Re: crestron mobile versus command fusion
I think I was in the seminar with you Jon. I would've thought that the setting for Auto-reconnect would be for those who have multiple systems to connect to. I have been testing with the latest version of the app in my house, and it definitely still becomes disconnected eventually, resulting in unlocking the ipad and seeing the setup screen. I just spent an hour digging through posts about this issue.
Has anyone found a workaround that works 100%? The app has come very far since it's release, but this is a major disadvantage. I think it should never kick you out to the setup screen (like the remote, or sonos app). Anyone know if Control4 or Savant's iPad apps have a similar problem? :)
Casey
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--- In Crestron@..., Jon Spackman <fueler1@...> wrote:
Hi Fabio,
Is this behavior you describe with the latest app, the one that came out a week or ago? I spoke to the Crestron mobile guy at the Cypress opening and he assured me that the do want the ipad app to work well and are continuing to refine it. ( i even saw a demo of a version that had fancy scrolling that has that little box in the scroll bar like an ipad or iphone has). Anyhow, they told me the wakeup on the setup page was done on purpose so that people who need their ipad to work on two systems ( like on their boat, and later at their home) have a way to chnage projects.
I disagreed and told them to give us a menu option, something like Multi-site install ON or OFF.
Anyhow talking with them it seems they do care and are doing their best, but its slow progress obviously. I have never used CF so cant comment on that.
But i just wanted to tell others that the wake on setup was done on urpose to allow mutli sites for a single ipad. Stupid!
Sent from my iPad
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If there are any lurkers, I spent a little time on it today and it seems like I'm receiving a different prompt than the Crestron module. The Crestron module shows you should receive VBrick> and I receive VBrick#. I realize this may mean I'm logged into the wrong 'account' or something like that so I have two questions that might help.
1) Does a special account need to be setup for Crestron for control, or just login the general admin account?
2) Is there any setup for the serial port, or just leave it 'disabled', meaning not a responder or initiator.
Thanks all!
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I'm using the module on the Crestron site, have called VBrick and they say the SDK is the same across the encoder line, the guy setting up the VBrick says it's setup properly...I'm stuck in the middle. :)
I've used the module on other devices and it's been fine, so I'm thinking something isn't setup right, but want to cover all my bases.
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
In debugger the browse strings just show up as <empty> I used the "substring with empty string pass" symbol as suggested by Tony and for the moment just threw a 1 and 5 in the parameter fields. It appeared to be working, but I put myself in a loop when I rebooted, since the unit starts up with empty browse lines. I'll have to add some more logic to it tomorrow. Thanks guys. ________________________________ From: Crestron@... on behalf of highfidelityinc Sent: Mon 4/2/2012 5:19 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question If the MMS-2 is truely putting out a \x00 instead of a \x01\x00, then that is a firmware bug in the MMS-2 IHMO. But I did not see that Heather specificially say that in her original email. --- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
Perhaps "zero-length string" is the more appropriate description. (\x00 would still be a 1-length string)
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of erikm_101
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
is not lack of data, also data? ergo data with no bytes?
--- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@> wrote:
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
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From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the
following work work.
1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would
convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You
would then look for an analog zero on the output.
2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input
buffer.
3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But
it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on
this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most
iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it
might work.
Steve
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Heather Baiman" <heather@> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
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Re: TPMC 8x hard button stiff
WD-40 will degrade the plastic. I would remove the battery, wet a q-tip with rubbing alcohol and use that. If you feel you need more fluid have some rice in a cloth bag handy and press that up against the buttons after wetting. That will pull the moisture out right away.
I used this same process to restore my brand new HP HDX18 laptop that got an entire cup of black coffee spilled down the keyboard at masters in 2011 lol. Some of you might remember that moment....
That laptop is still running strong today!
-Neil Dorin
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On 2012-04-02, at 4:14 PM, ktrdsl23 <ktrdsl23@...> wrote: It didn't appear to be an issue with the battery. I'm wondering if I just
drip a little bit of WD-40 into the cracks around the button if that would
clean up the area without doing any damage to the controller itself.
Anybody have a better suggestion?
I'm not really all that interested in trying to contact a dealer as the
cost of the controller itself was probably less than it would be to work
with somebody to try and get it fixed.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:03 PM, northeast_marcus
<northeastmarcus@...>wrote:
**
This happens with all of the 8x batteries after a while. Just like most
rechargeable batteries, they technically should be taken off the charger
once they are fully charged, and not charged again until they are low.
Keeping them on a constant charge causes the swelling issue.
