David,
What portions do you consider abuse?? Is it the posting of tropical storm advisories, local weather reports, information on which ratflectors can be used for mail drops and files with instructions on D-Rats functions or something else?? There are so many new users we are trying to help and educate, but we can cut back on some stuff if a particular item annoys people.? D-Rats options are limited to a maximum of 60 minutes between QST posts, and unfortunately, the program tries to synchronize the times together so they all want to dump at one time.
If the QSTs are what is driving you nuts, you can Add a Filter with [QST] as the filter target.? All of the QSTs will then display only on that tab and not in the Main Chat window.? The other issue is that some ratflectors and station operators do things on multiple ports.? The QST function gives the option of displaying to the current port or all of the ports, but does not give a choice to leave certain ports out.? Adding a feature like that might be labor intensive for folks that are trying to do this as a free service.? Right now, in particular, some of us are trying out multiple items to determine if everything in the beta release is working properly.? This may also be adding to the annoyance as we play with some of the new toys.
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Another problem I have noticed with the National Weather Service RSS feeds is that they used to be obtainable as straight text.? But a few years ago the NWS changed things around and the section labeled as (TEXT ONLY) actually delivers a product in HTML format.? Since D-Rats does not work with HTML files, these RSS feeds no longer work.? My workaround is to obtain the text only by copying and pasting from either the RSS site or through my NWSchat feed from our local weather service office.? I save it to a simple .TXT file on my desktop and have a QST set up to display the contents of that file every 60 minutes.? I go back and change the text as the new advisories come out or just discontinue the QST when the information is no longer relevant.? If you notice, the emails will not display HTML either.
If you are a SKYWARN group member or with Emergency Management in some capacity, you may have access to NWSchat in your area.? Access is granted to specific individuals through the local weather service offices.? Be careful if you get this.? Certain products displayed on NWSchat are not for public release and you could lose your access if you redistribute it.? Other items, such as the public advisory releases, are free to distribute.? You can always go to the NWS RSS Feed site at??to obtain the information on the latest advisories and storm bulletins for your given area.
Cordially,
Glen Strecker - KG5CEN
St. Tammany Parish ARES Asst. Emergency Coordinator
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Re: D-RATS have stations display under the appropiate filter
The mismatch is usually caused by the station or ratflector monitoring two or more ports at the same time.? Originally, it was thought that a station would only want to be on one port at a time, but we found that multiple ports were possible.? This allowed a station to monitor the main RAT ratflector and one or more others.? We just had to watch to see which port the other station was transmitting on and jump to that port to answer.? During actual operations, this might not be a good idea but could be a necessity for a station acting as a liaison station between groups working two or more different ratflectors or ports during an incident. One drawback is in the posting of QSTs.? The choices are between posting to the CURRENT port or to ALL PORTS the station is monitoring.? You cannot specify sending to a group of particular ports and not to others.? For example, I am presently posting to ALL PORTS Tropical Weather Advisories from the National Weather Service to ALL PORTS.? Many of the stations on RAT, SEWX, and StTammany might be interested in getting prepared for a possible tropical storm or hurricane getting ready to form in the Gulf of Mexico.? The PDRA ratflector group in Pennsylvania maybe not so much.? I don't have a choice of cutting out the PDRA port unless I quit monitoring it completely.? I am not complaining here.? I am ecstatic about the phenomenal progress we are making in having a software package hams are getting FOR FREE to use in EmComm work.
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Re: D-RATS have stations display under the appropiate filter
Hi Ron I add this to the list of possible future enhancements. ? ? ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of WB3ILX
Sent: lunedì 1 giugno 2020 01:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] D-RATS have stations display under the appropiate filter ? The work being done on drats is great!? If possible I would like to see call signs displayed according to the filter created for each ratflector.? So if I have three ratflectors and a filter for each only those stations that are logged in on each ratflector will display under that filter selection.? Also a major bug for years has been that a station will log on a particular ratflector but they will show up under a different ratflector.? These are just suggestions if you tackle them I certainly applaude the team working on updating the drats program.? I know the amateur radio community appreciates the work being done.? Thank you for under taking this up dating project and I know it is a tremendous task.? Thanks again for everyone's work to update and improve the drats program.
Ron West / WB3ILX
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Some of the EMCOMM group have upgraded and are quite pleased with the new version.
AL?
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Thanks Al, and yes it was Cortana.? BTW, I really like the new D-RATS.? Are you using it for your ARES Group in Farmington?
Don
Don, I think the reference was to Cortana in WINDOWS.
AL M
KF5SMH
-- 73 de N4VIP, Don - SFARES Inc. Treasurer and Secretary
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Don, I think the reference was to Cortana in WINDOWS.
AL M
KF5SMH
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Where is the Cordana Search Bar?? Which program?
