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Re: D-Rats for Windows 10 Download.

 

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Hi Steve,

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You tried this one?

/g/d-rats/files/D-RATS%20Program%20Files/D-Rats-0.3.9_WindowsXP.zip

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This works for me on both Windows 10 and 11.

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Jack – KD4IZ

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of KC9SIO
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 13:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] D-Rats for Windows 10 Download.

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[Edited Message Follows]

Can someone please direct to the download for D-Rats for Windows 10. I see other downloads, but none of them have worked. I keep getting the "D-Rats Has Encountered an Error" message when I try to run it, even when Running as Administrator. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

Re: D-Rats for Windows 10 Download.

 

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On Sep 18, 2023, at 1:45?PM, KC9SIO <kc9sio@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Can someone please direct to the download for D-Rats for Windows 10. I see other downloads, but none of them have worked. I keep getting the "D-Rats Has Encountered an Error" message when I try to run it, even when Running as Administrator. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

D-Rats for Windows 10 Download.

 
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Can someone please direct to the download for D-Rats for Windows 10. I see other downloads, but none of them have worked. I keep getting the "D-Rats Has Encountered an Error" message when I try to run it, even when Running as Administrator. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Members of my club have successfully used D-RATS with Direwolf, UH7ZO's Soundmodem and various hardware TNCs.

Patrick (N3TSZ)


On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:26:48 AM EDT, Steve Stroh <steve.stroh@...> wrote:


Edfel:

Apologies if this is already known and understood, but D-RATS was originally created solely to take advantage of the (slow - 900 bps) data stream built into every D-Star radio (and passthrough every D-Star repeater). Other Amateur Radio data software wasn’t designed to take advantage of “just a data stream” with no modem required and no built-in protocol; D-Star data was just data in on the transmitting D-Star radio, and data out on any D-Star radio that was receiving that transmission. The original author of D-RATS did a brilliant job making use of D-Star data when nothing else really did so.

If you want to use data capabilities via radio other than the built-in D-Star data, then there are many more suitable modes such as packet radio, modems, software, etc.

Just a few examples are the Dire Wolf software TNC, VARA FM (up to 25 kbps), the NinoTNC (hardware TNC) that can do 9600 bps with Forward Error Correction, Winlink software for EMCOM, XASTIR for APRS, etc.

Steve Stroh N8GNJ

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Editor
Zero Retries Newsletter -?


On Sep 15, 2023 at 23:30:15, Edfel Rivera <edfeljose@...> wrote:

Hi:
Just to be sure. I have set the 9700 and seems to be working.? As D-Rats states there is no longer a need for a D-Star radio, the question is which other 2M 70cm supports (or can be used) with D-Rats for packet communication? SO I can coordinate with a fellow Ham at my county and test maybe 145.670. The idea is not to depend on D-Star repeaters although anyway here there are nada D-Star repeaters.??

One of D-Rats KEY, and somehow rare, advantages is Interoperability (possibility of EMCOMM traffic via both RF + Network).??

Thanks again!!

Edfel
KP4AJ

D_Rats Repeater

 

Morning/ Afternoon,

I am bring all my stuff back online. I ran in to this issue when I added my bpq d-rats reflector and my xlxd reflector.

riggs498@hpbedroom:~/D-Rats$ ./d-rats_repeater.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
? File "./d-rats_repeater.py", line 1095, in button_on
??? self.save_config(self.config)
? File "./d-rats_repeater.py", line 665, in save_config
??? self.sync_config()
? File "./d-rats_repeater.py", line 1071, in sync_config
??? self.config.set("settings", "devices", devices)
? File "/usr/lib/python3.8/configparser.py", line 1200, in set
??? self._validate_value_types(option=option, value=value)
? File "/usr/lib/python3.8/configparser.py", line 1185, in _validate_value_types
??? raise TypeError("option values must be strings")
TypeError: option values must be strings


If I don't try and add any setting it works.
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Edfel:

Apologies if this is already known and understood, but D-RATS was originally created solely to take advantage of the (slow - 900 bps) data stream built into every D-Star radio (and passthrough every D-Star repeater). Other Amateur Radio data software wasn’t designed to take advantage of “just a data stream” with no modem required and no built-in protocol; D-Star data was just data in on the transmitting D-Star radio, and data out on any D-Star radio that was receiving that transmission. The original author of D-RATS did a brilliant job making use of D-Star data when nothing else really did so.

