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Re: Colorlight Z6 control?

 

Hello Anewdaytotri,
? Thank you for the info and example code for the Z6!? I've been handed a job using a S6F Planar and the protocol looks similar but the S6F manual only mentions UDP connection.??
I see in your code that there is a subsystem folder for "Datapath".? The system I am working on uses a Datapath VSN400 running WallControl 10.? Do you have experience with controlling those?

Thanks again!
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Doug G


Re: Can't connect to a PRO3 from toolbox

 

Connecting via USB solved both problems? I now have access to both Pro3's.? I also noticed that when I clear MSG aka ERR via USB the led stays off when I disconnect.
Now I just have to figure out why my weather processor 1.6 and touch panel interface 2.0 isn't working.? Probably a port issue.? The 3 series has much more security then the 2 series and I haven't looked at that yet.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

I think the product we see on Amazon when you search "jandy rs serial adapter" is the genuine original interface, not an aftermarket -- the relationship between Zodiac and Jandy is one of merger and acquisition many years ago.? Maybe I'm wrong but this is the impression I got


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Thank you all for replying.? I wasn't expecting this much feedback but I appreciate all your feedback.

It good to know that even though the Jandy RS adaptor isn't made or supported by Jandy anymore that it may still work.? And IMHO, assuming that it still works, it is really the better solution than using the cloud base solution.? And now there appears that someone is making an after market one. Just do a google search for "jandy rs serial adapter" and you will find the first hit is for one being sold on Amazon.? A little pricey at $890 but it may be a good alternative.? Also search github for Jandy and you will find several open source projects using it.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Oh that iAqualink module really stinks. Would really love to have a module that communicates locally without all the delays. The iAqualink app doesnt seem to have those delays. We had a client that was fed up with it and demanded that we make Jandy fix the API. Yea no thats not how things work sir... Would have been nice if we could load the Jandy app on a TSW panel but cant do that. So we instead used a button on our pool page to flip to the built in browser on the panels and seed the iAqualink web control URL so it opens righ to the controls there which of course work as they should with no delays. A bit of a kludgy workaround but it is good enough for this client.?

I wish the RS interfaces werent impossible to get I would love to keep using those.?


Re: System Key

 

Yup I have had the system key change on several PRO3s simply due to power cycles. And some on Init/restore. Completely ridiculous as it can take hours for them to supply you with a new one. In my cases it was a Lutron license so they had no lighting control until whoever lives in the abandoned closet that provides them could get me a new one. Especially the fact that they are now free for those systems that need it, they should be generated by a tool that you can just enter the info and get a new license key.?

There should never be a reason the system key changes. The fact that it can means it can completely break the system at any time for whatever reason.?


Re: SIMPL# question

OneArmedBandit
 

You can usually get the code back from a c# .dll if it is not obfuscated using c# de-compilers like JetBrains DotNetPeek?


Re: Audio Only source via DM

 

Also curious about this, as we have 2 dm frames connecting to each other in a lecture hall enviornment (1 at rack, and 1 at teacher station)..

The mic is fed via a bnc or dvi card, and runs on the same dm line as the camera feed to go to the teacher station to feed for capture, zoom, teams, etc.?? When switching cameras(there's 2 of them) on the rack dm we loose audio for a few seconds as video in 5&6 switch but audio in 7 always remains the same on output 3.

most systems are set up with BNC cards for the audio.? will this stop happening if we switch to DVI?


Legrand Daker DK+ rs232

 

I have 2 Legrand daker dk+ in my rack which should have a couple of their sockets toggled on a touch panel, I've looked everywhere and cannot find neither a module nor clear information on the information protocol over rs232 for the device. Has anyone had experience with this and could help me?


Re: Gas Valve compatible with Crestron Home?

 

More information about the pool heater would be needed to answer that question safely.? Generally there is 2 types of residential gas valves.? Those that open when provided 24 vac of power and power pile gas valves which create their own power via power pile generator to hold the pilot on and 2 terminals on the valve get closed via t-stat.? That said, there are some Euro wall hung high eff boilers that have dc operated gas valves.? My guess is that the safest route would be to interrupt the signal from the thermostat with a relay.? Post the model and serial of the pool heater.


Re: USB Console connection DM-NVX-360

 

If I have to do the 11 power cycle reset, how far does it need to boot for each power cycle to count?


Gas Valve compatible with Crestron Home?

 

Client wants his pool heating to be integrated into the Crestron Home system. The pool is heated via a Gas Valve opening and closing, are there any compatible Gas Valves with Crestron Home?

Thanks.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

I am pretty sure I have seen "Jandy Generic Serial Adapter Kit | AquaLink RS Home Automation Interface | 7620" for sale --

at the price of $899, it led a group of folks to reverse engineer it and create an open-source version that can be loaded on a Raspberry Pi for those not willing to pay the price [or those wanting this after it's no longer obtainable].? Anyway, this device connects via RS232 and acts as a node on the AquaLink's internal bus [RS485, shared with the keypad I belive] and allows you to pass commands to it without the internet... assuming you can still buy this item (or replicate it with the open source version).

