Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
Of course this is placing a bet on the
Linux side being compatible
with the OSX (Unix) side of the world. But what the hey, worth a
spin to see.
ron
On 9/15/14 8:55 PM, Scott Martin scott@... [d-rats_group]
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On 09/15/2014 10:25 PM, ron melanson
ron.melanson@...
[d-rats_group] wrote:
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> This should be in the directory /libexec/ but that is
missing in action.
Hey, Ron.
I would try and fetch the source, extract and move the
binary to the
proper location.
wget
&&
tar -zxvf d-rats-0.3.3.tar.gz &&
mv d-rats-0.3.3/libexec/lzhuf
/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/
In theory this is all one command you can run from the
terminal. You
might have permission issues with the last line and need
to do only that
one as root... I don't really know OSX.
Hope it helps.
Scott
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
Good suggestion.? Well worth a try.?
Thanks Scott.
On 9/15/14 8:55 PM, Scott Martin scott@... [d-rats_group]
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On 09/15/2014 10:25 PM, ron melanson
ron.melanson@...
[d-rats_group] wrote:
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> This should be in the directory /libexec/ but that is
missing in action.
Hey, Ron.
I would try and fetch the source, extract and move the
binary to the
proper location.
wget
&&
tar -zxvf d-rats-0.3.3.tar.gz &&
mv d-rats-0.3.3/libexec/lzhuf
/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/
In theory this is all one command you can run from the
terminal. You
might have permission issues with the last line and need
to do only that
one as root... I don't really know OSX.
Hope it helps.
Scott
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
On 09/15/2014 10:25 PM, ron melanson ron.melanson@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
This should be in the directory /libexec/ but that is missing in action.
Hey, Ron. I would try and fetch the source, extract and move the binary to the proper location. wget && tar -zxvf d-rats-0.3.3.tar.gz && mv d-rats-0.3.3/libexec/lzhuf /Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/ In theory this is all one command you can run from the terminal. You might have permission issues with the last line and need to do only that one as root... I don't really know OSX. Hope it helps. Scott
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
I think this is now a problem
understood but not solved :-(
Simply put, I am missing the essential "lzhuf" compression
algorithm to
support the Winlink B2F protocol () :-(??
This should be in the directory /libexec/ but that is missing in
action.
If there is anyone out there on OSX successfully sending email via
RF/packet
to Winlink you probabbly have /libexec files on your system.? I
would greatly
appreciate a copy of what you have in that directory, esp the
compression
algorithm lzhuf, but there may be more files of need :-\
If anyone out there has what I need, drilling that out of OSX is
not that simple :-(
You will need to launch "Terminal" cd to root then cd to the path
above.? Any
takers I would be delighted to walk you through this ;-)
73
ron
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/lzhuf'
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
Well I think your onto something Jim.
I did unhide hidden files and found a debug.log file. Of interest was the following error message.
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/lzhuf'
Indeed, the sub-director /libexec is missing and therefore so isn't lzhuf and anything else that was supposed to be in there.
So I should just give a re-install another try.? ALthough this has to be at least the 2'nd attempt and on two different Mac's.
ron
On Monday, September 15, 2014 11:15 AM, "'James R. Holtzman' emptech@... [d-rats_group]" wrote:
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Ron:
Hope I'm not deviating from the subject too much, I was asked by somebody
is there a way to save the d-rats settings, so
all of our users in our group have the same settings, we always get
somebody who has a problem and wants to fix it, you
have heard the term, if it's not broken, don't fix it, but people do
anyway, and we needed a fall-back backup.
Apparently, when the program installs, it doesn't install the same way
every time.? Mine didn't install with the correct or consistent
directory tree, then after removing everything, it finally did a clean
install.? What I was looking for was the configuration file,
some
say it is a hidden file in the user's hidden appdata directory, and
possibly other places.? There was also a non-hidden file in
their
program directory.
I just wanted to point out the in-consistencies in installations.?
Jim
At 10:38 AM 9/15/2014, you wrote:
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A clue!?
Hidden files OFF, found D-rats debug.log.? Extract from that log and
Call Trace Back shows an error of interest. Looks like I am missing
lzhuf? Or the directory structure for d-rats failed to build
properly.
