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--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@...> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@...> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



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From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@...> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@...> wrote:

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:29 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d
(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@...> wrote:

That's why a lot of use multiple crosspoint connect symbols, normally one for each touch panel, that way you just leave the panel connect and change equipment. Although, disconnect all disconnects EVERY symbol, just not the one you pulse it on. Thus the warning, I believe.

--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@> wrote:

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.?? I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.?? 1, to 101.??



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


??
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>
wrote:



You could always teach the wife to fix it :)

Very early in my relationship with my girlfriend she learned what
SIMPLWindows was and basic digital logic (she wanted to know what I did all
day so...)

She no longer thinks my house hates her (though she still thinks it's
semi-sentient) and has never actually used SIMPL Windows but if there was a
bug that annoyed her enough I'm sure it would get fixed.

SIMPL+ is still off in the horizon but...

(She studied Art History and Art Conservation and works for a museum so
it's not like she has a programming background... but she's damn smart)

Lincoln
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:29 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the

out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point

100d

(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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On Apr 23, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...> wrote:

That's funny. I've been training my gf as well. She knows the difference
between simpl windows and vt pro she doesn't get the logic yet but she
understands symbols and cross points. She heard me cussing cross points a
few times and wanted to know what was pissing me off lol.

She knows cars really well so typically if I can come up with a car
scenario using the logic she understands it. Go figure.



Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 23, 2012, at 11:38 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>
wrote:



You could always teach the wife to fix it :)

Very early in my relationship with my girlfriend she learned what
SIMPLWindows was and basic digital logic (she wanted to know what I did all
day so...)

She no longer thinks my house hates her (though she still thinks it's
semi-sentient) and has never actually used SIMPL Windows but if there was a
bug that annoyed her enough I'm sure it would get fixed.

SIMPL+ is still off in the horizon but...

(She studied Art History and Art Conservation and works for a museum so
it's not like she has a programming background... but she's damn smart)

Lincoln
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:29 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the

out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point

100d

(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F

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Yahoo!
Groups Links




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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links