Wow!! Calm down man. I in fact did know the difference between IR and serial. I was merely trying to find out if there was a way to convert one signal from one to the other. If you read my original post you see that is what I am asking and not what the difference is between IR and serial.
You need to loosen up a bit. You don't even know what my situation is, or where I work or my experience with Crestron. Just to satisfy your curiosity, I am not even going to submit for my certification so you won't have to worry about me taking any possible work from you. Okay!
It just a simple question, sorry to have ruffled your feathers.
Jeez!!!
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--- In Crestron@..., "Ted" <ted_brincka@...> wrote:
No, it's actually not pretty cool.
Knowing the difference between IR and RS-232 protocols is the very basic function of the control systems we are programming. You should know this from day 1.
This used to be taught in the Basic class. In order for you to take your cert test, you have to go through 3 classes, Basic, Intermediate and Advanced. It's very hard to believe you made it through all of this not knowing. Actually, someone should probably have a basic understanding of this before even taking the basic class. Either you weren't paying attention or the instructor was lacking. I don't think it was the instructor. This isn't something I would be proud of.
Let's say you picked a different TV for your test. One that had a module readily available and you didn't have to ask your question. You then somehow passed the test and became certified. Your now sitting there with the client trying to program his new TV by sending IR into the RS-232 connection. It's not working and your trying different things, making phone calls, posting questions and taking days to try and control a simple TV.
The client looks at you with a bewildered look on his face and you just shrug your shoulders and say "I don't know why it's not working".
The client says to your boss, I thought you guys were certified by Crestron. Boy these crestron systems suck.Your the kind of programmer that makes crestron systems look bad.
No, it's not pretty cool at all.
--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:
If not the wrong way, how else could this be taken?
I don't program 24/7 or anything close to that, so yes I did make it through the cert course without knowing this. Pretty cool, huh?
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
--- In Crestron@..., "Ted" <ted_brincka@> wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but you actually made it all the way to taking the cert exam thinking that IR codes can just be translated to 232? Wow!
--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:
Sorry for the confusion Chip. I thought that IR codes could be easily converted to rs232 serial commands. I have now learned thanks to you and others that they are not they same.
I was able to find the serial commands in the Files section, and there was also a module that might be useful as well.
Thanks for the input.
--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:
Your posts are very confusing. (Or it's just been a long day. Or both)
You mention that you want to use RS232 control, but then you talk about capturing IR codes and using an IR bud. Not the same thing.
RS232 control would be using the DB-9 connector on the display and connecting it to a COM port on your processor. No IR. No buds.
There are at least two PFM series RS232 modules already in the SIMPL windows library. There's a decent chance one of them will get you at least power control of the unit, so I'd suggest looking at the documentation for one of the modules and fashioning up an RS232 cable...
If none of those modules work, I'm afraid your best bet to find the RS-232 commands (did I mention these have nothing to do with IR?) would be to call Sony and see if you are lucky enough to find a tech that's willing to dig them out for you.
- Chip
--- In Crestron@..., "jhuerta2803" <jav-gen@> wrote:
New to this forum, or maybe a long time since my last post. I am working on one of my certification programs and have plasma display that is not listed in the Crestron DB. I managed to capture the IR commands from the remote using the Crestron IR learner, but I need to convert the commands from IR to rs232 since the cert instructions call for rs232 control instead of IR.
I entered the IR codes via the Tx signal to see if they work the way I thought they should be entered into a Serial I/O, but they aren't working. The power_cycle code is 0x010F, and I entered it into the Tx signal as \x00x010F\x03 and the plasma does not turn on.
I guess I am just missing how to enter the command into the serial I/O param. I tried "0x101F", but that doesn't do anything either.
I haven't tried connecting an IR bud to make sure they even work that way, but they seem to be the same as another model that is listed in the database.
Ah, I just saw the bit about Geoffrey Reynold's conversion program. I will try that and see how that works.
--- In Crestron@..., "davestaud" <DaveStaud@> wrote:
I think this belongs in the "Connecting Devices" section...
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Q: Where can I find Crestron IR codes for a <brand> <model> ?
A: Discrete codes for most brands that support them, can usually be
found in the Crestron Database -- search by Manufacturer, then look
in the "Generic", "Multiple", or "UnClassified" folders.
Also, most devices will respond to IR drivers for similar models
within the same brand -- ie., the driver for the Mitsubishi HSU-780
will probably work with the 580.
The Remote Central web site has IR codes for a large number of
devices, in Philips Pronto format (see
).
Pronto-style codes can be converted into Crestron format by either of
two pieces of software: 1) Crestron's "Driver Editor And Learner for
Windows" (aka DEAL) can import Pronto-style codes one at a time, or
2) group member Geoffrey Reynolds has written an excellent utility
program that will convert an entire set of Pronto codes (embodied in
a .ccf file) into a Crestron IR driver in one step (see
for details)
Please don't ask the group for IR drivers until you've tried all of
the above -- it's generally considered rude to ask others to do
research that you should be doing for yourself.
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