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Re: LG WEB OS IP Control

kabza
 

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Have you try send WOL magic packet to turn on tv?

It is working on new series Sony, and Panasonic tvs.

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Regards

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 3:00 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RES: [Crestron] Re: LG WEB OS IP Control

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Still not.

But the main problem is that LG turn off the Ethernet port when the TV is off and we do not have an option to let it on.

At least I made a search at menu and couldn¡¯t find anything.

De: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
Enviada em: domingo, 9 de agosto de 2015 15:43
Para:
Crestron@...
Assunto: [Crestron] Re: LG WEB OS IP Control

did you get some control ?

thank you in advance


Re: When to use a cross point

 

From my years of programming experience, I can generalize when the use of crosspoints is useful.? If you do large scale residential projects, chances are, you use them, or have a need for them.? If you do commercial projects, you probably do not.

That may be over-simplistic, but I've been programming commercial for 15 years, and have never needed, or found crosspoints to be beneficial in all those jobs.? There may have been a handful of those projects that might have been borderline useful to use crosspoints, but not many.? However, I have done a few resi jobs here and there, and that is where doing the project without them would have been very difficult indeed.

The reason I see it is this...? "Typical" resi projects have multiple panels controlling various rooms in the house, and often have roaming panels to be able to be walked around the house and control each room.? You have a many to many relationship between panel, zones, and devices.? However, in commercial projects, you have maybe 1 or 2 panels, that are usually dedicated to a certain space.? The spaces in commercial tend to be one large system (rather than many little systems like resi), that have lots more displays in them, but a common set of source devices.? You don't really need crosspoints, and most of the time I've seen commercial systems programmed using crosspoints, it was overkill, a pain to debug, and felt like the original programmer was trying to use a hammer to drive in a screw (square ped/round hole etc).

I've done some large commercial jobs, but in most (almost all) cases, each room has it's own processor, is completely seperate from other rooms, and each have their own dedicated touch panels that don't roam around trying to control all the rooms in a building.

For those saying (referring to commercial projects) if you don't use crosspoints, you have dozens or more buffers instead.? What are you talking about?? No.? No you don't.? Not unless you're trying to emulate crosspoints with buffers, but that is not necessary.? The only time you would need to use a bunch of buffers is if you were trying to use the same join #'s for all your devices (like crosspoints do), but if you don't do that, you don't need to buffer anything.

-jason
www.mpsav.com


Re: When to use a cross point

 

I have a system with 2 large rooms. ?23 displays in 1 room, 23 displays and a 16 panel video wall in another. ?8 cable tuners, 4 for the video wall and 4 for overhead sound through BSS 806 for overhead sound. ?All displays are fed video from a PCO headend, hence the tuners for audio and VW. ?Quite a bit more but that is the general gist of it. ?All IP controlled.

I'm fairly new to this, so I went the buffer route because I was limited on time and needed the ability to select any or all displays and power on/off, change channel etc. and couldn't wrap my head around the xpoint system to connect and send the applicable command to each display as demanded.

Currently, if I select all displays and press the on button, all displays turn on in under a second.?

I would love to use xpoints for expansion possibilities but I'm not sure on the performance of the needed tasks .?
If I used a toggle (which enable the buffers I'm currently using), for connection to xpoints for the devices I want to change, will they connect via mutiple threads and operate the same way as the buffers? ?

I've used xpoints before and see their benefit, this one has me stumped.

I appreciate the help you peeps have afforded as I learn. ?You've been outstanding! ?Have a great weekend.



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Re: When to use a cross point

 

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I have wondered why it's only an hour and half at the end of 301 class if it is so powerful.

I would love to see a dedicated class, which I've asked for since 2012

The greatest thing I've gotten from the SW office was a technicians code showing multiple TP's to rooms & sources


Trey


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On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:09 PM, eagrubbs@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

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JUST USE XPOINTS ON BIG SYSTEMS!!!! it will make life easier. I promise. :)


Re: When to use a cross point

 

JUST USE XPOINTS ON BIG SYSTEMS!!!! it will make life easier. I promise. :)


Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

 

This is incredibly easy to do in D3, select the button and assign it to be a toggle + Dim, done.?

In SIMPL you're going to need to have more than just a toggle.?


Re: TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page

 

Have you given the page a join? If it has no join number, it will always appear.


Re: Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Make sure the module is 3 series compatible. If it isn't tested on 3 series it may be using semaphores instead of threadsafe, so a QMRMC may be the easiest solution.


Re: When to use a cross point

 

As opposed to hitting F2 only to find the signal only goes to an ecross? I'd rather wade through buffers than wade through nothingness.

On Sep 11, 2015 5:50 PM, "tim@... [Crestron]" <Crestron@...> wrote:

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There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way.? I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?


For small commercial systems, most of the time they are not necessary.? For residential or large scale commercial, they are an absolute must for organization and future expansion. ?