Don Hinsman
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Hi Al,
Detailed instructions for the weather QST are here:
In preferences, the OpenWeather uri is left alone as default.
The "bare" api key you received from OpenWeatherMap is placed in Preferences->Chat->OpenWeather appid
Save the preferences.
Next, create the QST as described in the GitHub wiki link above.
Place the location below where it says "Enter the Open Weather station name" and select "Current" next to it.
For your location, based on QRZ.com, the location should be "Aztec,NM,US" minus the quotes.
I could not get the imperial units to work in d-rats, only directly on the openweathermap website. However d-rats converts the temperature as part of the QST response. There are conversion factors and conversion tables in the GitHub wiki mentioned above.
Check out some of the other wiki items too.
I hope this helps.
73, Greg AB8RG
-- 73 de N4VIP, Don - SFARES Inc. Treasurer and Secretary
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Thank you for your efforts! :-)
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D-RATS have stations display under the appropiate filter
The work being done on drats is great!? If possible I would like to see call signs displayed according to the filter created for each ratflector.? So if I have three ratflectors and a filter for each only those stations that are logged in on each ratflector will display under that filter selection.? Also a major bug for years has been that a station will log on a particular ratflector but they will show up under a different ratflector.? These are just suggestions if you tackle them I certainly applaude the team working on updating the drats program.? I know the amateur radio community appreciates the work being done.? Thank you for under taking this up dating project and I know it is a tremendous task.? Thanks again for everyone's work to update and improve the drats program.
Ron West / WB3ILX
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I would like to second Al's point on the QST stuff.?
It's being abused on some of the Ratflectors I'm connected to.?
--David
KI6ZHD
On 05/31/2020 11:25 AM, Al Massaro
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I would like to say that the new D-RATS is a fine
piece of work, my hat is off to all!!! I would be honored to buy
each of you an adult beverage at some point.
Just as a curiosity I have always wondered about 2 things:
1) Why the posted message must start on the same line as the
senders information, could it be made to drop down 1 line?
? ? ? ? ?i.e.??[2020-05-31 12:00:57] KF5SMH: [QST]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Current weather at Aztec - US lat: 36.82 Lon:
-107.99?
2) Could QST information be directed to post to a dedicated [QST]
channel, rather than taking up space on the active chat channel???
? ? ?It works that way for receivers but not for the sender. Maybe
add one more option; current, all, QST? As I say this it sounds
maybe too difficult.?
I am not trying to make more work, just have always thought these
2 things could work.
Thanks again! (Bella Grazie!)? for all the hard work.
AL M
KF5SMH?
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1) Currently: [2020-05-31 16:23:31] [TRESRIOS] KF5SMH: Mary had a little lamb MY THOUGHT:
[16:25:31] [TRESRIOS] KF5SMH:?
Mary had a little lamb
2) When QSTs are Tx they go on the senders open tab, however if the receiver has a tab named [QST] they receive it on that tab. 3)? 
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Hi N1RCW I add an issue to the tracker to investigate on the RSS text limit and if possible to extend it as well as to see is there anyway to allow a timed beacon of same rather than a change in status of the alert. ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of N1RCW
Sent: sabato 30 maggio 2020 14:37
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] RSS NWS Alert Feeds ? Great work on updating D-rat’s ! Been testing v3.9 both Linux and Windows. It is awesome to see the the increase in users and activity.. I monitor a lot of weather information for our local Amateur radio community and have interest in providing alerts and current conditions. Many thanks for those that put in the time to get the current weather beacons available again. I have used the RSS QST options before utilizing the NWS RSS/CAP events . Is there anyway to increase the size of the RSS QST to handle the larger amount of Characters from the alert and is there anyway to allow a timed beacon of same rather than a change in status of the alert. Just adding a little to the pile! Thanks again for all that this group has done to keep D-rat’s in the front lines! 73’s Rick,N1RCW?
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Hi Al. ? 1), yes it could be easily modified. Some other users suggested to have the entire msg on a single line.? On this I am quite agnostic, I would prefer to not modify just to follow personal preferences, but I am keen to modify if there is a good use case to be enabled (e.g. moving it in a different format to make it compatible with some other use/device etc). ? 2) this behaviour of showin the message in one tab and not in others is something I noted but I didn’t pay much time to it. I can add this idea to the list of the program issues, but le me first ask some more info: ? @all users sending around QSTs: when your qsts are sent, do they go into the qst tab or into the qst tab? ? +3) when you say “Maybe add one more option; current, all, QST? “ what do you mean? Can you elaborate a bit the scenario? ? 73 de maurizio iz2lxi ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Al Massaro
Sent: domenica 31 maggio 2020 20:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] Great job!! ? I would like to say that the new D-RATS is a fine piece of work, my hat is off to all!!! I would be honored to buy each of you an adult beverage at some point.
