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Re: VTPro issues

 

I believe if you disable snapping, the quick assign won't move them.


Re: Processor not recognising unchanged IP table.

 

Are you working with RSDs in your Simpl program? Sometimes that trips me up because in the stupidity of replacing a RSD on an existing IPID, Simpl doesnt keep the IP address when you replace it, it just blanks it out. I'll forget and when I go to upload I get the message and then go back and fix.?


Re: Processor not recognising unchanged IP table.

 

"It is de rigeur if you¡¯re remapping IP table entries (in my experience at least)¡­I¡¯ve never thought t bothersome enough to worry about though"

Me neither, it's a useful notification in that circumstance, but I'm not changing any IP table entries.

"...nor can I remember it occurring when I¡¯m not remapping entries"

So, you haven't experienced this is what you're saying.


Re: Processor not recognising unchanged IP table.

 

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It is de rigeur if you¡¯re remapping IP table entries (in my experience at least)¡­I¡¯ve never thought t bothersome enough to worry about though, nor can I remember it occurring when I¡¯m not remapping entries

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rickwookie
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 5:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] Processor not recognising unchanged IP table.

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Has anyone else had a processor get stuck where this message is presented every time you upload, even though nothing in the IP table has changed?



I had it once before on a CP3, and in the end I did a full restore on it and this issue went away. I now have it on an MC4, and I'm loath to restore it, because I've already done that once for another issue and having to then go around and re-acquire all the EX devices to the MC4's in-built RFGW (something I'd not accounted for, including CLCI-DIMUEX-W in ceilings!) is not something I want to do again just to make this go away.

Is there something else I'm missing or can do to easily resolve this?


Processor not recognising unchanged IP table.

 

Has anyone else had a processor get stuck where this message is presented every time you upload, even though nothing in the IP table has changed?



I had it once before on a CP3, and in the end I did a full restore on it and this issue went away. I now have it on an MC4, and I'm loath to restore it, because I've already done that once for another issue and having to then go around and re-acquire all the EX devices to the MC4's in-built RFGW (something I'd not accounted for, including CLCI-DIMUEX-W in ceilings!) is not something I want to do again just to make this go away.

Is there something else I'm missing or can do to easily resolve this?


Re: OFF light still blinking in Crestron Light Control CLS-C6 #lighting

 

The A = Almond colored.?
Put an incandescent bulb in there and bet you it wouldn't happen. If they are MLV LED bulbs, try a larger load (more bulbs), perhaps too little draw but based on the scenes switching flash my guess is the LED driver dimming curve. The scenes probably dim the loads 50% on either load causing the flashing. If you raise all loads to 100% it may stop.

Call crestron support or do some googling on dimming curves to understand your solution.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 11:23 PM <w9nhashim@...> wrote:
My loads is normal LED light without dimmer and? the actual model of lighting control is CLS-C6A


Re: OFF light still blinking in Crestron Light Control CLS-C6 #lighting

 

My loads is normal LED light without dimmer and? the actual model of lighting control is CLS-C6A


Re: OFF light still blinking in Crestron Light Control CLS-C6 #lighting

 

Are your loads magnetic low voltage or electronic low voltage? The CLS-C6 is MLV only. (My guess is the dimming curve)


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020, 9:41 PM <w9nhashim@...> wrote:

Hi all, hope all are safe and well.

This is not related to programming but Crestron product only.

in my office, Im using 2 circuit of lights namely A and B, connected to load 1 and load 2 respectively.

At scene 1, circuit A is in ON state and B is in OFF.

At scene 2, circuit B is in ON state and A is in OFF.

At scene 3, all are ON.

The problem is during scene 1, circuit B is blinking. Same thing happen at scene 2 where circuit A will be blinking. Testing with multimeter shows that there is a pulse of 100V supplied to OFF circuit each second.

Would like to ask anyone opinion and advice on how to overcome this.


OFF light still blinking in Crestron Light Control CLS-C6 #lighting

 

Hi all, hope all are safe and well.

This is not related to programming but Crestron product only.

in my office, Im using 2 circuit of lights namely A and B, connected to load 1 and load 2 respectively.

At scene 1, circuit A is in ON state and B is in OFF.

