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Putting my money where my mouth is, I switched my dual-boot laptop over to Windows 10 Pro, applied numerous Windows updates which were piled up, and even a BIOS ROM update. I went down the rabbit hole of getting D-Rats v0.4.2. running on Windows 10 Pro, and you can see from the screen capture below that I was successfully connected for about half an hour and held a QSO with KG5CEN (Glen) in Mississippi. He sends a shout-out to John Davis, btw. :-)

It's definitely not "turnkey" but about the only gotcha I ran into was an incompatibility with an existing version of Python installed under Windows vs. what MobaXterm was using. (That's easily avoidable with either removing the Windows version of Python or probably changing the order of the PATH environment variables so that MobaXterm's Python is found first.) And there is one mistake in the instructions (incorrect link which is easily fixed) which I will try to send a pull request to correct.

I should also note that the MobaXterm installation script really simplifies the process for end users.

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On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:31?PM Dave Slotter, W3DJS via <slotter=[email protected]> wrote:
The first thing I believe I should say is that despite Larry (and I) being members of Georgia ARES and Gwinnett County ARES, we do not speak for these organizations. Our words are our own and should not be construed as speaking for them in an official manner.

Upon reading Larry's words, I believe he is badly misinformed as to the amount of blood, sweat and tears that John and Maurizio have put into D-Rats since development had been dropped years ago in version 0.3.9 by the prior developer.

I have been subscribed to the new D-Rats project on GitHub and have seen first-hand how much time and effort Maurizio and then John put into getting the code compatible with Python 3 and then accepting bug reports and analyzing the code base and carefully fixing the myriad of bugs in the code.

I applaud John and Maurizio's efforts and encourage them to continue their hard, unpaid, volunteer work and ask them to not let some ill-chosen words deflect from all the good they have done so far. Without them and their hundred if not thousands of hours of unpaid work, D-Rats would still be stuck on version 0.3.9.

Does version 0.4.2 have a turnkey Windows installer like version 0.3.9? No, but I can install it onto a current Windows system without too much effort and showing the improvements.

The next version of HamPi, HamPC and HamIQ, which includes D-Rats will have version 0.4.2 or newer available to launch off the Ham Radio Menu like any other gui application.

I should also state for the record, that within the last several months, I ran D-Rats 0.4.x and was successful with backwards compatibility with message transfers with other users running 0.3.9. it was a very good feeling seeing that I could receive their ICS-213s.

I would urge Larry and others who may have experienced bugs in the past to go to the new GitHub project and write them up as 0.3.9 bugs under the Issues page. That is one of the best ways we can help -- by providing honest feedback in our experiences and raising awareness about individual deficiencies in the proper venue.

I am copying the Georgia Section coordinator and Gwinnett County coordinator in case they wish to add their words to the conversation.

Again, these are my words alone, not of the organizations I belong to.

Thank you, John and Maurizio for all you are doing?

-Dave, W3DJS?

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023, 10:49 AM Larry Whited <lwhited1@...> wrote:
I'd say on balance a good product that I would like to see refined to the level of the programs mentioned.? Locally, groups could implement RF connections (ratflectors) that would offer the RF component.? As a P2P tool, it is outstanding!

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