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How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness鈥�.

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No, it's actually not pretty cool.

Knowing the difference between IR and RS-232 protocols is the very basic function of the control systems we are programming. You should know this from day 1.

This used to be taught in the Basic class. In order for you to take your cert test, you have to go through 3 classes, Basic, Intermediate and Advanced. It's very hard to believe you made it through all of this not knowing. Actually, someone should probably have a basic understanding of this before even taking the basic class. Either you weren't paying attention or the instructor was lacking. I don't think it was the instructor. This isn't something I would be proud of.

Let's say you picked a different TV for your test. One that had a module readily available and you didn't have to ask your question. You then somehow passed the test and became certified. Your now sitting there with the client trying to program his new TV by sending IR into the RS-232 connection. It's not working and your trying different things, making phone calls, posting questions and taking days to try and control a simple TV.

The client looks at you with a bewildered look on his face and you just shrug your shoulders and say "I don't know why it's not working".
The client says to your boss, I thought you guys were certified by Crestron. Boy these crestron systems suck.Your the kind of programmer that makes crestron systems look bad.

No, it's not pretty cool at all.

--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:

If not the wrong way, how else could this be taken?

I don't program 24/7 or anything close to that, so yes I did make it through the cert course without knowing this. Pretty cool, huh?

Thanks for the vote of confidence.



--- In Crestron@..., "Ted" <ted_brincka@> wrote:

Don't take this the wrong way, but you actually made it all the way to taking the cert exam thinking that IR codes can just be translated to 232? Wow!

--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:

Sorry for the confusion Chip. I thought that IR codes could be easily converted to rs232 serial commands. I have now learned thanks to you and others that they are not they same.

I was able to find the serial commands in the Files section, and there was also a module that might be useful as well.

Thanks for the input.



--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

Your posts are very confusing. (Or it's just been a long day. Or both)

You mention that you want to use RS232 control, but then you talk about capturing IR codes and using an IR bud. Not the same thing.

RS232 control would be using the DB-9 connector on the display and connecting it to a COM port on your processor. No IR. No buds.

There are at least two PFM series RS232 modules already in the SIMPL windows library. There's a decent chance one of them will get you at least power control of the unit, so I'd suggest looking at the documentation for one of the modules and fashioning up an RS232 cable...

If none of those modules work, I'm afraid your best bet to find the RS-232 commands (did I mention these have nothing to do with IR?) would be to call Sony and see if you are lucky enough to find a tech that's willing to dig them out for you.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:

New to this forum, or maybe a long time since my last post. I am working on one of my certification programs and have plasma display that is not listed in the Crestron DB. I managed to capture the IR commands from the remote using the Crestron IR learner, but I need to convert the commands from IR to rs232 since the cert instructions call for rs232 control instead of IR.

I entered the IR codes via the Tx signal to see if they work the way I thought they should be entered into a Serial I/O, but they aren't working. The power_cycle code is 0x010F, and I entered it into the Tx signal as &#92;x00x010F&#92;x03 and the plasma does not turn on.

I guess I am just missing how to enter the command into the serial I/O param. I tried "0x101F", but that doesn't do anything either.

I haven't tried connecting an IR bud to make sure they even work that way, but they seem to be the same as another model that is listed in the database.

Ah, I just saw the bit about Geoffrey Reynold's conversion program. I will try that and see how that works.



--- In Crestron@..., "davestaud" <DaveStaud@> wrote:

I think this belongs in the "Connecting Devices" section...

=================================================================

Q: Where can I find Crestron IR codes for a <brand> <model> ?
A: Discrete codes for most brands that support them, can usually be
found in the Crestron Database -- search by Manufacturer, then look
in the "Generic", "Multiple", or "UnClassified" folders.

Also, most devices will respond to IR drivers for similar models
within the same brand -- ie., the driver for the Mitsubishi HSU-780
will probably work with the 580.