At scene 2, circuit B is in ON state and A is in OFF.

At scene 3, all are ON.

The problem is during scene 1, circuit B is blinking. Same thing happen at scene 2 where circuit A will be blinking. Testing with multimeter shows that there is a pulse of 100V supplied to OFF circuit each second.

Would like to ask anyone opinion and advice on how to overcome this.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Hey Crestron guys who lurk here, and the ones that chime in once in a while...YOU HAVE TO FIX THIS FOR THE MC3. ?This is total BS that you just killed It (the MC3) recently and are already telling people to pound sand on updates. ?You have no idea the bad will you are generating with end users over this. ?First I tell them that a fix is on the way and not to worry because Crestron said they were on it and now I have to tell them just kidding you have to buy a new processor? ?Are you kidding? ?The cherry on top is that several of them also have Nest integration that will go away with a processor replacement. ?Please guys, just this once...give them back the functionality they HAD for a long time without all the nonsense. ?I don¡¯t need manufactured drama with clients right now...I need happy ones.


Re: system upgrade suggestions

 

ckangis - Thanks for the info and definitely will consider SurgeX products after reviewing all the specs.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Actually I liked a lot of the features on the MC3 -- much more then the MC4.?

For one, I prefer DB9 RS232 connectors.? Installers can never get the phoenix RS232 blocks wired up correctly, But give them a DB9 straight thru cable and then can connect a receiver up to the MC3 without me having to come back and wire it up correctly.? The main issue with DB9 connections is some manufacturers have no clue that the slave unit should have a DB9F instead of a DB9M and some of them even get the TX and RX in reverse on their DB9 connectors.

Likewise, I prefer the 3.5mm IR jacks.? Makes for a quick install to connect up an IR flasher.? An again, the installers cannot wire it in reverse.

Sure in some installations, having a rack mount would have been nice.? But in most of our MC3 applications (small AV systems), there isn't even a rack and the MC3 fits on a shelf much better.? While I haven't seen an MC4 yet, it doesn't look like it will fit nicely on a shelf with the ears coming out on the side of it.?

And then you could run multiple programs on the MC3 without buying a license.

The built in wave generator in the MC3 was handle in some applications.

I can see myself specifying the CP4 over the MC4 in most installations for it small price difference.


Re: Whole House surge and Equipment Power Conditioner

 

Richard Gray Power Company made equipment that would filter out noise from other customers that gets on your power line.? ?Audiophiles who drop $5k on speaker cables loved that.? Most of us don't need that level of complexity on top of just absorbing power surges.

Every house east of California's central valley should have surge protection mounted on the main fuse panel.? However, eventually, this will age and fail from multiple strikes over time and heat degradation.? Surge protection is not an easy thing to monitor over time without applying more surges.? ?

Distributed protection at a reasonable cost (from companies like TrippLite) is recommended if a strike got past the fuse box.

Do not ignore your cable drops and external sat dishes.


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

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The form factor was the worst part of the MC3 ¨C and something they corrected really well in the MC4,

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The MC3 is taller than a single RU, an odd width, no viable means of rack mounting besides putting it on a 2U shelf¡­ 1/8¡± connectors for IR¡­ bleh. MC4 on the other hand comes with a rack kit that only takes 1RU or can be flat packed behind a display or under a table really easily if either of those float your boat.

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It does seem that its been a little abandoned but given that it (as I understand) is a considerably different architecture than the following 3-series processors doesn¡¯t really surprise me. TBH, I¡¯m surprised the MC3 wasn¡¯t retired along with the introduction of the MC3 or DIN-AP3-MEX

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From: ckangis
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 10:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Issues with Sonos & Crestron

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Yeah, the MC3 has been discontinued and the last FW was 2 years ago...
It was never fully a 3-series IMHO (sorry Toine!), though a very nice form factor...

?plareeeiybusse
Oct 23???

They didn't release an update for the MC3 processor??


Re: Whole House surge and Equipment Power Conditioner

 

See my response here:
/g/crestron/message/237900


Re: system upgrade suggestions

 

My Standard Power Design:
Your Power plant IMHO is the most important, fundamental layer for reliability of your system (Network is now of course 2nd, but remember - the network won't work without good power!)
I used this basic design concept for 25 years and have seen noticeably better reliability for my systems...

