB1DNI


Re: D-RATS Download

 

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Unfortunately, no at this time.? The author got the program fully functional and his interests have moved on.? Fortunately, the program is very useful in it’s current state and is used by many EmComm groups.

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I anyone knows a good Python programmer that would be interested in taking over development, we would all benefit from further enhancing D-RATS.

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John WB4QDX

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From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...]
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 10:47 AM
To: d-rats_group@...
Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Download

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Are they still doing development of D-Rats?? It's seem like there hasn't been any updates for a long time.


Re: D-RATS Download

 

Are they still doing development of D-Rats?? It's seem like there hasn't been any updates for a long time.


D-Rats ID-51A and RT Systems Cable

 

For anyone else out there pulling their hair out trying to make D-Rats key the transmitter, I have (finally) had some success with this hardware: ID-51A (original flavor), RTS-05 cable (orange), Windows 8.1 netbook, latest build of D-Rats.

?As otherwise noted, you have to carefully shut off all the GPS stuff on the radio. Apparently, GPS data and other data are trying to use the same limited slot in DV mode. There are charts on where to shut off GPS (at least 3 settings need to be "off"). Also I saw a note that "power save" has to be "off". Mine was "Auto-short". I turned it off and it works---but not 100% sure this was really necessary.

Now for the new part----using the HT and the RT systems cable, I was very frustrated that the radio seemed to transmit once (when D-Rats connected), then never again. Eventually, I found that for some reason the Comm port was being disconnected on the netbook.?I tried a few different scenarios (different computer, different cable, etc.) and always the same thing using the ID-51. Until I decided to reduce the transmit power on the radio. Only on Mid or High power on the ID-51 did it continue to disconnect the comm port. Lower power worked fine.

What I believe is happening is the HT, using the rubber duck, is pump RF into the RT Systems cable and causing the comm port to shut down (I could unplug and re-plug the cable and it would work again---for one transmission). I am going to put a couple ferrite beads on the RT Systems cable and report back how that works (if it actually does anything positive). Moving the radio or antenna away from the computer seems to help. Reducing the transmit power definitely helps.

I notice the $70 dollar iCom cable has 2 ferrite beads included. I suspect iCom may have seen the same thing.

Just some info if anyone like me was trying to make a "go-kit" with the HT and a netbook or laptop and D-Rats.

73, KC3BLF


Re: D-RATS Download

 

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You can download it from the authors website:

Mike, N0SO

On Mar 14, 2015, at 5:07 PM, w8nsi@... [d-rats_group] <d-rats_group@...> wrote:

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I am trying to download the program from the files section? on here and have been unsuccessful. I thought maybe it was a computer trouble of some sort so I changed computers and found that it does not download to any of them. Is there another source to grab a copy of the program?


73 de w8nsi/nnn0uzw jim


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Re: D-RATS Download

 

Yahoo! seems to be having an issue with file downloads.
Try this link instead -?

Good luck!
Patrick (N3TSZ)
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D-RATS Download

 

I am trying to download the program <d-rats-daily-02232012-installer.exe> from the files section? on here and have been unsuccessful. I thought maybe it was a computer trouble of some sort so I changed computers and found that it does not download to any of them. Is there another source to grab a copy of the program?


73 de w8nsi/nnn0uzw jim


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Re: Forms display (print) not formatted properly in IE.

 

I have the same issue. No resolution yet.


Forms display (print) not formatted properly in IE.

 

Quick stupid question.

Trying to print a received 213 form.? Formats and looks ok in Firefox but not in IE.? Am I missing something simple (other than the fact IE might just suck)?

Wayne
VE3THN



Re: Yum repository available?

 

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I don't have one specific for CentOS, but you're welcome to use my Fedora rpm:

I think it should work.

Mike, N0SO

On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:44 PM, John Davis wb4qdx@... [d-rats_group] <d-rats_group@...> wrote:

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Has the yum repository for D-RATS gone away? I need to install it on CentOS.

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John WB4QDX


Re: Fusion radios

 

Hi Dave,
Thanks for that info. I also know a few folks in my club that have fusion radios, so I will be hitting them up for some knowledge. Maybe I will get a chance to experiment with one of theirs'.
Thanks,
Patrick (N3TSZ)


From: "David Ranch dstar@... [d-rats_group]"
To: d-rats_group@...
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Fusion radios

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Hello Patrick,

I think it was me saying "it should work" but that's not really useful is it??

Anyway, I DID try sending data to my FT1D via the included SCU-19 cable but it didn't do anything.? When I did change the 9APRS -> 17COMPORT to either "GPS" or "WAYPOINT", I would see on the computer the expected GPS NEMA strings or APRS Posits/Objects/etc strings.? Beyond that, I never found any other YSF specific radio settings for data transport.? Thinking it could be a cable thing:

? - The manual talks to upgrading the FT1DR via the SCU-18 cable.? I was successful in upgrading it with the SCU-19 as well so I think these two parts are equivalent
? - Looking at their description of the other data cable "CT-170", that one seems to be the same serial data as seen via the SCU-19 cable but just not translated into USB
? - The only other mention in the manual for "data communications" is when the camera mic is used.? That's controlled under 11Option ->USB camera

If the camera mic does something unique here to put the radio into DW (Data WIDE) mode, it's not mentioned in the manual.? I also don't find any language in the manual that's similar to Dstar's "Data TX --> Auto" and what not and there isn't any information in the Yaesu System Fusion standards doc either.? It seems to me that we need to reverse engineer what the camera mic does first to see if that's USB or RS232 data and what actually happens to understand more.


Ps.? Does anyone know what is the technical name of this 11-pin connector that the FT1D is using?? I hope it's not 100% proprietary.

--David
KI6ZHD




Re: Fusion radios

 

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Hello Patrick,

I think it was me saying "it should work" but that's not really useful is it??

Anyway, I DID try sending data to my FT1D via the included SCU-19 cable but it didn't do anything.? When I did change the 9APRS -> 17COMPORT to either "GPS" or "WAYPOINT", I would see on the computer the expected GPS NEMA strings or APRS Posits/Objects/etc strings.? Beyond that, I never found any other YSF specific radio settings for data transport.? Thinking it could be a cable thing:

? - The manual talks to upgrading the FT1DR via the SCU-18 cable.? I was successful in upgrading it with the SCU-19 as well so I think these two parts are equivalent
? - Looking at their description of the other data cable "CT-170", that one seems to be the same serial data as seen via the SCU-19 cable but just not translated into USB
? - The only other mention in the manual for "data communications" is when the camera mic is used.? That's controlled under 11Option ->USB camera

If the camera mic does something unique here to put the radio into DW (Data WIDE) mode, it's not mentioned in the manual.? I also don't find any language in the manual that's similar to Dstar's "Data TX --> Auto" and what not and there isn't any information in the Yaesu System Fusion standards doc either.? It seems to me that we need to reverse engineer what the camera mic does first to see if that's USB or RS232 data and what actually happens to understand more.


Ps.? Does anyone know what is the technical name of this 11-pin connector that the FT1D is using?? I hope it's not 100% proprietary.

--David
KI6ZHD