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Ok so probably a dumb question....but I'm full of them lately. Working on a clients system that seems to be having a lot of dumb errors. In order to track them better i would like to record the error log of the system to a compact flash card then erase the error log. this will allow me to organize the errors a little better. from what i have researched thus far it is accomplish-able through simpl+, just don't know how. I appreciate any feedback you can give me.

What do you have to do to get Simpl to create the zip file archive? I have tried numerous things with no luck.

The best way I can think of would be to create a level window block and place it between the volume control and the Biamp block. The level window's min/max signals can be tied to user controls on the admin page. Then set the Biamp block's min/maxes either wide open or to some reasonable level that keeps the client from blowing up the system. The advantage to creating an intermediary block is that you can drop in updates to the Biamp block without screwing up your min/max logic.

-Alex McLain

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Why? is what I asked to when I first heard of it. Some consultant in the NY area whom I won't mention has sold the customer the idea of setting min/max levels for each of their program audio sources.

I'm currently learning Simpl Windows, and I'm now trying to implement dynamic presets on a PLX3. I've always used SystemBuilder, so I tried opening the Simpl file generated by SystemBuilder and copying (to the best of my ability) exactly what was there.

I can't seem to get it to work. I know there are two modules involved: ext_DynamicPresets v1.2, and Dynamic Presets PLX3 GUI Interface. I have connected the signals and the crosspoint, but there are some issues.

The default preset names are not showing up, i.e PRE1, PRE2, and so on. If I press and hold on a preset, it does bring me to the edit page but instead of the three options that should be there (Channel List, Edit Name, and Edit Channel), only Channel List shows up.

One of the issues that is working against me is the fact that when I open up the SystemBuilder-built interface for the PLX3, I can't open up the list portion of the pages dealing with presets. Not sure why this is so.

Has anyone worked with these modules before? I feel like I'm close to getting it to work, I just need a bit of help to get it going perfectly.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks,

Michael D'Angelo

I haven't used a Toshiba in a while. Do they have decent discrete support? I kinda recall them not.

Thanks guys. I'll try it next week when I go back.

Heath

On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Kevin Keenan <kevinfkeenan@...> wrote:

Nope. I have lots of models, but not the outdoor CP series. I think the Toshiba guess is viable. The remote with number buttons at the top and the onscreen menu all remind me of Toshiba.

-Kevin

On Aug 12, 2013, at 16:42, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Yeah, I have those codes, but I neither have a helper to pull out the TV nor the cable / connectors to do the serial connection. :-(

Thanks, Heath

On Aug 12, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote:

I'm guessing you need the IR code and not RS-232. The serial protocol is listed on pages 33-35 of the manual; let me know if you need it (HDMI1 = 0X67). I'm not installing Pronto either!

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:18 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] Runco CP-42 Codes

Does anyone have codes for the Runco CP42 - specifically the HDMI1 code? Even in hex form? Some genius made the HDMI button a toggle. I have the Pronto driver, but I'd rather not have to install the Pronto software just to grab one code.

Thanks, Heath

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO



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The one I have done I used relays. It takes 3 relays to control the shades and depending on what relays are tripped at the same time as to which preset is called. You have: full open, full closed, 75%, 50%, 25%. We couldn't get to the comport of the controller, so we tapped into the cat5 that went to the KP, so we had to do the relay method.

I think we should look at moving this forum to Google groups or a better
platform. :-)

Set your clocks.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM, paulp1m <paulp@...> wrote:

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Another point of view? This article is 4 years old, and it seems to
contradict the consensus thus far in this thread.





--- In Crestron@..., "connectprogrammingltd" <c.cottam@...>
wrote:

Interesting reading from US counterparts, but I think for clarity that

it's important to throw this in from the UK perspective:

The following is from the UK Intellectual Property Office website:
--------------
"When you ask or commission another person or organisation to create a

copyright work for you, the first legal owner of copyright is the person or
organisation that created the work and not you the commissioner, unless you
otherwise agree it in writing.

However, in some circumstances, for example when copyright is not dealt

with in the contract to commission the work, Courts may be willing to find
that there is an implied licence from the contractor to the commissioner so
that the commissioner is able to use that work for the purpose for which it
was commissioned. This does not necessarily result in a transfer of
ownership. Instead, the company commissioning the work may only get a
limited non-exclusive licence. This situation demonstrates the importance
of establishing who owns copyright through a contract."

