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DMX Controller Control for Small Project

 

I'm new to DMX, and have a project upcoming that will incorporate some DMX LED tape, etc.
The project is a barn, and client wishes to have options for colored lighting for parties, hanging out, game night, etc.
My objectives:
Use a dedicated DMX controller where I can create scenes/chases, etc (on its dedicated PC software, and/or iPad app)., and have those presets be recallable from a Crestron touchscreen/CP4.
Nothing fancy, just some presets like "Christmas" (flashes Red and Green), "Blue" (turns all lights Blue), "Rainbow" (chases through all colors), etc.
It seems like the Pharaos LPC and Enttec S-Play are way overkill for what I need, and wondering if there is anything cheaper that will allow preset recall via Crestron commands over ethernet.
I also see CueServer, and did some basic work with Colorbeam.
Frankly, I'm not sure exactly what I would need (besides the LED tape, other DMX lights) to make this happen.
I do know that I would like to have a DMX controller for all control, and not use the CP4 to natively create scenes/presets, etc. via SIMPL.

Any help/input would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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Hi,

Is it only for controlling lights? Go for a app running on a iPad. I know that ADJ used to have a wireless DMX unit which you controlled via an ipad or computer I think. Didn’t cost that much, perfect for the barn owner, easy to use.

Don't make it more advanced than necessary ?



//Stefan

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I'm new to DMX, and have a project upcoming that will incorporate some DMX LED tape, etc.
The project is a barn, and client wishes to have options for colored lighting for parties, hanging out, game night, etc.
My objectives:
Use a dedicated DMX controller where I can create scenes/chases, etc (on its dedicated PC software, and/or iPad app)., and have those presets be recallable from a Crestron touchscreen/CP4.
Nothing fancy, just some presets like "Christmas" (flashes Red and Green), "Blue" (turns all lights Blue), "Rainbow" (chases through all colors), etc.
It seems like the Pharaos LPC and Enttec S-Play are way overkill for what I need, and wondering if there is anything cheaper that will allow preset recall via Crestron commands over ethernet.
I also see CueServer, and did some basic work with Colorbeam.
Frankly, I'm not sure exactly what I would need (besides the LED tape, other DMX lights) to make this happen.
I do know that I would like to have a DMX controller for all control, and not use the CP4 to natively create scenes/presets, etc. via SIMPL.

Any help/input would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 

I'll be controlling AV with Crestron as well.
So, for example, when the push a button "Party", the music turns on, projector screen comes down with graphic visuals, and lights go to a particular preset with multi colors, chasing, etc.
 

Personally i think this one bellow? is one of the easiest DMX interfaces i have used with Crestron. If you build a small module to write the analog values to a file you can also build and save custom presets. DMX works like each light or part of a light will show up as a channel (analog Join in Crestron) each channel can control a portion of a light for example one channel may be a dimmer one may be the color one may be to move the light if it has motors, and so forth and so on. This also lets you pass through to a normal lighting board or to read and save presets from a lighting board even.?

https://www.crestron.com/Products/Lighting-Environment/Lighting-Fixture-Accessories/Interfaces/CGDMX-512BI?
 

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Okie, then its a totally different game.

I have been using Enttec ODE MK2 a few times to control front lights and so. Very basic and easy stuff.

To create chases and such stuff, you need to create our own in Crestron, sending DMX values, it takes little bit more time programming vise, but its doable. If you know S+ or S#, you could create your own module to do that for you, if not – use CueServer or similar. I know it cost a lot, but it’s very easy if you want to record DMX streams for example, and create something with a light controller.

A lot of lamps have build in effects that might be good enough, then will it be easy to use Enttec ODE MK3, just send that value that trigger that effect you want.

BUT, I had issue with the built in sACN modul in simpl windows, it didn’t work with my Serie4 processor – but I found a module that did.

//Stefan

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I'll be controlling AV with Crestron as well.
So, for example, when the push a button "Party", the music turns on, projector screen comes down with graphic visuals, and lights go to a particular preset with multi colors, chasing, etc.

 

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I also would prefer to just trigger scenes/fades/changes from the Crestron to an external DMX controller/player.

You can do it in the Crestron controller, but you can get hickups if there?s too much going on at the same time.

I?ve used the Engineering Solutions DMX Engine before:

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There?s also an option from Ultamation which can do internal fades and patterns.

You might want to look if this fits your requirements.

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HTH

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Cheers,

Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von markcrestrongroup
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2024 01:37
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I'll be controlling AV with Crestron as well.
So, for example, when the push a button "Party", the music turns on, projector screen comes down with graphic visuals, and lights go to a particular preset with multi colors, chasing, etc.

 

I haven't used this device yet, but I think it would accomplish what you need. The Chauvet Xpress-Rack 1024 has IO on the back where you can trigger scenes. So I think you could program your scenes in the Chauvet software and then just trigger them from Crestron.?
 

What is the difference between the Enttec ODE MK2/3 and the Enttec DIN ETHERGATE?
 

Interesting.? Not sure I want to get in to creating chases, etc. from the ground up, when it seems many DMX controllers have associated software with all those effects already built in.
Again, mainly looking to have a DMX controller that I can send commands to to recall a scene, etc.