If all you want to do is turn on some lights, why bother with a full blown driver?? It looks like you can just send text to it with a serial send.? "# AUX1 = ON(cr)" says page 24 of the manual, guessing if the landscape lights are plugged into the aux 1 circuit, this would make them turn on.


Re: Can't connect to a PRO3 from toolbox

 

Have you ever noticed, when you're not looking for something, you're constantly pushing it out of the way.? When you actually need it...BLACK HOLE.? I swear I had that cable in my hand within the last two weeks.? Now I can't find it.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Presumably you know about??That's where you can set up your own account and point it to multiple different systems. Because the Crestron module only has 10 systems, I started another login to with zodiacpoolsystems.com with a different email for my next 10 systems. But that ORDER on their web page lines up with the system number on the Crestron module and that you have control of and won't change unless you tell it to change. So when I go to a pool page on a particular job, I have to be sure to call up the right system (if system 7 is Mr Smith's system then in Mr Smith's code I point to system 7 etc. You need to be on site and have the code printed on the side of the iAqualink device and find it on the local network one time, and then forever more you can connect remotely. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to extend the module to cover more systems.

Having said all that, I rather loathe this module - it doesn't push updates to the Crestron module when you change things on the iAqualink app. I think it only refreshes when you select the system, which seems like a real weakness.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Thanks Joe.? I don't that that is possible to use a simple serial I/O in this case because it is a cloud system that I am sure has layers of security.? But it is good to know that it is possible to decomple using JetBrainsto

Several years ago while commissioning some Cisco VTC systems at the Pentagon, I ran into an issue with the Cisco RoomDeviceDriver 3.4.? This was a SIMPL# driver with no source, but I was able to use the dotPeek decompiler from JetBrainsto extract all the source code and tracked down the problem (I did not modify the source code and recompile; instead I added a Serial I/O to work around it.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Thank.? I wish that was an option.? The issue is it would cost a butt load of money to trench to the two Jandy systems, add lightning protection, and then even find an RS Interface.? The current single RS interface was working until someone apparently slice that line somewhere in the yard.? Then replaced the Jandy controller.? And no one knows how it gets in the house.

That serial interface might still work.? I would test it before abandoning something that works.? I have one operating on an iAquaLink system, although the Jandy folks say it won¡¯t work


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Several years ago while commissioning some Cisco VTC systems at the Pentagon, I ran into an issue with the Cisco RoomDeviceDriver 3.4.? This was a SIMPL# driver with no source, but I was able to use the dotPeek decompiler from JetBrainsto extract all the source code and tracked down the problem (I did not modify the source code and recompile; instead I added a Serial I/O to work around it.


Re: SIMPL# question

 

Thanks Jay.? Looks like you confirmed my conclusions.? How I long for the simpler days with open protocols and a simple method to program those interfaces that doesn't rely on the internet or cloud updates that break interfaces.?

It is pretty crazy it order for the client to turn on a tree light, he has open the Jandy page, then press the splash screen, then select the appropriate Jandy system, then navigate to "Other Devices", and finally select from list of 8 different AUX functions just to turn on the Tree light.??


Re: SIMPL# question

 

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Hi Steve,

To the best of my knowledge you are correct.? The S# source code is totally separate from the clz file.? S# source code is compiled in Visual Studio and like other compiled languages the source code is separate from the output of the compiler.? You would need to go to the author of the Jandy module and see if they would be willing to share the source code with you.

Hope this helps

Jay


On 4/10/2024 4:58 PM, Steve Kuehn wrote:

I'm looking at the Jandy AquaLink 3.1 demo and unzipped the .clz file to see if there is any indication that the SIMPL# source code is available.? But I only saw some DLLs, DAT, manifest, and .config config files.? Unless I am blind (but instead likely just not very smart), nothing I can see looks remotely like source code.? So I am guessing that at least some if not all .clz files are just compile code much like a SIMPL+ .ush file. Could anyone confirm this is the case?

The reason I ask is the demo program has you select between about a dozen different Jandy systems that the client has at various houses.? I like to filter that all out and just present the two systems and functions of interest on the client's iPad.? While I could look for a particular system name. my guess is the names could change or the order they are presented could change.? Hence working with the existing Jandy module would likely be unreliable without presenting all the systems on the client's Crestron App.? They don't like switching between the Crestron App and the Jandy app.

A complicating factor is they want some of the Jandy lights that are use for landscaping to be controlled by their Crestron lighting system when it turns on the Landscape lights at night.? That would require me to switch between two different systems at the same house.? Prior, the client had been using the old RS232 interface box but that apparently is no longer an option.

Working with the existing Jandy modules just seems too unstable to automate the functions desired.? And of course, the internet and cloud servers have to be up for it to work. If I had the source code, I could possible make something more automation friendly.? Of course I would have to learn SIMPL# to do this but I trying to figure out if it is even feasible to do what I want.

Thanks for you insights and suggestions.
Steve