The Remote Central web site has IR codes for a large number of
devices, in Philips Pronto format (see
).
Pronto-style codes can be converted into Crestron format by either of
two pieces of software: 1) Crestron's "Driver Editor And Learner for
Windows" (aka DEAL) can import Pronto-style codes one at a time, or
2) group member Geoffrey Reynolds has written an excellent utility
program that will convert an entire set of Pronto codes (embodied in
a .ccf file) into a Crestron IR driver in one step (see
for details)

Please don't ask the group for IR drivers until you've tried all of
the above -- it's generally considered rude to ask others to do
research that you should be doing for yourself.

=================================================================

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.

Sent from my iPhone

Can anyone explain why a project vtz in Core 3 1.12.29 compiles at 4 MB, but that same
project in 1.13.15 compiles to more than 10 MB? Did I somehow gain 6MB worth of
performance-enhancing goodness? I see some files in the vtz that are considerably larger...

I've seen this happen before after "updating". I was having a decent-enough 2-day Core 3 period...

Heath

For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

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For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

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Thanks for all the input. My application is a small city govt that has to record meetings.

They occasionally have laptop presentations that would need to appear on the recordings. Does this aspect of the system work well? My idea is to have the secretary control the system via a touch panel. He/she would be responsible for actuating then PC input as needed.

Is this a reasonable application for this product?

Thanks again.


--- In Crestron@..., Steve Robinson <stever101010@> wrote:

My main issue is that you can't record and stream at the same time so you are unable to use the TSW(for example) as a confidence monitor. 茂驴陆You can set it up but the minute you hit record....it's gone. 茂驴陆Then you need to run it out of the HDMI Out to a flat panel for a confidence monitor which causes more cost and less real estate on a instructor's podium. 茂驴陆I was told future firmware may accommodate that.


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From: eagrubbs <eagrubbs@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:47 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Capture Live HD


The main issue I have with it is you cannot playback from it. If that feature could be added it would be a lot better. Easy to control. Setting up the IPT/z or whatever part # that sony camera is, sucks if you go by the manual. I had to download some sony software to set it up so I could set up the stream to the panels. my .01

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

What are you looking for -- programming? End user? Sales?

It's stupid easy to program basic functionality, though some aspects require more reading of the tea leaves in the help file than I'd like but for your first time there's enough to build a framework that gets you to a point where you don't waste much time onsite.

Setting a static IP via the front panel is a PITA until you realize that DHCP (completely different menu) has to be turned off for before a static IP will "stick" & the one time I tried using one in "Streaming" mode (I had some time to kill on a jobsite) I don't recall it working well, again that was only one time, and every CaptureHD I've done has been used in "Record" mode/as a VCR replacement -- e.g. user plugs their USB drive in, hits record, at end of meeting hits stop and take the drive with them.

Using a composite video camera input in the 2010s feels dirty to me and, it seems, most of my clients as well. As a result, every CaptureHD I've deployed has been the CaptureHD Pro (which accepts Composite or HD-SDI camera inputs; about 75% of them are using HD-SDI now, the remainder for future resistance) but I assume the differences between the two are not that great aside from that.

HTH,

Lincoln

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Gerard
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:14 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Capture Live HD

Opinions on this?

Thanks.



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Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

Hello,

I've been trying for hours to integrate MPEG4 streaming into Crestron Mobile Pro G. Theorically, website says "Streaming MPEG video viewer" in the specs sheet.

I was unlucky to find any support either from Online Help and Crestron in Spain about it... they redirect me to the old mjpeg solution. I've been trying it with:
-Acti IP camera
-Aver IP camera
-VLC streaming

no lucky at all... meanwhile, TSW displays excellent H264/MPEG4 video quality (through rstp)

I'm not sure if Mobile Pro G can accept RSTP protocol, I've tried also a walkaround solution to stream H.264 through http not rstp but was not lucky either.


If someone could provide some light to this...

Kind regards,

Javier Maz贸n