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/lzhuf'
Any suggestions?
ron
James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
Ron:
Hope I'm not deviating from the subject too much, I was asked by somebody
is there a way to save the d-rats settings, so
all of our users in our group have the same settings, we always get
somebody who has a problem and wants to fix it, you
have heard the term, if it's not broken, don't fix it, but people do
anyway, and we needed a fall-back backup.
Apparently, when the program installs, it doesn't install the same way
every time.? Mine didn't install with the correct or consistent
directory tree, then after removing everything, it finally did a clean
install.? What I was looking for was the configuration file,
some
say it is a hidden file in the user's hidden appdata directory, and
possibly other places.? There was also a non-hidden file in
their
program directory.
I just wanted to point out the in-consistencies in installations.?
Jim
At 10:38 AM 9/15/2014, you wrote:
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A clue!?
Hidden files OFF, found D-rats debug.log.? Extract from that log and
Call Trace Back shows an error of interest. Looks like I am missing
lzhuf? Or the directory structure for d-rats failed to build
properly.
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/lzhuf'
Any suggestions?
ron
James R. Holtzman
Empirical Technology
Carmichael, CA? 95608
(916) 487-9712
emptech@...
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Re: Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
A clue!?
Hidden files OFF, found D-rats debug.log.? Extract from that log and
Call Trace Back shows an error of interest. Looks like I am missing
lzhuf? Or the directory structure for d-rats failed to build properly.
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/Applications/d-rats-daily-02232012.app/Contents/Resources/libexec/lzhuf'
Any suggestions?
ron
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Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet
Moving this topic over from the D-Rats Training thread... The gear I have: IC-880H, TNC-X, Mac Host, D-rats client. Brief re-statement of the problem, D-rats fails to Send email via WL2K using RF with TNC-X.? I have double checked everything: Active Winlink account, mail via internet through WL2K works fine, proper pre-fixes on To: and Subject: With the radio tuned to the closest Winlink station, I do decode their announcement "Winlink 2000 RMS Packet Station - Kensington, CA."? This confirms at least that the TNC can receive, decode, and pass the bytes up to D-Rats for display on the Chat window. When I compose an email, with the appropriate To:WL2K:email@" and Subject:"//Wl2K R/ foo", hit Send then again Send/Rec -- NOTHING happens.? I have also turned off my Tx Blocking, Squelch up -- still nada...? I think this is the crux of the problem -- no indication of a transmission of any kind.? I'm thinking that once I hit Send/Rec D-Rats should attempt a connection to the RMS station but there is zero indication it is even trying.? I do know the radio does transmit automatic GPS-A messages, I do know that I can transmit via chat on FM with the TNC.? D-rats just does not want to give the RMS station a try. I have the Radio setting as follows, the Driver as noted by D-rats looks odd to me. Radio: ? TNC ? AX.25 ON ? Port -> tnc-ax25:/dev/cu/usbserial-FTXXUK9J:0: 1200 ? Raw Text ON I tried 1200 both 9600 baud, I tried the cu. and tty. driver versions. What strikes me odd is the Port numbering at the end of the drive ...9J:0:, that :0: bothers me, although receive works hearing the RMS station.? Just looks funny.? I did see a posting where someone using a RPI had to delete an extra colon in on eof the D-RATS hidden config files. Any ideas?? If anyone out there has a MAC + TNC-X RF/WL2K working I'd love to know how you have that set up. 73 ron
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Did more testing..but before I get into that I will open up
a new topic on the subject as this one is about Training,
not debugging a D-rats problem.
Topic "Won't Send email to WL2K via RF Packet"
ron
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Ron ? I'm new to DRATS and have not got far enough to set up the VHF FM portion.? ? Rusty ?
To: d-rats_group@... CC: ron.melanson@... From: d-rats_group@... Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:25:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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Yes, correct!
ron
On 9/13/14 8:11 PM, Rusty Hemenway rusty.hemenway@...
[d-rats_group] wrote:
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I assume that because you have the TNC X
connected to the 880 that you are trying to connect to a
RMS Packet station?via VHF=FM.? Am I correct?
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To: d-rats_group@...
From: d-rats_group@...
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:41:06 -0700
Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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Ah!? OK, via Internet....Ya,
I got that working just fine.
My main objective is to get RF/Winlink email
working
when I am remote -- e.g. no cell coverage etc.?