--------------
So from what I've been reading, in the UK it's the opposite to the US -

the programmer is the sole owner of the code unless explicitly specified in
a contract, although there is some protection from the client with implied
licensing.

CC.

--- In Crestron@..., "Christopher" <crncrussell@> wrote:

I'll try to stay off my soapbox this time and just say that Lincoln

nailed it. Those of you that know me, know that I am very vocal on this
subject. We are, I think, the only remaining industry producing software
that this debate continuously comes up. And that's not a good thing.

I will point anyone who'd like a good read on this subject over to

Chip German's website where he encapsulated my thoughts last time I was on
my soap box.

It's a good read (I know, I wrote it...) and may make some of you

realize that the way you are running your businesses may actually be
breaking the law (hint: can't sell the same car to two people). Not meant
as a slam to anyone; I just don't think people realise what a fine line
they may be walking.

Floyd pointed out a general list of "work for hire" criteria. If you

are an employee you fall under branch 1. If you are a "contractual
programmer," the first 2 items in branch 2 apply. This is a huge trap
that's very easy to avoid. It's as simple as spelling out in your contract
that you are not operating as a work for hire.

Lastly, I'll end with one thought before my flight: with rare

exception, unless your a one man show (salesman/tech/engineer/programmer,
etc.) or working directly for the end user, there are a lot more factors
involved in getting invited "back to the table" than the quality of your
code and how happy you personally made the end user. The end user may love
you and your work, but if they don't like the dealer who sold them the
system, if they don't like the smell of the techs who pulled the cable,
they get a great deal from another dealer, whatever..., the best programmer
in the world may not be playing on round two. I'll remind everyone that we
are in the systems integration industry, and our code is just part of those
systems- it may be the most used/visible part, but its still just a part of
a whole.

Ok, I guess I did get on my soap box a little bit... Flights boarding:

off to a month in Hawaii!

- cdr



--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@> wrote:

How do you guys handles code requests by clients? We know from the

questions being asked and the specific requests being made that the client
is asking for it for another dealer. I've heard both sides of the coin "we
don't give out code" "the code belongs to the client", so I'm just
wondering how the group as a whole deals with situations like this

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Why?? I created some biamp modules that you can set min/max from the parameters so they could be used for spk vol or tx/rx/mic levels, but why would an end user need to be able to change those min/max points? It really sounds like potential headaches and if they are on levelers for mic gains then the potential for a lot of fb.

Nope. I have lots of models, but not the outdoor CP series. I think the Toshiba guess is viable. The remote with number buttons at the top and the onscreen menu all remind me of Toshiba.

-Kevin

Nope. Time to either roll your own modules or take apart the I2P modules and see if it's feasible/possible to substitute analog values where they are using parameters...

- Chip

I think this is a Toshiba.....if my memory is right.

Try those for a last ditch effort.

Chris
On Aug 12, 2013 3:18 PM, "Heath Volmer" <hvolmer@...> wrote:

**


Does anyone have codes for the Runco CP42 - specifically the HDMI1 code?
Even in hex form? Some genius made the HDMI button a toggle. I have the
Pronto driver, but I'd rather not have to install the Pronto software just
to grab one code.

Thanks, Heath

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

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Interesting article. However, hardly an apples to apples comparison as in must cases in our industry there is only one developer of the software, either the employee of the dealer or the CSP.

The main question in our industry is not which developer maintains ownership of the code but rather if the end user client has rights to ownership of the code by commissioning its development.
On 2013-08-12, at 3:04 PM, "paulp1m" <paulp@...> wrote:

Another point of view? This article is 4 years old, and it seems to contradict the consensus thus far in this thread.



--- In Crestron@..., "connectprogrammingltd" <c.cottam@...> wrote:

Interesting reading from US counterparts, but I think for clarity that it's important to throw this in from the UK perspective:

The following is from the UK Intellectual Property Office website:
--------------
"When you ask or commission another person or organisation to create a copyright work for you, the first legal owner of copyright is the person or organisation that created the work and not you the commissioner, unless you otherwise agree it in writing.

However, in some circumstances, for example when copyright is not dealt with in the contract to commission the work, Courts may be willing to find that there is an implied licence from the contractor to the commissioner so that the commissioner is able to use that work for the purpose for which it was commissioned. This does not necessarily result in a transfer of ownership. Instead, the company commissioning the work may only get a limited non-exclusive licence. This situation demonstrates the importance of establishing who owns copyright through a contract."
--------------
So from what I've been reading, in the UK it's the opposite to the US - the programmer is the sole owner of the code unless explicitly specified in a contract, although there is some protection from the client with implied licensing.