--- In Crestron@..., ktrdsl23 <ktrdsl23@...> wrote:
I've been away from home this weekend but should be able to take a look
tomorrow or Tuesday and I'll report back. It sounds like if it is a
battery problem that it will stop being stiff after taking out the
battery? This controller has both an internal battery and the external
extended battery so I guess I need to remove both.
Does anybody have a link where I can read more about this "swollen"
battery
issue? Is that common from all batteries or just the cheap generic ones
sold through ebay?
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Tony Golden <mrgolden@...> wrote:
**
That's all I've ever seen it affect too, but it was worth looking into.
It really sounds like the contacts or circuit board are dirty, since
they
work
for a while before getting "stuck" again.
--- On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, frog_av wrote:
--- In Crestron@..., "Jonny" <ComeAlive@> wrote:
I thought the swollen battery only affected the 4 buttons across
the
bottom?
I took the battery out of mine and Velcro'd it to the base,
essentially making it a tabletop model. J
Shoot, sorry. Didn't read the original post closely enough. Yes, you
are
right. At least, that's all I've ever seen it affect.
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Re: D3 Pro 3.0.31 Scheduler Broken?
So did I.
Nevertheless I see some "previous driving source" errors.
That may be related to the new scenes feature I've been using.
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Le 3 avr. 2012 ¨¤ 00:01, "tres n3L" <tres@...> a ¨¦crit : I was told that an option is to go back in my database. I was also told that
engineering is aware of the issue and is working hard on a fix. anything
else I was told I am not at liberty to share. besides, it has no bearing on
the issue at hand.
I just rolled back my database today, reloaded, and everything from the
scheduler works as intended.
:)
tres
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of mehuneau
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:57 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: D3 Pro 3.0.31 Scheduler Broken?
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "tres
n3L" <tres@...> wrote:
no I was not told this.
Come on spit it out !
I hate when that kind of thing happen.
Rollback to the previous database is the fix ?
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Is there anyone out there interested in 4 ea. DMC-VID-RCA-D's? These units are actually brand new, they were purcased as part of a complete DM-MD8x8 unit and had to be switched out with the DMC-VID-RCA-A's once the system was installed due to combatibility issues with the clients equipment. If you are interested in them, they will actually be shipped to you in the box's that the replacement DMC-VID-RCA-A's were shipped in from Crestron. I am interested in selling them or trading them, I just dont want them to go to waste. Here is a list of items that I am looking for.
CNX-PAD8A
DM-MD6x4
DM-RMC-100-C
Any CLW-DIM1's in white
Any CLW-DIM1RF's (non-ex version) in white
Thanks,
DAVE
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Re: TPMC 8x hard button stiff
WD-40 is likely to damage the plastic. It needs to be non petroleum based.
Sorry I don't have any more than this. I'm not sure what you should use
just not something that might melt the plastic.
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM, ktrdsl23 <ktrdsl23@...> wrote: It didn't appear to be an issue with the battery. I'm wondering if I just
drip a little bit of WD-40 into the cracks around the button if that would
clean up the area without doing any damage to the controller itself.
Anybody have a better suggestion?
I'm not really all that interested in trying to contact a dealer as the
cost of the controller itself was probably less than it would be to work
with somebody to try and get it fixed.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:03 PM, northeast_marcus
<northeastmarcus@...>wrote:
**
This happens with all of the 8x batteries after a while. Just like most
rechargeable batteries, they technically should be taken off the charger
once they are fully charged, and not charged again until they are low.
Keeping them on a constant charge causes the swelling issue.
--- In Crestron@..., ktrdsl23 <ktrdsl23@...> wrote:
I've been away from home this weekend but should be able to take a look
tomorrow or Tuesday and I'll report back. It sounds like if it is a
battery problem that it will stop being stiff after taking out the
battery? This controller has both an internal battery and the external
extended battery so I guess I need to remove both.
Does anybody have a link where I can read more about this "swollen"
battery
issue? Is that common from all batteries or just the cheap generic ones
sold through ebay?
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Tony Golden <mrgolden@...> wrote:
**
That's all I've ever seen it affect too, but it was worth looking
into.
It really sounds like the contacts or circuit board are dirty, since
they
work
for a while before getting "stuck" again.
--- On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, frog_av wrote:
--- In Crestron@..., "Jonny" <ComeAlive@> wrote:
I thought the swollen battery only affected the 4 buttons across
the
bottom?
I took the battery out of mine and Velcro'd it to the base,
essentially making it a tabletop model. J
Shoot, sorry. Didn't read the original post closely enough. Yes,
you
are
right. At least, that's all I've ever seen it affect.