Ya, I
should be doing this via HF, but that's next.? The
rig I
have that has the TNC-X connected to it is a ICOM
880H
2M/70CM.
ron
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Yes, correct!
ron
On 9/13/14 8:11 PM, Rusty Hemenway rusty.hemenway@...
[d-rats_group] wrote:
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I assume that because you have the TNC X
connected to the 880 that you are trying to connect to a
RMS Packet stationvia VHF=FM. Am I correct?
To: d-rats_group@...
From: d-rats_group@...
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:41:06 -0700
Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
Ah! OK, via Internet....Ya,
I got that working just fine.
My main objective is to get RF/Winlink email
working
when I am remote -- e.g. no cell coverage etc.
Ya, I
should be doing this via HF, but that's next. The
rig I
have that has the TNC-X connected to it is a ICOM
880H
2M/70CM.
ron
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I assume that because you have the TNC X connected to the 880 that you are trying to connect to a RMS Packet station?via VHF=FM.? Am I correct? ?
To: d-rats_group@... From: d-rats_group@... Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:41:06 -0700 Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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Ah!? OK, via Internet....Ya, I got that working just fine.
My main objective is to get RF/Winlink email working
when I am remote -- e.g. no cell coverage etc.? Ya, I
should be doing this via HF, but that's next.? The rig I
have that has the TNC-X connected to it is a ICOM 880H
2M/70CM.
ron
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There is NO D-rats, 5100 style pix or text messaging going on.??The Papa system is quite busy at times, so trying to get any data thru would cause issues.? I hope that with the addition of the 5100 and the 51A Anniversary radios, their might be some additional interest.? I am using DRATS?on the internet (3 RAT reflectors), and am monitoring the Papa system, but am only getting position reports from the RF.? I have been on several of the reflectors with my DVAP and monitored for DRATS traffic.? I was also?involved with the testing of PIX from the 5100 radios. ? I think DRATS provides a great way to pass messages in an emergency?(or anytime).? I plan to hook it?up to my 880 and put that on the local VHF Packet frequency and see if?how it works.? The local VHF ARES groups use Outpost for their Packet client, and I doubt any of they will want to change.? I?just sold the County EC a 80AD and a ID31A, which?he is trying to find time to set up.? ? I hope that DRATS and the new message capabilities that ICOM is coming out with will be compatible.? ? Rusty ? ? > To: d-rats_group@...
> From: d-rats_group@...
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:38:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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>
> I'm somewhat surprised the local Dstar repeater frowns on data
> transmissions... that's part of what makes Dstar powerful and there are
> even dedicated data REFLECTORS! Look at
> http://www.dstarinfo.com/reflectors.aspx and search for "data". You
> connect to these data refectors just like you would any other Dstar
> reflector but once connected, you use the Dstar radio's computer
> connection via say D-RATs, etc.
>
> Btw, D-Rats on RF works pretty well. Since data over Dstar doesn't have
> any standard per se, D-Rats created it's own protocol if you will over
> it. That same protocol is also used over AGW/PE packet if you want to
> use it that way. One thing I really like about D-Rats is you can be
> connected to the Internet RAT flector, and have a working connection on
> RF, and Packet and in the chat window, select which link your messages
> will go over.
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
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Ah!? OK, via Internet....Ya, I got that working just fine.
My main objective is to get RF/Winlink email working
when I am remote -- e.g. no cell coverage etc.? Ya, I
should be doing this via HF, but that's next.? The rig I
have that has the TNC-X connected to it is a ICOM 880H
2M/70CM.
ron
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I'm somewhat surprised the local Dstar repeater frowns on data transmissions... that's part of what makes Dstar powerful and there are even dedicated data REFLECTORS! Look at and search for "data". You connect to these data refectors just like you would any other Dstar reflector but once connected, you use the Dstar radio's computer connection via say D-RATs, etc.
Btw, D-Rats on RF works pretty well. Since data over Dstar doesn't have any standard per se, D-Rats created it's own protocol if you will over it. That same protocol is also used over AGW/PE packet if you want to use it that way. One thing I really like about D-Rats is you can be connected to the Internet RAT flector, and have a working connection on RF, and Packet and in the chat window, select which link your messages will go over.