Re: Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Maybe the Panasonics support HTTP 1.1 (to keep a connection open) but for some reason the Crestron module is using HTTP 1.0?

Using WireShark to look at the connection details when using IE would probably be a good start.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:39 PM, bassman233@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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Has anyone had success controlling an AW-HE130 over ethernet?? This project was supposed to get an HE-120 but they were out of stock (likely discontinued) so we got the 130.? Everything appears to be the same as the HE-120 except it is POE and supports streaming.

The module for the HE-120 (and HE-60/50) controls it, but the manual controls (pan/tilt/zoom buttons) run away if pressed for less than about 2.5 seconds.? The Panasonics use HTTP for control, and I can see in debugger that the connection drops after a response, and is slow to reopen, which seems to be how it is missing the 'stop' command.? Preset store & recall works fine, which is the bulk of the use on this job, but I need to give them a way to set presets.?

The web gui for the camera works flawlessly, but only works with IE, so I'm guessing there's something going on HTTP wise there that isn't happening from the module.? I've tried digging through the module and its multiple S+ children, but i'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me.?

I can't do RS422 because the camera is POE and no room for an additional cable in the pipe (long story).?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don





Re: When to use a cross point

 

There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way. ?I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?

For small commercial systems, most of the time they are not necessary. ?For residential or large scale commercial, they are an absolute must for organization and future expansion. ?


Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Has anyone had success controlling an AW-HE130 over ethernet?? This project was supposed to get an HE-120 but they were out of stock (likely discontinued) so we got the 130.? Everything appears to be the same as the HE-120 except it is POE and supports streaming.

The module for the HE-120 (and HE-60/50) controls it, but the manual controls (pan/tilt/zoom buttons) run away if pressed for less than about 2.5 seconds.? The Panasonics use HTTP for control, and I can see in debugger that the connection drops after a response, and is slow to reopen, which seems to be how it is missing the 'stop' command.? Preset store & recall works fine, which is the bulk of the use on this job, but I need to give them a way to set presets.?

The web gui for the camera works flawlessly, but only works with IE, so I'm guessing there's something going on HTTP wise there that isn't happening from the module.? I've tried digging through the module and its multiple S+ children, but i'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me.?

I can't do RS422 because the camera is POE and no room for an additional cable in the pipe (long story).?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don




TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page

 

Hi there,


I am having an issue where I have a subpage for?Single setpoint control on?thermostat CHV-TSTAT and everytime that i upload my files to the mc3 or the screen goes on standby and i wake the screen, the Subpage for the Single setpoint control appears in the middle of screen by itself. Does anyone have any idea why tis is happening? I have already made it invisible on my VTPro.

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Re: When to use a cross point

Andrew Welker
 

Keep in mind that all your touchpanel page logic could be on the to side of the crosspoint, that way touchpanel can operate independently, but still show the same feedback information depending on what equipment it is controlling.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 4:47 PM?kris.k@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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With crosspoints, it was super easy to set up a client with 13 ipad minis, all able to roam and be selected to control any room in the house.? Without crosspoints, this would take a huge amount of signals. ?


I started seeing the benefits when they started incorporating the xpoints into the hardware interface symbols, and the example programs.


Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

Andrew Welker
 

As a taco on to Oliver's note, don't use a & in the room name of the Fusion room symbol. It makes the Fusion Symbol discovery process choke and die. Basically, avoid '&' anywhere it might possibly be put into an XML file, since Crestron apparently doesn't escape them correctly in any situation.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 4:38 PM?oliver.hall@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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A bit OT, but in a similar vein, when creating custom themes, DO NOT use '&' in the theme file name.

VTPro will do some very odd things like not show?the first instance of a?subpage...

It's an issue with VTPro, rather than the theme, and this is true for themes created in Studio as well as, err, other theme editing software products.


Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

 

I just downloaded the CLX-1DIM8 Module from the Files folder and what I did was used a Toggle symbol to toggle from raise to lower and is working now. The other problem i am having now is that it only dims, if i press the button once, the lights will not turn on or off. I have to hold every time I want it to turn on.?


Re: D3 Pro not loading

 

You nailed it! I opened SIMPL, set userDB back to default folder and D3 works. Don't get why it's fine on my laptop but won't work with different folder on desktop all of a sudden.

Thanks for your help!!


Re: When to use a cross point

 

With crosspoints, it was super easy to set up a client with 13 ipad minis, all able to roam and be selected to control any room in the house. ?Without crosspoints, this would take a huge amount of signals. ?

I started seeing the benefits when they started incorporating the xpoints into the hardware interface symbols, and the example programs.


Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

 

Hello Keith, I am working in SIMPL


Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

 

A bit OT, but in a similar vein, when creating custom themes, DO NOT use '&' in the theme file name.

VTPro will do some very odd things like not show?the first instance of a?subpage...

It's an issue with VTPro, rather than the theme, and this is true for themes created in Studio as well as, err, other theme editing software products.