"Personally i think this one bellow? is one of the easiest DMX interfaces i have used with Crestron. If you build a small module to write the analog values to a file you can also build and save custom presets. DMX works like each light or part of a light will show up as a channel (analog Join in Crestron) each channel can control a portion of a light for example one channel may be a dimmer one may be the color one may be to move the light if it has motors, and so forth and so on. This also lets you pass through to a normal lighting board or to read and save presets from a lighting board even.?

https://www.crestron.com/Products/Lighting-Environment/Lighting-Fixture-Accessories/Interfaces/CGDMX-512BI "
 

Yes, this is the closest to my goal that I have seen.? Would be great to have the ability to recall more scenes via Crestron commands vs. the 8 contact closure on rear of Chauvet.
I'm still fuzzy on Playlist vs. Cue vs. Scene, etc. but am looking for something where I send an IP command from a Crestron TCP/IP Client like:
PLAY = PRESET 7, where preset 7 is a random rainbow flashing.? PRESET 8 might be slow fading red and green alternating.? PRESET 9 might be strobe effect (flashing white on and off), PRESET 10 might be just all solid blue lights steady on.? PRESET 11 might be random lights according to the music playing (audio sense).


On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 08:27 AM, LEvans wrote:
I haven't used this device yet, but I think it would accomplish what you need. The Chauvet Xpress-Rack 1024 has IO on the back where you can trigger scenes. So I think you could program your scenes in the Chauvet software and then just trigger them from Crestron.?
 

we almost exclusively use Cueserver from Interactive Technologies.. ?Super powerful and easy to deploy and comes in a bunch of different sizes depending on what you need.

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Really easy to fire scenes (or any other actions) from crestron via UDP commands.
 

Hi Mark?

Take a look at the UC-DMX-210 From Ultamation?


We have been trying many different ways to integrate DMX over the years,
And this is by far the best and easiest way we found.?

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On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 07:56 AM, <elias@...> wrote:

Hi Mark?

Take a look at the UC-DMX-210 From Ultamation?


We have been trying many different ways to integrate DMX over the years,
And this is by far the best and easiest way we found.

The UC-DMX-210 From Ultamation looks pretty cool, thank you.
The pattern generator seems very useful.
Regarding DMX, while doing late night research, I found myself in a heap of WLED pages, and now wondering about that option.....hmmmm.
 

+1 for CueServer. Powerful but simple...

https://interactive-online.com/products/cueserver/processors/cs-3110
 

Hi - I tried to use a Enttec ODE?sACN MK3 using the sACN module in Simpl - but will not work. Anyone have the sane issue? No data traffic. I used?the MK2 version many times without problems..




On Wednesday, June 19, 2024, 6:59 AM, Stefan Andersson <stefan@...> wrote:

Okie, then its a totally different game.

I have been using Enttec ODE MK2 a few times to control front lights and so. Very basic and easy stuff.

To create chases and such stuff, you need to create our own in Crestron, sending DMX values, it takes little bit more time programming vise, but its doable. If you know S+ or S#, you could create your own module to do that for you, if not – use CueServer or similar. I know it cost a lot, but it’s very easy if you want to record DMX streams for example, and create something with a light controller.

A lot of lamps have build in effects that might be good enough, then will it be easy to use Enttec ODE MK3, just send that value that trigger that effect you want.

BUT, I had issue with the built in sACN modul in simpl windows, it didn’t work with my Serie4 processor – but I found a module that did.

//Stefan

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Fr?n: [email protected] <[email protected]> F?r markcrestrongroup via groups.io
Skickat: den 19 juni 2024 01:37
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?mne: Re: [crestron] DMX Controller Control for Small Project

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I'll be controlling AV with Crestron as well.
So, for example, when the push a button "Party", the music turns on, projector screen comes down with graphic visuals, and lights go to a particular preset with multi colors, chasing, etc.

 

Been a long time since I had to do chase scenes.? The project we did it on used Color Kinetics and we interfaced to their controller.? With the system that we worked on the power supplies were ID with the channels and the lighting program knows where the power supplies are in the string.? We only had to send the command to activate the scene.
 

Works great for me using?Crestron's SACN?SenderDirectSockets.? Port should be default 5568.? On the ODE, Port Type should be Output (DMX OUT), protocol sACN, and universe?number has to match what's set on the Crestron module.? Analog values are 0 to 255 - don't try to send a percentage.


On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 2:19?AM bakkentr via <bakkentr=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi - I tried to use a Enttec ODE?sACN MK3 using the sACN module in Simpl - but will not work. Anyone have the sane issue? No data traffic. I used?the MK2 version many times without problems..




On Wednesday, June 19, 2024, 6:59 AM, Stefan Andersson <stefan@...> wrote:

Okie, then its a totally different game.

I have been using Enttec ODE MK2 a few times to control front lights and so. Very basic and easy stuff.

To create chases and such stuff, you need to create our own in Crestron, sending DMX values, it takes little bit more time programming vise, but its doable. If you know S+ or S#, you could create your own module to do that for you, if not – use CueServer or similar. I know it cost a lot, but it’s very easy if you want to record DMX streams for example, and create something with a light controller.

A lot of lamps have build in effects that might be good enough, then will it be easy to use Enttec ODE MK3, just send that value that trigger that effect you want.

BUT, I had issue with the built in sACN modul in simpl windows, it didn’t work with my Serie4 processor – but I found a module that did.

//Stefan

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Skickat: den 19 juni 2024 01:37
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I'll be controlling AV with Crestron as well.
So, for example, when the push a button "Party", the music turns on, projector screen comes down with graphic visuals, and lights go to a particular preset with multi colors, chasing, etc.

 

On the subject of DMX, anyone have any recommendations for a DMX controlled simple relay (or several) for switching some 24v garden lights?? I have some pwm dmx dimmers but they don't seem to want to play nice with these particular lights.??
 

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bambam_101
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On the subject of DMX, anyone have any recommendations for a DMX controlled simple relay (or several) for switching some 24v garden lights?? I have some pwm dmx dimmers but they don't seem to want to play nice with these particular lights.??

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