CC.

--- In Crestron@..., "Christopher" <crncrussell@> wrote:

I'll try to stay off my soapbox this time and just say that Lincoln nailed it. Those of you that know me, know that I am very vocal on this subject. We are, I think, the only remaining industry producing software that this debate continuously comes up. And that's not a good thing.

I will point anyone who'd like a good read on this subject over to Chip German's website where he encapsulated my thoughts last time I was on my soap box.


It's a good read (I know, I wrote it...) and may make some of you realize that the way you are running your businesses may actually be breaking the law (hint: can't sell the same car to two people). Not meant as a slam to anyone; I just don't think people realise what a fine line they may be walking.

Floyd pointed out a general list of "work for hire" criteria. If you are an employee you fall under branch 1. If you are a "contractual programmer," the first 2 items in branch 2 apply. This is a huge trap that's very easy to avoid. It's as simple as spelling out in your contract that you are not operating as a work for hire.

Lastly, I'll end with one thought before my flight: with rare exception, unless your a one man show (salesman/tech/engineer/programmer, etc.) or working directly for the end user, there are a lot more factors involved in getting invited "back to the table" than the quality of your code and how happy you personally made the end user. The end user may love you and your work, but if they don't like the dealer who sold them the system, if they don't like the smell of the techs who pulled the cable, they get a great deal from another dealer, whatever..., the best programmer in the world may not be playing on round two. I'll remind everyone that we are in the systems integration industry, and our code is just part of those systems- it may be the most used/visible part, but its still just a part of a whole.

Ok, I guess I did get on my soap box a little bit... Flights boarding: off to a month in Hawaii!

- cdr



--- In Crestron@..., "Gregg M" <jets_in_2003@> wrote:

How do you guys handles code requests by clients? We know from the questions being asked and the specific requests being made that the client is asking for it for another dealer. I've heard both sides of the coin "we don't give out code" "the code belongs to the client", so I'm just wondering how the group as a whole deals with situations like this

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I may actually have these. Give me 15min to check.

-Kevin

Just to clarify my question, customer wants to set the min/max values on the fly from an admin page. I understand that static values can be typed in the module parameter fields but what about a changing analog signal?

Try this...

0000 006d 0022 0002 0156 00ac 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0040 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 0015 06af 0156 0055 0015 0e61

Sad that I know far too much about these "devices." There are a number of varieties of shades you can control via their Swiss made IQ-45. All outputs via RF-12 are in fact relays. Up/down/Stop and Preset-half. You then have 2 outputs for RJ-485, one for RS-232 and one for IR.

Most of their 24v motors can only be controlled via relay--or via RF. What you can do indeed is determined by the programming. I have their addressing software on some computer. It is easy protocol to write, but I found their com port locks up very easily. There is NO feedback. Enjoy making the custom serial interface cable, particularly if you have issues communicating to their system. I believe 00 is all shade respond; something useful to know if you're trying to establish communication

I have project coming up which involves some very unusual programming scope. One of the things customer wants is to be able to set the minimum and maximum value allowed for volume control for each device. Since the Biamp 7.4 Level control module uses parameters for min/max, what would be best way to edit to make it work in my scenario? Is there a way to allow the parameters to pass an analog signal name as opposed to an actual value? Any help is appreciated from the group.

I didn't even think to look in CCP but, not having a URC remote on site, I'm not sure how I would get the commands into Crestron-land.

1-way serial still depends on me having help and connectors. I'm starting to wonder if the codes even exist... Stupid Runco for not including them.

On Aug 12, 2013, at 4:51 PM, eagrubbs <eagrubbs@...> wrote:

1-way serial? If not then try URC or RTI databases.

--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Yeah, I have those codes, but I neither have a helper to pull out the TV nor the cable / connectors to do the serial connection. :-(

Thanks, Heath

On Aug 12, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote:

I'm guessing you need the IR code and not RS-232. The serial protocol is listed on pages 33-35 of the manual; let me know if you need it (HDMI1 = 0X67). I'm not installing Pronto either!

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:18 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] Runco CP-42 Codes

Does anyone have codes for the Runco CP42 - specifically the HDMI1 code? Even in hex form? Some genius made the HDMI button a toggle. I have the Pronto driver, but I'd rather not have to install the Pronto software just to grab one code.

Thanks, Heath

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

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