Check out the MARCA Group.? They were one of the founding entities of D-Star in the Phoenix and are very supportive of new users. www.W7MOT.org 73 ? ---In d-rats_group@..., <pvngsfire@...> wrote: New to d-rats and trying to understand how to set up preferences. Looking for some one Arizona area that could possibly help and make it a bit simpler for me to understand, I tried to follow the file section but had way to many questions, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Jay
KD7LBV
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If the Control Operator is licensed and on-site for the band you're transmitting on you shoud be OK.
A transmission is a transmission where it's voice or data VOIP thats eventually transmitted over to RF on Amateur Freqs, so look at the "Control Station Operator Rules."
Example;
Field Day Demos;
A Non Licensee(walk up civilian) can use the privileges of an Extra Class(or other License Class) if the Extra Class is the Station or Control Operator and operating within his privileges.? The Extra Class has to be present at the station.
I would review the "peculiar use" restrictions/rules, (just as a refresher if the EMA has additional questions or what if's)..
73
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Today while our ARES group was deployed with our county EMA in support of an air show our EMA contact asked if we could set up a way to have various internet-connected PC users to chat and transfer files during a deployment or excercise. ?I showed him D-Rats, and he liked the solution. ?We talked about setting up a ratflector for the county. One thing he asked, though, deserves some extra thought. ?
Can non-hams use D-Rats? ?I think he wants dispatchers on the county MCV to have access to it. ?My first thought is yes, since we are talking about internet connected devices, it would be ok for non-hams to use our ratflector. ?
But, what if we eventually tie in RF connected stations? ?The radios will certainly have to be operated by hams. ?But, would we be legal if we had non-hams using D-Rats on internet-connected (not RF connected) PCs set up with tactical callsigns?
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Re: Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu
Thanks, Mike.? I found a post on Dan’s dratsusers maillist that discussed this from WT0F.? I had one error loading his files, but have emailed him for instructions.?
I think we’ll get there shortly.
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John WB4QDX
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Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu
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If you were running Fedora Linux I could give you a .service file that would start it on boot.
Try editing the rc.local file and add something like this:
/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/d-rats_repeater -C
Check the path for where Python and d-rat_repeater and rc.local are installed! they may be in a different folder on Ubuntu.
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John, if no one else can answer I may be able to find it.? I think I had a ratflector running on Ubuntu.??? If it's still around I've
probably done this.?? Hit me up later tonight if no one else answers.
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Dan
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I just followed the instructions for installing D-RATS on an Ubuntu server and it looks like it installed okay. ?I want to configure a ratflector from command line and have it startup automatically at boot.
Anyone with instructions?
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Re: Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu
If you were running Fedora Linux I could give you a .service file that would start it on boot.
Try editing the rc.local file and add something like this: /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/d-rats_repeater -C
To edit rc.local: vim /etc/rc.local
Check the path for where Python and d-rat_repeater and rc.local are installed! they may be in a different folder on Ubuntu.
Mike, N0SO
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John, if no one else can answer I may be able to find it.? I think I had a ratflector running on Ubuntu.??? If it's still around I've probably done this.?? Hit me up later tonight if no one else answers. ? Dan W4DTO ? ? ? I just followed the instructions for installing D-RATS on an Ubuntu server and it looks like it installed okay. ?I want to configure a ratflector from command line and have it startup automatically at boot. Anyone with instructions?
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Re: Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu
John, if no one else can answer I may be able to find it.? I think I had a ratflector running on Ubuntu.??? If it's still around I've probably done this.?? Hit me up later tonight if no one else answers. ? Dan W4DTO ?
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Subject: [d-rats_group] Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu? ? I just followed the instructions for installing D-RATS on an Ubuntu server and it looks like it installed okay. ?I want to configure a ratflector from command line and have it startup automatically at boot. Anyone with instructions?
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Installing and running ratflector on Ubuntu
I just followed the instructions for installing D-RATS on an Ubuntu server and it looks like it installed okay. ?I want to configure a ratflector from command line and have it startup automatically at boot.
Anyone with instructions?
John WB4QDX
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You can run D-RATS on the same computer that hosts the gateway. Download and install the D-RATS software and run the D-RATS repeater utility. Mark the "Accecpt incoming connections" box and click the On button. I believe the G4KLX software will let D-RATS connect to the low speed data stream of the repeater radio. For more information, download "Running your own Ratflector.pdf" from the files section of this group. 73, Patrick --- In d-rats_group@..., wrote:
I am really new to D-Star and D-Rats. I am setting up a new repeater
for D-Star, but would really like to have the ability for users that do not have a D-Star radio to connect to a gateway or ratflector and talk to those using D-Rats via RF.