SurgeX SX-20NE-RT or PF-420 (4 channel) from the branch circuit, Feeding...
-Middle Atlantic UPS's (Sized as necessary), Line-interactive or 'On-Line' as requirement needed, Feeding...
--Middle Atlantic RackLink Select Controllable Power Distribution units for individual outlet IP control of devices
? ? >>> These units provide direct webpage remote control and integration with DOMOTZ?

Music Streamer:
First, there is no longer any unpainful approach to digital music IMO, its all a crap-show no matter what you do.?
That said, I think the only 'Good' choices are Sonos or Autonomic MMS; however each has their pros and cons...

-You'll need Sonos, If you want Apple Music integration and/or AirPlay2 capability.
Also, I think the Crestron/Sonos integration provides a nice simple 'Radio Preset' approach to the UI that will be best for most clients.
Someone will have to manage the process of creating favorites via the dedicated Sonos App, and of course Sonos does not allow you to remotely manage this (have to be physically on the local network)
*** Historically, the main downside is that you'll have some occasional communication problems that require a reboot (there are ways to mitigate this in your coding) and the API strictly limits the number of favorites to a max of 30, even though Crestron allows you to see/control more.

-You want Autonomic if your client wants to be able to granularly search for specific things on their music services. The MPO interface is definitely more complicated to use, but for a capable client who wants to navigate to get exactly what's wanted, this would be the best choice. No Apple Music yet, but does have a sync program for iTunes if the cleint has music on his PC. it also support AirPlay1 FWIW?
*** Historically they have had some issues with hardware reliability (and a few minor FW Issues); however now that the original owners have taken the company back from SnapAV, we'll see if they up the ante in terms of Hardware and services...

!!!? Both do a good job of indexing, playing and creating playlists for music stored on a NAS drive for local libraries

Projector:
Generally, I've become a fan of the Sony Projectors (and XBR TVs) as their IP and serial (my preference still) control is Rock-solid.
Pictures are bright and detailed. Typically very reliable. Turns On/Off much faster than any other projectors that I've integrated.
Built in motorized lens (I think even on the entry model) to do 16:9 to CinemaScope aspect control, also a biggie for me - Electronic Blanking (4-sided) to frame the aspect properly!!!
Incredible vertical mounting range makes it easy to get it positioned in various situations, also a very wide Zoom ratio.?
Quality 4K image from $ 5000 to $ 60,000+ depending on details of the electronics/light engine (read Toyota up to Benz quality details) and light output depending on screen size/room conditions


Re: Ultamation AppleTV MediaRemote Version Connection Issues (after power loss)

 

Thanks Oliver - I'll raise a ticket with you guys.? FYI, I've stuck with PRO3 firmware 1.503.3568.26985 based on the recommendation posted on the AppleTV MediaRemote page on your site and the AppleTV has not been updated to tvOS 14 yet.

Thanks,
Geoff


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 3:43 AM Oliver Hall <oliver.hall@...> wrote:
Hi Geoff,

What you¡¯re describing isn¡¯t (or shouldn¡¯t be!) normal.? If you can raise a ticket with support@...?we¡¯ll be able to collect info and track the issue better.

my first question would be what firmware are you running on your PRO3?

All the best,
Oliver (Ultamation)


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

I'm sure our customers that were sold an MC3 only a few months ago (before the MC4 was even available) will be delighted to know that Crestron can't be bothered to compile this firmware fix for them.

Surely Crestron could provide firmware fixes for at least 12 months after pulling a product. The things are still in warranty!


Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron

 

Yeah, the MC3 has been discontinued and the last FW was 2 years ago...
It was never fully a 3-series IMHO (sorry Toine!), though a very nice form factor...

?plareeeiybusse
Oct 23???

They didn't release an update for the MC3 processor??


Re: Ultamation AppleTV MediaRemote Version Connection Issues (after power loss)

 

Hi Geoff,

What you¡¯re describing isn¡¯t (or shouldn¡¯t be!) normal. ?If you can raise a ticket with support@...?we¡¯ll be able to collect info and track the issue better.

my first question would be what firmware are you running on your PRO3?

All the best,
Oliver (Ultamation)