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Dnav Object/ source scrolling list on Ipad
hey everyone, Am new in the group, been programming for about a year on SIMPL Windows, I have done couples of Ipads but this new client the company who contracted my services sold the In Wall Cradle and had to re do my layouts for rotation gesture. Now this customer have a lot of sources and would be good for this job to do that type of scrolling list that the Ipad demo have, I already installed Dnav object but trying to figure it out how to put my own icons and gestures. thanks so much for any help on this!!
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Crestron Dealer Supported Forum
Yahoo Crestron group is fantastic but, as a Crestron dealer, we thought we'd start our own. It may or may not be better for communicating questions, ideas and solutions. Time will tell. You are invited to join.
Thank you,
AVDomotics
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Re: TPMC 8x hard button stiff
It didn't appear to be an issue with the battery. I'm wondering if I just drip a little bit of WD-40 into the cracks around the button if that would clean up the area without doing any damage to the controller itself. Anybody have a better suggestion? I'm not really all that interested in trying to contact a dealer as the cost of the controller itself was probably less than it would be to work with somebody to try and get it fixed. On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 7:03 PM, northeast_marcus <northeastmarcus@...>wrote: **
This happens with all of the 8x batteries after a while. Just like most
rechargeable batteries, they technically should be taken off the charger
once they are fully charged, and not charged again until they are low.
Keeping them on a constant charge causes the swelling issue.
--- In Crestron@..., ktrdsl23 <ktrdsl23@...> wrote:
I've been away from home this weekend but should be able to take a look
tomorrow or Tuesday and I'll report back. It sounds like if it is a
battery problem that it will stop being stiff after taking out the
battery? This controller has both an internal battery and the external
extended battery so I guess I need to remove both.
Does anybody have a link where I can read more about this "swollen"
battery
issue? Is that common from all batteries or just the cheap generic ones
sold through ebay?
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Tony Golden <mrgolden@...> wrote:
**
That's all I've ever seen it affect too, but it was worth looking into.
It really sounds like the contacts or circuit board are dirty, since
they
work
for a while before getting "stuck" again.
--- On Saturday, March 31, 2012 at 7:40 PM, frog_av wrote:
--- In Crestron@..., "Jonny" <ComeAlive@> wrote:
I thought the swollen battery only affected the 4 buttons across
the
bottom?
I took the battery out of mine and Velcro'd it to the base,
essentially making it a tabletop model. J
Shoot, sorry. Didn't read the original post closely enough. Yes, you
are
right. At least, that's all I've ever seen it affect.
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Re: D3 Pro 3.0.31 Scheduler Broken?
I was told that an option is to go back in my database. I was also told that engineering is aware of the issue and is working hard on a fix. anything else I was told I am not at liberty to share. besides, it has no bearing on the issue at hand. I just rolled back my database today, reloaded, and everything from the scheduler works as intended. :) tres From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of mehuneau Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:57 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: D3 Pro 3.0.31 Scheduler Broken? --- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "tres n3L" <tres@...> wrote:
no I was not told this.
Come on spit it out ! I hate when that kind of thing happen. Rollback to the previous database is the fix ?
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
The following SIMPL+ solution should work if the MMS-2 is putting out a zero length string.
STRING_INPUT InStr$[255];
DIGITAL_OUTPUT NullString;
CHANGE InStr$
{
if (!len(InStr$))
{
pulse(10, NullString);
}
}
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--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
Perhaps "zero-length string" is the more appropriate description. (\x00 would still be a 1-length string)
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ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of erikm_101
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
is not lack of data, also data? ergo data with no bytes?
--- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@> wrote:
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
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Sr. Systems Architect
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the
following work work.
1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would
convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You
would then look for an analog zero on the output.
2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input
buffer.
3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But
it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on
this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most
iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it
might work.
Steve
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Heather Baiman" <heather@> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
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Ha! Yeah we joke about how it's a prerequisite to be named josh to get a job here :)
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--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:
Lol. +1.
- Chip
--- In Crestron@..., "ChrisK" <chris@> wrote:
Joshua,
Great Website!!
Just a suggestion - You need to have Dave B. change his name to Joshua
Chris K.........:)
--- In Crestron@..., Josh Elek <jelek@> wrote:
It's not a marketing video, but we at LiquidPixel Group have designed a set of control interface simulations that some of our integrators show to potential clients when trying to close a sale. It's an app that runs on your iPad and functions like a typical Crestron UI. (They can see how easy it can be to route video, monitor security cameras and whatnot.) You don't need it connected to a processor or the internet. Just fire up an iPad and you can show simulated control interfaces to potential clients.