If you want to use data capabilities via radio other than the built-in D-Star data, then there are many more suitable modes such as packet radio, modems, software, etc.

Just a few examples are the Dire Wolf software TNC, VARA FM (up to 25 kbps), the NinoTNC (hardware TNC) that can do 9600 bps with Forward Error Correction, Winlink software for EMCOM, XASTIR for APRS, etc.

Steve Stroh N8GNJ

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Steve Stroh N8GNJ (he / him / his)
Editor
Zero Retries Newsletter -?


On Sep 15, 2023 at 23:30:15, Edfel Rivera <edfeljose@...> wrote:

Hi:
Just to be sure. I have set the 9700 and seems to be working.? As D-Rats states there is no longer a need for a D-Star radio, the question is which other 2M 70cm supports (or can be used) with D-Rats for packet communication? SO I can coordinate with a fellow Ham at my county and test maybe 145.670. The idea is not to depend on D-Star repeaters although anyway here there are nada D-Star repeaters.??

One of D-Rats KEY, and somehow rare, advantages is Interoperability (possibility of EMCOMM traffic via both RF + Network).??

Thanks again!!

Edfel
KP4AJ

Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

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You'll get far better performance and reliability using a soft-TNC like the following compared to any hardware-based TNC solution:

?? Direwolf -
?? UZ7HO Soundmodem -

--David
KI6ZHD


On 09/16/2023 02:00 PM, Edfel Rivera wrote:

HI:
Please? note the AIOC seems to don't have the TNC integrated!!???Not sure if it still should work with D-Rats, se back to step 1...From GitHub....

Future Work

  • Overmolded enclosure design (DIY using 3D-Printed mold and Resin/Hotglue)
  • Maybe integrate a TNC Modem with KISS interface? (I am not sure if that is worth the effort)
Sorry guys!

73'

Edfel
KP4AJ

Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

HI:
Please? note the AIOC seems to don't have the TNC integrated!!???Not sure if it still should work with D-Rats, se back to step 1...From GitHub....

Future Work

  • Overmolded enclosure design (DIY using 3D-Printed mold and Resin/Hotglue)
  • Maybe integrate a TNC Modem with KISS interface? (I am not sure if that is worth the effort)
Sorry guys!

73'

Edfel
KP4AJ
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 
Edited

Hi:
Found also this which seems more affordable and fit for Handys.???
Deleted the link as I am not sure it will work with D-Rats....

Opinions?

73'

Edfel
KP4AJ
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Hi:
Well wonder if this could make it happen:???I have and old SignaLink also but not think have the cable and mod for my Kenwood TM-v71. Probably best and simplest way to test is with a Baofend.? ?Hope the hardware that work with WinLink / VARA combo also will work with D-Rats via RF.? Will take sometime until I report back but guess that is the way to do.

73'

Edfel
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Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Hi Maurizio:
Thank you very much!? ?There are many D-Star capable radios out there but if D--Rats supports also other brands through TNC / modem it increase D-Rats possibilities!? It could be very useful if someone can test and document such connectivity via RF.? ?I supposed if there is a pdf document describing someone should have tested, I hope.?


73''

Edfel
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Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 


Hi Edfel

I personally never used d-rats with radios without d-star support.

Anyhow D-Rats was added with kiss support in the past:


Not sure if anybody had a chance to?test it with recent versions.

would be interesting to have more info and report on experiences on?this.

thanks
maurizio

Il giorno sab 16 set 2023 alle ore 08:32 Edfel Rivera <edfeljose@...> ha scritto:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi:
Just to be sure. I have set the 9700 and seems to be working.? As D-Rats states there is no longer a need for a D-Star radio, the question is which other 2M 70cm radios supports (or can be used) with D-Rats for packet communication??So I might coordinate with a fellow Hams at my county and test maybe in simplex 145.610, 145.670. The idea is not to depend on D-Star repeaters although anyway here there are nada D-Star repeaters.??

One of D-Rats KEY, and somehow rare, advantages is Interoperability (possibility of EMCOMM traffic via both RF + Network).??

Thanks again!!

Edfel
KP4AJ

Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 
Edited

Hi:
Just to be sure. I have set the 9700 and seems to be working.? As D-Rats states there is no longer a need for a D-Star radio, the question is which other 2M 70cm radios supports (or can be used) with D-Rats for packet communication??So I might coordinate with a fellow Hams at my county and test maybe in simplex 145.610, 145.670. The idea is not to depend on D-Star repeaters although anyway here there are nada D-Star repeaters.??