--David
KI6ZHD
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The instructions I gave you require a Internet connection, and the connections are directly?via?the Interned.? I'm not sure how it would work via RF.? What radio are you trying to connect to?? I've only tried the chat via the Internet, as?data transmissions are sort of frowned on the local RF system.? Who are you trying to chat with via the Radio?? ? Rusty ?
To: d-rats_group@... From: d-rats_group@... Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 19:03:41 -0700 Subject: RE: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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Thanks Rusty.? No soap  ? The one thing that gave me some hope here was the "WL2K" pick, followed by Send -- which was not exactly what I was doing.? Whe I tried this, there was no indication of a transmission. Although again, if I go to Chat, dial to dead space, and do a chat/send then PTT goes on, RED light so I think some stuff is working.? Incidentally, I did confirm that I can send/rec via D-Rats on a landline.?? Of note, when I fire up D-Rats I do get a short RED light (transmission), when I close the app, also get a short transmission. I think that's how D-Rats works so that may be a good sign.? Hmmm,? the one thing that I am now wondering about is "reach", that Winlink station is pretty far from me.? I don't know what the actual Winlink Telnet protocol is, I'm wondering if D-Rats has to "hear" the staiion your tuned to before it trys to connect?? Maybe I need to give this a try at elevation, which I could do. Oh!? I am running on a Mac to make things more challenging. ron
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Thanks Rusty.? No soap ? The one thing that gave me some hope here was the "WL2K" pick, followed by Send -- which was not exactly what I was doing.? Whe I tried this, there was no indication of a transmission. Although again, if I go to Chat, dial to dead space, and do a chat/send then PTT goes on, RED light so I think some stuff is working.? Incidentally, I did confirm that I can send/rec via D-Rats on a landline.?? Of note, when I fire up D-Rats I do get a short RED light (transmission), when I close the app, also get a short transmission. I think that's how D-Rats works so that may be a good sign.? Hmmm,? the one thing that I am now wondering about is "reach", that Winlink station is pretty far from me.? I don't know what the actual Winlink Telnet protocol is, I'm wondering if D-Rats has to "hear" the staiion your tuned to before it trys to connect?? Maybe I need to give this a try at elevation, which I could do. Oh!? I am running on a Mac to make things more challenging. ron
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Ron
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I have mine set up this way...
?
In preferences, select "Messages"
?
Check Allow Winlink
I use "NET" in the Winlink Connections box
In the Winlink Server box, select one of the servers (using the dropdown box), port is 8772
I use a "9" in the SSID box
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I'm not using a RMS Server, so that box is empty
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When your ready to send a message:
?
Select the Message tab
Select "Email"
Your call sign should be in the From box
Put the email address you are sending the message to in the To box
In the Subject line type //WL2K then the subject
Type the text of the message
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When your ready to send the message, ? Click?Send Click on the down arrow to the right of "Send/Rcv" and select WL2K, then click on Send/Rcv. ? The message should go.? ? Suggest sending a message from your landline computer to your?Winlink address before you start.? If all goes well, the message should be in your "in Box" after the send/rcv function
?I've probably forgotten something, but this works for me ? Rusty K1GGS
To: d-rats_group@... From: d-rats_group@... Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 13:42:24 -0700 Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS Training
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Dangit!! Missed this training opportunity Although I am pretty much up and running with the basics, but now attempting to get a TNC-X up and running for Winlink email with difficulties.? Looking in the chat window I do see packets come in and get decoded.? Just can't get mail out and I do have a Winlink account, using the prefix WL2K:? Has to be someting dumb. 73 ron
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Dangit!! Missed this training opportunity Although I am pretty much up and running with the basics, but now attempting to get a TNC-X up and running for Winlink email with difficulties.? Looking in the chat window I do see packets come in and get decoded.? Just can't get mail out and I do have a Winlink account, using the prefix WL2K:? Has to be someting dumb. 73 ron
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Hello Jim,
I am going to start a D-RATS Training course this Thursday, Sept. 11, 2014 on the AE5HE RATflector at 7 PM (MDT). There will be four sessions scheduled for one hour each. The sessions will be on Sept. 11, 25, Oct 9 and 23. Send me an email at kb5hpt@... and I will get you registered and send you some additional information about the training.
73, Lew, KB5HPT
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