If you're at all interested, you can go here to sign up and get instruction on how to install the demo on your iPad.
-Joshua Elek
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
If the MMS-2 is truely putting out a \x00 instead of a \x01\x00, then that is a firmware bug in the MMS-2 IHMO. But I did not see that Heather specificially say that in her original email.
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--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
Perhaps "zero-length string" is the more appropriate description. (\x00 would still be a 1-length string)
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of erikm_101
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:55 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
is not lack of data, also data? ergo data with no bytes?
--- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@> wrote:
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
--
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Sr. Systems Architect
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the
following work work.
1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would
convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You
would then look for an analog zero on the output.
2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input
buffer.
3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But
it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on
this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most
iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it
might work.
Steve
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Heather Baiman" <heather@> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Perhaps "zero-length string" is the more appropriate description. (\x00 would still be a 1-length string)
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-----Original Message----- From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of erikm_101 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:55 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question is not lack of data, also data? ergo data with no bytes? --- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@...> wrote:
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
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Sr. Systems Architect
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the
following work work.
1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would
convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You
would then look for an analog zero on the output.
2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input
buffer.
3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But
it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on
this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most
iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it
might work.
Steve
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Heather Baiman" <heather@> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
------------------------------------
*
****
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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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--- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@...> wrote:
no I was not told this.
Come on spit it out ! I hate when that kind of thing happen. Rollback to the previous database is the fix ?
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
is not lack of data, also data? ergo data with no bytes?
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--- In Crestron@..., "tres n3L" <tres@...> wrote:
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of highfidelityinc
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the
following work work.
1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would
convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You
would then look for an analog zero on the output.
2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input
buffer.
3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But
it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on
this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most
iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it
might work.
Steve
--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Heather Baiman" <heather@> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
------------------------------------
*
****
Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Re: Crestron Friendly *NEW* Garage Door Openers
I have a Chamberlain WD822K that was pretty easily hacked to give me adequate control and feedback. Just parallel the hard button with a relay for open/close/stop/reverse. Under the cover there are two contacts that provide fully open and fully closed feedback.
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Any suggestions on a new install the friendliest automation-ready garage
door opener? Looking for the kind that operates on simple contact closure
switch. Separate magnetic sensors will be used for door state (up/down).
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
The Mirage Module isn't locked so you can go in and root around to see what it's doing and if you want change it you can.
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--- In Crestron@..., "Heather Baiman" <heather@...> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@...
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
imho, there is no such thing as an "empty" string. all data has bytes.
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:32 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question
Steve,
\x00 is not the same as an empty string -- it's a string with one byte with
all bits set to 0.
(it's a case of "something" being "nothing" or "nothing" being "something"
:) )
As much as it strikes me as dirty-esque I think the best bet is a S+ module
that looks at the length of the string (e.g. IF(LEN(input$) = 0) )
Lincoln
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
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-----Original Message----- From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of highfidelityinc Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 4:05 PM To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Crestron] Re: Dumb Serial Empty String Question Let me preface this by saying I have not tried this. But I think the following work work. 1) An Serial to Analog symbol (OP103) with a parameter of 0200h. That would convert every serial character to a sequence of analog equivalents. You would then look for an analog zero on the output. 2) SIMPL+ solution. You would look for the \x00 character in the input buffer. 3) An ASCII Serial Decoder symbol (ASCIIDecode). It has an \x00 output. But it would require an SMV to hit the dial input in order to get a pulse on this output. Per help, you need a SRAM symbol too. This would be the most iffy solution as it is meant to interface to an ASCII Keypad symbol. But it might work. Steve --- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Heather Baiman" <heather@...> wrote:
I feel like I should and or do know this yet can't get this right.
I'm looking to detect an empty string from a MMS-2 via a SIO. Double
quotes doesn't work, neither does \x00.
In particular, I am looking for when the first browse line of text
coming from an MMS-2 is blank/empty. I want to enact other code when I
detect this.
When using their Rhapsody interface, if you employ a layout on a large
touchpanel that is able to show the transports, current song meta data
and the browse list full time (instead of subpaging it to death) after
making a final selection on the Rhapsody source, the MMS clears the
strings on the browse list. In my opinion, it looks like it did
something wrong as opposed to just keeping you on the browse page you
were actually browsing. I can make it repopulate by pressing the 'back'
button when I see the empty string come in.
How do I detect the emptiness?
Heather Baiman
heather@...
Electronic Environments
247 W. 37th
New York, NY 10018
Phone (212)997-1110
Fax (212)997-0474
------------------------------------ * **** Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. * ****Yahoo! Groups Links
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