One of D-Rats KEY, and somehow rare, advantages is Interoperability (possibility of EMCOMM traffic via both RF + Network).??

Thanks again!!

Edfel
KP4AJ
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Hi AL:
I have a IC9700, but I guess is the same. I have to setup low speed.??

73'

Edfel
KP4AJ
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Edfel, one thing to watch out for when using RF, ID 5100's send Hi speed data, ID 880, ID 2820, ID 51 all use low speed, make certain to reset the 5100 to low speed if you are trying to send to one of these. MENU>DV SET>DV FAST DATA >FAST DATA>OFF.
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AL M
KF5SMH
GitHub - Latest code, fixes and enhancements!

 

Hi:
I strongly recommend you follow D-Rats GitHub!? If you can learn how to clone the repository and use in your platform, you will be using latest code with many fixes and enhancements.? ?Also you can browse Issues to follow progress and areas of improvement. Very pleased the repeater subsystem getting enhancements. Very positive about what next releases will bring into D-Rats!

Keep the excellent job!!??

73
Edfel
KP4AJ
Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Hi Jack:

Thank you very much!? For EMCOMM, D-Rats RF capabilities and performance are key.? ?Hope to be able to test that soon.

73'

Edfell
KP4AJ
Re: IC-9700 won't transmit in D-Rats

 

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Edfel,

I use the default 9600 baud for D-Rats. There are 4 digital simplex frequencies that are listed for D-Star. 145.600, 145.670. 441.000 and 445.670. You can use any simplex frequency that is designated for digital use as far as I know ( I don't know what the rules are in Puerto Rico ). Also, you may use any D-Star repeater for data. BTW, you can do voice and data at the same time, we have tested it and it works!

73, Doug

On 9/12/2023 20:16, Edfel Rivera wrote:

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Hi Doug:
Which baud rate you use for the 9700 setup?? with D-Rats? Also which frequencies are allowed for D-Rats data 2m 70cm???

Thanks in advance!

Edfel
KP4AJ 
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Asst District Emergency Coordinator
Yavapai County Arizona
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Re: D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

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Hi Edfel,

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I have a “partial” answer for you. I don’t think there is an “easy” way to use the IC-900.

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D-RATS uses the D-Star data modes (among others). If you have any of the D-Star radios (plus a D-Star repeater) around, then there is a “slow” data channel along with the voice channel it is quite slow, but works for Chat. The 1.2GHz radio can be all digital and has reasonably fast speed – don’t remember exactly (maybe 4.8kbps in DV, ?128 kbps in DD mode???). DD mode is 1.2GHz only, available with the IC-9700 and the old ID-1 +/- the DD module for the 1.2GHz repeaters.

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We have used a local D-Star repeater (W3DHS) for ACS/ARES/RACES exercises. You can use D-STAR simplex as well. There are suggested DV simplex frequencies for 144 and 440 MHz – check the dstarinfo.com website.

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I use 9600bd for the connection to both the IC-9700 and the IC-705. I configure to the appropriate COM port. It works for me. I usually use the internet mode so the radios do not stay on.

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Jack Spitznagel – KD4IZ

Science River LLC

Biomedical Consulting Services

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Edfel Rivera
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 07:30
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

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Hi:
Looking for feedback about D-Rats RF capabilities, usage.? So far have been testing the repeater - client from network connections. Planning to move now into the serial (RF) setup.? My radio is a ICOM IC900 Have several questions:

1- Which freqs are used for D-Rats ia RF?
2- Which speed can be expected and how such speed compares with Packet, VARA FM.??
3-? It is possible to run D-Rats via HF or low bands?

Sorry if any of those questions are basic or simple.

73

Edfel
KP4AJ

D-Rats via RF - Experience - Capabilities - Usage

 

Hi:
Looking for feedback about D-Rats RF capabilities, usage.? So far have been testing the repeater - client from network connections. Planning to move now into the serial (RF) setup.? My radio is a ICOM IC900 Have several questions:

1- Which freqs are used for D-Rats ia RF?
2- Which speed can be expected and how such speed compares with Packet, VARA FM.??
3-? It is possible to run D-Rats via HF or low bands?

Sorry if any of those questions are basic or simple.

73

Edfel
KP4AJ
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