My main concern is that I don't want to Tie up a radio just to have a
link to the internet for these users.
Is there a way to run a gateway or ratlfector software on the computer
that is connected to the repeater itself to make this easier? I am using the G4KLX repeater and IRCDDB Gateway.
Regards,
Chris Andrist, KC7WSU
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I am really new to D-Star and D-Rats. I am setting up a new repeater for D-Star, but would really like to have the ability for users that do not have a D-Star radio to connect to a gateway or ratflector and talk to those using D-Rats via RF.
My main concern is that I don't want to Tie up a radio just to have a link to the internet for these users.
Is there a way to run a gateway or ratlfector software on the computer that is connected to the repeater itself to make this easier? I am using the G4KLX repeater and IRCDDB Gateway.
Regards,
Chris Andrist, KC7WSU
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Today while our ARES group was deployed with our county EMA in support of an air show our EMA contact asked if we could set up a way to have various internet-connected PC users to chat and transfer files during a deployment or excercise. ?I showed him D-Rats, and he liked the solution. ?We talked about setting up a ratflector for the county. One thing he asked, though, deserves some extra thought. ?
Can non-hams use D-Rats? ?I think he wants dispatchers on the county MCV to have access to it. ?My first thought is yes, since we are talking about internet connected devices, it would be ok for non-hams to use our ratflector. ?
But, what if we eventually tie in RF connected stations? ?The radios will certainly have to be operated by hams. ?But, would we be legal if we had non-hams using D-Rats on internet-connected (not RF connected) PCs set up with tactical callsigns?
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Re: ID-880 Settings for D-DRATS
Never mind. ?I looked at this multiple times before cleaning my spectacles and realizing that this setting applied to the 800, not the 880.
Thanks anyway.
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Re: ID-880 Settings for D-DRATS
Never mind. ?I looked at this 20 times before cleaning my spectacles and realizing that this setting is for the 800 not the 880.? ---In d-rats_group@..., <d-rats_group@...> wrote: I'm trying to get D-RATS configured for the first time with my ID-880H. ?Every site that I see about this combination says that I must set the radio value DVT=DVTAT. ?I have found all the other recommended settings on the radio, but not DVT.
Thoughts?
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ID-880 Settings for D-DRATS
I'm trying to get D-RATS configured for the first time with my ID-880H. ?Every site that I see about this combination says that I must set the radio value DVT=DVTAT. ?I have found all the other recommended settings on the radio, but not DVT.
Thoughts?
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Re: mb6jp d-rats on ref015 C can you see me?
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Hello,
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My ststion is 24/7 so you can connect and test any time.
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I moved to module D as suggested however no one on there, there was 2 other stations on Module C
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I'll stay on C for now.
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feel free to have a play.
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Thanks
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james.
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--- In d-rats_group@..., <radiok4ifx@...> wrote:
Module D (REF015D) is designated for DRATS use. I would tune in but am stuck at work til 1800 eastern time.
--- In d-rats_group@..., <d-rats_group@...> wrote:
I have set up a small test station using a dv dongle
I am hooked in to ref 015 C using D-rats
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Please can I ask if you have any spare time try a ping or leave me a mail .or message.
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Hope to be setting up real radio for this soon.
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Thanks
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James / 2e1avx / kg7efv
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Re: mb6jp d-rats on ref015 C can you see me?
Module D (REF015D) is designated for DRATS use. I would tune in but am stuck at work til 1800 eastern time.
--- In d-rats_group@..., <d-rats_group@...> wrote: I have set up a small test station using a dv dongle
I am hooked in to ref 015 C using D-rats
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Please can I ask if you have any spare time try a ping or leave me a mail .or message.
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Hope to be setting up real radio for this soon.
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Thanks
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James / 2e1avx / kg7efv
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mb6jp d-rats on ref015 C can you see me?
I have set up a small test station using a dv dongle
I am hooked in to ref 015 C using D-rats
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Please can I ask if you have any spare time try a ping or leave me a mail .or message.
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Hope to be setting up real radio for this soon.
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Thanks
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James / 2e1avx / kg7efv
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Re: D-RATS & AX25 (9600 baud question)
Hi Dan,
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I managed to set up ratflector on one PC which is connected to the 44 network (ham radio)
and in that rafflector also include the Internet d-rats server.