Just as a curiosity I have always wondered about 2 things:
1) Why the posted message must start on the same line as the senders information, could it be made to drop down 1 line?
? ? ? ? ?i.e.??[2020-05-31 12:00:57] KF5SMH: [QST]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Current weather at Aztec - US lat: 36.82 Lon: -107.99?
2) Could QST information be directed to post to a dedicated [QST] channel, rather than taking up space on the active chat channel???
? ? ?It works that way for receivers but not for the sender. Maybe add one more option; current, all, QST? As I say this it sounds maybe too difficult.?
I am not trying to make more work, just have always thought these 2 things could work.
Thanks again! (Bella Grazie!)? for all the hard work.
AL M
KF5SMH?
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Re: new beta 20200529 - 0.3.9 - beta 3
Ah.,…. I forgot to delete the “original” ? it is pretty much the same file, the “original” is the one s before without d-rats2.ico properly fitted for windows 10 (I used the “resource hacker” program to fix it) – I don’t know why, but the py2exe compiler that I use to create the windows exe has sone issue in properly inserting the exe icon, so it doesn’t display on windows 10. ? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Glen Strecker
Sent: domenica 31 maggio 2020 18:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] new beta 20200529 - 0.3.9 - beta 3 ? Maurizio,
I noticed there are two .exe files, one saying d-rats.exe and another identified as d-rats_original.exe.? Is the second supposed to be there?? If so, what is its purpose?? Just curious.??
Glen - KG5CEN
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Re: Still no luck running D-RATS
George, make sure your desktop is not backing up to one drive. That was my problem. After I stopped the backing up Drats installed
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Hi George,
Can you report the filename of the version are you installing?
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Thanks
maurizio
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of George Zafiropoulos
Sent: sabato 30 maggio 2020 06:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: [d-rats] Still no luck running D-RATS
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Hi all,
Thanks for the suggestions but I still can't get D-RATS to run.
I get this error log ...
simplejson was not found. Geocoders relying on JSON parsing will not work.
FILE: C:\Users\georg\AppData\Roaming\D-RATS\d-rats.config
Creating downlaod directory: C:\Users\georg\Desktop\D-RATS Shared
Traceback (most recent call last):
? File "d-rats", line 118, in <module>
? File "d_rats\mainapp.pyo", line 946, in __init__
? File "d_rats\config.pyo", line 1742, in __init__
WindowsError: [Error 3] The system cannot find the path specified: 'C:\\Users\\georg\\Desktop\\D-RATS Shared'
Creating a file on the desktop called D-RATS Shared made no difference.
Any other ideas?
Thanks!
George
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I would like to say that the new D-RATS is a fine piece of work, my hat is off to all!!! I would be honored to buy each of you an adult beverage at some point.
Just as a curiosity I have always wondered about 2 things:
1) Why the posted message must start on the same line as the senders information, could it be made to drop down 1 line?
? ? ? ? ?i.e.??[2020-05-31 12:00:57] KF5SMH: [QST]
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Current weather at Aztec - US lat: 36.82 Lon: -107.99?
2) Could QST information be directed to post to a dedicated [QST] channel, rather than taking up space on the active chat channel???
? ? ?It works that way for receivers but not for the sender. Maybe add one more option; current, all, QST? As I say this it sounds maybe too difficult.?
I am not trying to make more work, just have always thought these 2 things could work.
Thanks again! (Bella Grazie!)? for all the hard work.
AL M
KF5SMH?
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Re: new beta 20200529 - 0.3.9 - beta 3
Maurizio,
I noticed there are two .exe files, one saying d-rats.exe and another identified as d-rats_original.exe.? Is the second supposed to be there?? If so, what is its purpose?? Just curious.??
Glen - KG5CEN
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Re: Problem installing d-rats
Create the folder it is complains about
on your desktop.
On 5/29/20 1:47 PM, George Zafiropoulos
wrote:
I want to run D-RATS on my win 10 laptop.? I downloaded the
version on the d-star web page and installed it.? The mapping and
repeater programs launch but when I try to run the main D-RATS
program it fails with this message...
What am I doing wrong?
George
--
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* Amateur Radio Station AC0HY *
* W. Paul Mills SN807 *
* Assistant EC Alpha-1 ARES Shawnee/Wabaunsee, KS *
* President Kaw Valley Amateur Radio Club *
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Re: Problem installing d-rats
Great to hear. Let me know if you are using openweather to broadcast weather data. Mine is not working after getting an API key.
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Thanks,
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Jim, NS3K
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From: George Zafiropoulos
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 4:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [d-rats] Problem installing d-rats
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I solved the problem.? Thanks for the suggestions.? I uninstalled OneDrive which I don't use and now D-RATS works.
Thanks,
George
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Glen Strecker
Al Massaro KF5SMH