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Then from a remote PC also connected over the 44 network run d-rats client, I pointed it to the 44 IP address of the above station, made a connection and was able to send a *Ping All* and get a list of all stations on the Internet side.
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I was then able to chat to a remote station in near real time (no delays) send and rx mail and all other features worked no issues at all.
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I then found another user who was connected via:-? PC--d-star radio--d-star repeater--Ratflector--d-rats server
So the full Monty of?D-star connection to d-rats.
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So It will work....?Could this be the savior of packet radio and the ampr net?
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Next tests will be to see if I can cross e-mail between the 2 systems...
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Also want to see if a d-star hot-spot will allow data to be transmitted with no radio using the rat-flector?
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73 and good luck
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James / 2e1avx / mb7jp/ mb7usm / mb7ism / kg7efv ;-)
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Re: D-RATS & AX25 (9600 baud question)
Very interesting concept, James.?? I'm not familiar with ampr.org.?? I will have to check it out. ?? ?
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Subject: [d-rats_group] Re: D-RATS & AX25 (9600 baud question)? ? Hi Dan,
OK so the next stage up from ax25 / packet radio is to put the old TNC in kiss mode and from Linux assign an IP address to the radio interface.
In Ham radio we have ampr.org which is a full class A subnet 44.0.0.0
it basically means you can build an IP network connected over normal ham radio 2 meters 70 cms or whatever.
Much slower but think wi-fi
given each radio station is now an IP address on a network, there is no reason to set ratflector to talk ax-25.
You set up ratflector to listen on port 9001 on your 44.x network (radio side) and get the other radio users to point the d-rats client over network to 44.x.y.z
The radios will key up and send the data back and forth
This will also work over the mesh (wi-fi) networks used by hams
I guess its much easier than ax25 as far as the ratflector goes and you should at least get tnc talking to the main d-rat server
How we span in to the d-star network I have no idea..
Cheers
James.
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Re: D-RATS & AX25 (9600 baud question)
Hi Dan,
OK so the next stage up from ax25 / packet radio is to put the old TNC in kiss mode and from Linux assign an IP address to the radio interface.
In Ham radio we have ampr.org which is a full class A subnet 44.0.0.0
it basically means you can build an IP network connected over normal ham radio 2 meters 70 cms or whatever.
Much slower but think wi-fi
given each radio station is now an IP address on a network, there is no reason to set ratflector to talk ax-25.
You set up ratflector to listen on port 9001 on your 44.x network (radio side) and get the other radio users to point the d-rats client over network to 44.x.y.z
The radios will key up and send the data back and forth
This will also work over the mesh (wi-fi) networks used by hams
I guess its much easier than ax25 as far as the ratflector goes and you should at least get tnc talking to the main d-rat server
How we span in to the d-star network I have no idea..
Cheers
James.
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I have on several occasion setup a network with many different computers running D-Rats. I typically use KA8JMW, KA8JMW-1...? D-Rats users then sees each of these as unique stations. Ed KA8JMW
--- In undefined, <d-rats_group@...> wrote: John and the group,You have swerved into something I have tried to warn users about. You can have the same callsign on more than one instance of D-RATS, but please don't turn them on at the same time. As you can see, the chat operation was unpredictable. Just imagine two (or more) stations trying to respond to a mail transfer request - not good. If you need to have more than one station using the same callsign, please use a self-assigned designator. From the rules for Amateur Radio:
§ 97.119 Station identification.
(c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and after, the call sign. No self-assigned indicator may conflict with any other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned to another country.
It has become common practice to use a dash followed by a letter or number.
This is sort of a moot point as the radio transmitting the data will identify itself with the MYCALL field. Still, using unique callsigns that conform to the rules is just good practice.
The D-RATS "callsign" can be any eight characters, which allows for tactical callsigns like EOC, Hospital, Shelter or Post 1. This makes it easier on field operators since they won't have to remember which Amateur callsign is at which location.
One thing I ask is PLEEEEEEEEEASE use an Amateur callsign on your D-RATS station unless you have a compelling reason to do so (like a declared emergency).?
Thanks for reading, Patrick (N3TSZ)
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Re: D-RATS & AX25 (9600 baud question)
We're in the same place, then.? I have made a tnc work on d-rats, but cannot make it work on a ratflector.?? ??I don't understand your question about "44 IP".???? ? Dan W4DTO
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Dan Ozment
Patrick Connor